Do you think things will really change.

[quote]see...... wrote:

Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. 

Nonsense.

Cops kill > 1,000 people in America every year.

Generally, no more than 100 - 150 cops are killed each year.

There is no way what you say is true.

Yes. One big change will be in the dismantling of police departments , which will lead to more crime, especially in predominantly black neighborhoods. Black neighborhoods have disproportionately high amounts of 911 and emergency calls for law enforcement, and there will be little or no response to those calls if the dismantling of police departments is done (as it appears likely now). That will have a serious impact on instances where police presence is needed quickly, like 911 calls for domestic abuse situations (black neighborhoods also have disproportionately high domestic abuse violence). So that will be a change. Some would call it a negative change.

Bumble lipple wrote:

Yes. One big change will be in the dismantling of police departments , which will lead to more crime, especially in predominantly black neighborhoods. Black neighborhoods have disproportionately high amounts of 911 and emergency calls for law enforcement, and there will be little or no response to those calls if the dismantling of police departments is done (as it appears likely now). That will have a serious impact on instances where police presence is needed quickly, like 911 calls for domestic abuse situations (black neighborhoods also have disproportionately high domestic abuse violence). So that will be a change. Some would call it a negative change.

Nope, they're over-policed and as a result find themselves in trouble with the law. Endless cycle.

Imposing a 23.5 hour curfew in black neighborhoods would reduce street crime statistics. This doesn't make it a solution.

Build communities not prisons.

Change is Inevitable and is almost always for the better, I predict in 5 years The USA will have less Crime than any other Nation, Iceland, Japan etc. The aftermath of these protests will be Racial Harmony in the USA.

appleswan wrote:

Bumble lipple wrote:

Yes. One big change will be in the dismantling of police departments , which will lead to more crime, especially in predominantly black neighborhoods. Black neighborhoods have disproportionately high amounts of 911 and emergency calls for law enforcement, and there will be little or no response to those calls if the dismantling of police departments is done (as it appears likely now). That will have a serious impact on instances where police presence is needed quickly, like 911 calls for domestic abuse situations (black neighborhoods also have disproportionately high domestic abuse violence). So that will be a change. Some would call it a negative change.

Nope, they're over-policed and as a result find themselves in trouble with the law. Endless cycle.

Imposing a 23.5 hour curfew in black neighborhoods would reduce street crime statistics. This doesn't make it a solution.

Build communities not prisons.

There once was time - approximately two weeks ago, in fact - that one primary complaint black people had was that there was not enough police presence in black neighborhoods. That has changed.

Anyway, I think what you are really saying is either (1) most of the 911 calls from black neighborhoods are fake or staged calls (maybe from white supremacists?) or (2) the police should filter the 911 calls from black neighborhoods so that they only respond to ones that are guaranteed to be someone in danger.

douglas burke wrote:

Change is Inevitable and is almost always for the better, I predict in 5 years The USA will have less Crime than any other Nation, Iceland, Japan etc. The aftermath of these protests will be Racial Harmony in the USA.

When you remove the top 20 most violent zip codes in America, the USA is on par with any other Western country and, consider that, this is while we have a wild proliferation of rifles and handguns in circulation - when you take that into account: wow!

The vast majority of Americans live with minimal crimes and in relative harmony already.

We could do better but we're learning all the wrong lessons from these looting/BLM/white privilege/racism voices that are being amplified right now. We'll be in a better place in 5 years but it wouldn't be because of what your seeing on the streets today, it will be in spite of it.

Bumble lipple wrote:

appleswan wrote:

Nope, they're over-policed and as a result find themselves in trouble with the law. Endless cycle.

Imposing a 23.5 hour curfew in black neighborhoods would reduce street crime statistics. This doesn't make it a solution.

Build communities not prisons.

There once was time - approximately two weeks ago, in fact - that one primary complaint black people had was that there was not enough police presence in black neighborhoods. That has changed.

Anyway, I think what you are really saying is either (1) most of the 911 calls from black neighborhoods are fake or staged calls (maybe from white supremacists?) or (2) the police should filter the 911 calls from black neighborhoods so that they only respond to ones that are guaranteed to be someone in danger.

I live in a white neighborhood. We are not without crime yet I've never seen a police officer in the area. Minor crime goes unnoticed. Middle class drug use within the home is unpunished.

Yet go to black neighborhood and officers are everywhere. Every minor infringement of the law is punished, setting many on a course to be disadvantaged in future. Personal searches are frequent. Street crime such as dealing is heavily penalised.

Build better black neighborhoods. Listen to what these protesters are saying.

Do the other western countries also get to remove their top 20 most violent zip/area codes?

I thought guns make Americans safer?

the media is bent on dividing people in order to actually win, and not steal, a vote.

Noyankee wrote:

the media is bent on dividing people in order to actually win, and not steal, a vote.

The self righteous media is adding fuel to the fire. They are speading hate messages. Hate the cops, hate President Trump. etc. Disorderly conduct is now ok.

The media is part of the problem.

what what what wrote:

krispy kremlin._._._._ wrote:

When you remove the top 20 most violent zip codes in America, the USA is on par with any other Western country and, consider that, this is while we have a wild proliferation of rifles and handguns in circulation - when you take that into account: wow!

The vast majority of Americans live with minimal crimes and in relative harmony already.

We could do better but we're learning all the wrong lessons from these looting/BLM/white privilege/racism voices that are being amplified right now. We'll be in a better place in 5 years but it wouldn't be because of what your seeing on the streets today, it will be in spite of it.

Do the other western countries also get to remove their top 20 most violent zip/area codes?

I thought guns make Americans safer?

Not each individual country but the continent as a whole, sure, that would be interesting.

Not sure Europe has "zip codes" or granular statistics but the comparison would be interesting.

But again, America is absolutely full of guns and, by far, the vast majority of Americans leave in abject peace and harmony.

krispy kremlin._._._._ wrote:

what what what wrote:

Do the other western countries also get to remove their top 20 most violent zip/area codes?

I thought guns make Americans safer?

Not each individual country but the continent as a whole, sure, that would be interesting.

Not sure Europe has "zip codes" or granular statistics but the comparison would be interesting.

But again, America is absolutely full of guns and, by far, the vast majority of Americans leave in abject peace and harmony.

It’s has area and postal codes.

Lambo Owner wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

the media is bent on dividing people in order to actually win, and not steal, a vote.

The self righteous media is adding fuel to the fire. They are speading hate messages. Hate the cops, hate President Trump. etc. Disorderly conduct is now ok.

The media is part of the problem.

You poor thing, how do you get up in the morning? Genuinely the whole world is against you and President Trump.