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I hate to sound like an echo chamber for Phil, but yeah that’s a ridiculous mileage for a new runner.
I’m surprised you didn’t get hurt. To be a teenager again; ah I’m jealous.
I really think you haven’t let your body adapt to the stress because you keep re stressing it.
should i try 40 mpw and short tempos
1.5 years is not enough time.
Give us your training schedule and personal best times. There are coaches here who can help you.
The Predictor wrote:
i threw in two or three 80 mile weeks. i neglected fast stuff which i think was a big mistake.
That seems like it will raise the risk of injury.
You have to give enough time for recovery, or else your body will go into a "catabolic" state. This could explain the periods of regression.
What were your times in the races?
my first season i went from high 19s to 17:40 5k. then in track i went sub 5.
next season i barely broke 17 and had shaky performances the rest of the year and never got close to sub 17 again. i had two 17:20s.
since then, my best 1600 has basically been the same, as well as my 5k. my workouts havent indicated much better than 17:00.
can training under a catabolic state eventually make one faster if they eat and rest enough?
I have no idea. I wasn’t very fast in HS, but I managed to run sub 4:50 1600m off of 40-45 mile weeks. Maybe a few at 50.
I gradually progressed to that mileage with consistent running my sophomore year. I am very sure I would have gotten hurt and or burnt out doing what you are doing now. Most of my runs were easy with 1-2 workouts / races.
Are the bulk of your miles truly easy? Slow down if they aren’t. Easy runs, long run, tempo, hard run / race is plenty for one week.
There are coaches on this site much more well versed than I. Honestly you might just want to order the book Jack Daniels running formula and use his advice. He discusses intensity and progression of miles much better than I can. All of my advice is just my own experience.
Good luck, I hope you don’t quit. I’m sure you could be much faster given your body’s resilience to high mileage and sub 17 5k.
A buddy of mine ran 17:2x xc his junior year and then ran a sub 10 3200 his senior year. I don’t see why you couldn’t attain that with proper training.
Your progression isn't bad at all. I actually expected it to be something like 18-mins 5k.
With several years of consistent training, I wouldn't be surprised you could break 15 some day. Just as many here have already said, be patient, gradually increase your mileage and listen to your body.
thank you george. and to address the runningnoob, the bulk of my mileage was probably too much easy going into my sophomore year. in hindsight i think i would have been better off on lower miles and with some fast stuff. this summer i kept the miles and do 2-3 workouts and a long run. what i'll probably do is drop the mileage and workouts for a week or two and then return to training with reduced mileage.
https://www.wikihow.com/Train-for-Cross-Country-RunningThe Predictor wrote:
in hindsight i think i would have been better off on lower miles and with some fast stuff.
It says here that you should add tempo runs.
Also says mileage increase should be 10% at a time for one run per week.
The theory is that gains are made during the recovery phase, but if you overwhelm it, then that could lead to injury. I think quality is better than quantity, so your idea of adding speedwork sounds right.
Listen to your body and good luck next season.
For motivation, you can take a look at this college athlete's journey. There are 5 parts to the series.
i watched it, im subbed. cheers
What you need is a training system that compresses the 3 most important factors for your race results. Stop thinking in terms of mileage. Just do what will make you improve.
The 3 main factors for middle/longdistance running race results are, maxVO2-pace, lactate threshold pace and what I use to call the aerobic power pace ( Long Steady Distance ) .
Can you mix these 3 factors in a smart way in your training week you will be guaranteed to improve. Good luck!
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