BOWERMAN TC 5K Team Time Trial - Tuesday, June 30 at Portland’s Jesuit HS

Karissa Schweizer is going to do turn heads in the 5000 next year, IMO.

Where is the 5 year defending olympic champ Centrowitz? On that note where is Kincaid

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Jgt11 wrote:
Where is the 5 year defending olympic champ Centrowitz? On that note where is Kincaid

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TheseKidsUnderstand wrote:
This race didn't do anything to bring interest among the public. BTC is killing this sport.

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roller coaster wrote:

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Jgt11 wrote:
Where is the 5 year defending olympic champ Centrowitz? On that note where is Kincaid

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Injured

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jumping for joy wrote:

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Dunder The Covers wrote:
How about the RACE? Some really impressive stuff

McGorty makes a big jump into the Pro world with a competitive 5000m PR and jumps to 19th all time for USA.

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Fisher too. 18 second PR. Shows what both McGorty, Fisher and Cranny can do when focused trading and sleep are their study versus a heavy load of classes at Stanford.

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highhoppingworm wrote:
On the flip side, not broadcasting a high quality TT like this during a time when running fans are craving things to get excited about is just idiotic. BTC is free to do whatever they want but I suspect they turned a bunch of people who were previously supporters into neutral observers or even detractors. I don’t think the above is really debatable it just is what and it is and seems like it was easily avoidable.

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jumping for joy wrote:

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Dunder The Covers wrote:
How about the RACE? Some really impressive stuff

McGorty makes a big jump into the Pro world with a competitive 5000m PR and jumps to 19th all time for USA.

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Fisher too. 18 second PR. Shows what both McGorty, Fisher and Cranny can do when focused trading and sleep are their study versus a heavy load of classes at Stanford.

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This so much. I've stated many times how demanding the workload at Stanford (or MIT, Harvard, etc) is compared to a regular D1 colleges. People didn't wanna listen to me and still wanted Tuohy, Ewert, etc. to go to Stanford. Now we have proof that they made the right choice - get a similar level of education at a much less (academically) competitive/demanding school, and really be able to get their running to the next level.

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birdbeard wrote:

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roller coaster wrote:

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Jgt11 wrote:
Where is the 5 year defending olympic champ Centrowitz? On that note where is Kincaid

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Injured

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both of them?

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I think he is admitting that he is an idiot who is infatuated with Tuohy. He is trying to justify her decision but did the opposite. How many NC State grads ran fast in the race last night as compared to Stanford grads? People just don't realize that it is much harder to get into Stanford but once you are in, you don't fall behind or receive bad grades. Any sign of problems and you are assigned a tutor and the professors provide extra assistance. Attend a regular state school and you are taught the same material but you are expected to pass the classes on your own. If not. You disappear and somebody else takes your place. My neighbor played basketball at Stanford a few years ago and graduated with a 3.75 GPA even though he was on the road constantly. He said that it was much easier than high school. He was even at the very low end of admitted students in terms of ACT and grades.

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Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Don't beat your head against the wall. If I have learned anything on LRC, it is that runners and track fans are NOT a special breed. They may be skinnier but, they are the same entitled louts as the rabid goofball football or baseball fan that calls the local sports radio station to sputter their hot uninformed takes about what is wrong with the local team. Most of the comments on this thread seem to be one guy with multiple handles screaming about how he is supposed to be catered do or the sport will die.

Real world be damned! I don't care what the venue owner wants or the team sponsor says. I want my bread and circuses right know or I'll stomp my feet...or hold my breath...or not buy any Vaporflys...or, you'll see!!! If BTC and Jesuit allowed this to be livestreamed on Flotrack or Runner's Space, the same dude would be whining about paywalls or bad announcing or lack of 4K HD video or this not being in primetime pre-empting "The Bachelor" as proof of "killing the sport".

Maybe "Endurance Karen" should call Nike this morning and demand to speak with Jerry Schumacher's manager?

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That’s funny coming from the guy who has railed Hunter/Tinman for too much self promoting.

They could have used our track for free and we would have streamed it for them. This was obviously a bad decision on their part because they didn't want to be shamed by their liberal friends and fans for not enough social distancing when they were hugging and slapping butts.

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Runners are scared of the spotlight wrote:
Oh please. If they wanted to film it they could have found a way to film it, and if Jesuit would not allow filming, find another track. I live in a small town, and there are two tracks here, I'm sure there are plenty of other tracks BTC could have used that are within driving distance. Heck, you have high school kids live streaming time trials.

You cannot argue with BTC's running results, but you can argue with their lack of creativity when it comes to engaging with fans and promoting races. No one ever knows their racing schedule, and then they just show up at some small meet (BU Last Chance) and do an intra squad meet, or hold an unadvertised time trial. If competitive track is ever going to grow beyond a niche sport, its stars need to start interacting with fans on a legitimate basis including what their race schedule is and increasing access to viewing those races in real time and after competition streaming. There's a lot of money out there in the running market, and if athletes want more financial parity, groups like BTC, Brooks Beasts, HOKA NAZ Elite, BAA, NB Boston, Team Boss, Reebok Boston, Hansons, etc. need to start increasing their brand awareness.

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Downer it goes wrote:
They could have used our track for free and we would have streamed it for them.

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cheesewiz wrote:
Do you trust random people on the internet telling you there won’t be video? Or do you trust the athletes running the races telling you there will be video?

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Is that why you lied about what we told you?

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roller coaster wrote:

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birdbeard wrote:

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roller coaster wrote:

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Jgt11 wrote:
Where is the 5 year defending olympic champ Centrowitz? On that note where is Kincaid

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Injured

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both of them?

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Obviously.

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I found a photo of the "race" for you minions

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/13jqHZEVS1NJQCNpFLFYn9JCHl3klL2rvBwZ-0-vpXjI6bFds1RukCxWsadqb7QSzSz5AR2U8KIr0oljAwsZ=w1500