Check out what he did for Evan Schwartz @evanmschwartz on his Instagram story.
May 28th: He ran a 4:53 mile time trial
ONLY after a month with tinman, he ran 15:46 for a 5k and closed in 4:50!
The proof is in the pudding.
Check out what he did for Evan Schwartz @evanmschwartz on his Instagram story.
May 28th: He ran a 4:53 mile time trial
ONLY after a month with tinman, he ran 15:46 for a 5k and closed in 4:50!
The proof is in the pudding.
Lol!!!!!
Hey there, Jan!
The Proof wrote:
Check out what he did for Evan Schwartz @evanmschwartz on his Instagram story.
May 28th: He ran a 4:53 mile time trial
ONLY after a month with tinman, he ran 15:46 for a 5k and closed in 4:50!
The proof is in the pudding.
LOL! I have run quicker in the past (2017-2018). Road 5k PR just under 14:30 in my peak. I moved to Boulder in 2018 and have had a pretty difficult time adjusting to training and racing at altitude. The main thing was consistency and focus in my training. I also thought just pounding 100+ mile weeks and doing hard long runs would get me in the best shape but that was not the case...
I paced Houston Half in 69:30ish then was hurt for the 6 weeks leading up to the Trials, then took two weeks off after. I've been working with Tinman since the end of May and have definitely seen rapid success getting back into things.
I actually did a few more time trials than the 4:53 a month ago. On April 5 I did a 1 Mile TT in 5:12, then 2 Mile TT in 10:14 on May 1. All TTs for sure 100% all out.
For me the training is accomplishable and focused on the task at hand as well as longer term goals. I train by Power as well, and Tinman has embraced that for me. Looking forward to getting back in faster shape hopefully soon...
- Evan
what is Tinmans training actually like?
I won't give the secret sauce, but the general structure for me right now is
M - Easy with strides
T - Workout (fartlek or threshold repeats)
W - Easy
R - Easy with strides
F - Workout (fartlek or threshold repeats)
S - Easy
S - Long
Nothing complicated or unheard of, but there is a lot more that goes into a successful training schedule than just the training. I've had the experience being around a lot of coaches in my career so far, and being able to work with Tom gives a lot of insights and benefits that people who aren't working with him tend to miss.
bABUSKA wrote:
What you have missed so far is working with the man close to th Holy Grale of tunning, COACH J.S
www.coachjs.se
I'll have to look up th Holy Grale of tunning
Jan is evolving his scheme, now he starts a thread about Tinman just to get his free advertising done, it is kind of cute and disgusting.
Disgusting fits best.
Evan,
Your Instagram post was somewhat disingenuous. People who don’t know you and your PRs are going to think that Tinman can have them running a 5k at 97% of their mile PR with one month.
Saying “that’s what a month of Tinman training will do!” Should instead be: “I was able to run within 1 minute of my 5k PR after one month of this training!”
Also please address this: did you tell the kind hobby joggers at CRC that you NEVER should rest for more than 90 seconds in ANY workout? They all seem to take this as some sort of gospel.
Thank you!
Columbus Sub 14er wrote:
Evan,
Your Instagram post was somewhat disingenuous. People who don’t know you and your PRs are going to think that Tinman can have them running a 5k at 97% of their mile PR with one month.
Saying “that’s what a month of Tinman training will do!” Should instead be: “I was able to run within 1 minute of my 5k PR after one month of this training!”
Also please address this: did you tell the kind hobby joggers at CRC that you NEVER should rest for more than 90 seconds in ANY workout? They all seem to take this as some sort of gospel.
Thank you!
I do think I’ve made some good improvements over the past month, but I did make the post on my IG story, which I do assume most people know a little bit about my running past if they saw it.
While I have run faster times in the past, I haven’t been anywhere close to that since the end of 2017 where I had a miracle race at CIM. Ever since then I’ve really struggled getting back into shape and seeing consistent improvement.
This TT was certainly a positive moment for me, and the progression I’ve made back to being semi well trained has been very encouraging for me, which was my main point of posting on my social media.
Regarding the 90s comment, I can’t ever recall saying that or believing that as a training tenant. When I was working with J.J. We did a lot of stuff with very short rest to work ratios (400s with 100 jog, 1k-1mi with 1:00 jog, 3x3mi with 2:00 jog) but I don’t know of myself or anyone else on CRC elite who trained like that or advocated for it.
I could reasonably think a tangent that might’ve spun off of a similar thought would be advocating for cruise intervals or something similar like a broken tempo. It’s possible I might have said something similar to “if you’re doing cruise intervals or a broken tempo and you have to take more than 90s recovery to actually recover, then you are running the workout too fast.” But yeah I have no clue where that thought would’ve come from otherwise.
forcerunner wrote:
I won't give the secret sauce, but the general structure for me right now is
M - Easy with strides
T - Workout (fartlek or threshold repeats)
W - Easy
R - Easy with strides
F - Workout (fartlek or threshold repeats)
S - Easy
S - Long
Nothing complicated or unheard of, but there is a lot more that goes into a successful training schedule than just the training. I've had the experience being around a lot of coaches in my career so far, and being able to work with Tom gives a lot of insights and benefits that people who aren't working with him tend to miss.
You can keep the "secret sauce" to you, every serious runner here knows that there's no Secret.
Unless it's that one secret that Gebrselassie talked about: To do training seriously.