Gwen Berry says she lost $50,000 in sponsorships after raising her fist at Pan Ams. What sponsorships do throwers have?

Was the $50,000 from multi-year contracts?

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2018/09/pro-runners-salaries-much-professional-runners-make-unveil-one-sports-biggest-secrets/

Centrowitz was making $650,000 according to estimates, so it kinda makes sense that a gold-medal winner would reach $50,000 in a smaller sport.

when you are getting paid by a company you need to remember you represent a brand. not saying it is right but it is a business.

I find it sad that a brand would back away from someone making a statement about racism. Shows how racist the society is. She is being punished for showing bravery.

Possibly, if every sponsor that demonstrated an interest came through with a hard offer. In any case, Berry is old enough to know corporations don't like controversy... she might have heard of guys named Kaepernick, Woods, Lochte. I salute her following her conscience but I have to pass on the whining over what is clearly the anticipated reaction from a sponsor.

BigFan wrote:

Possibly, if every sponsor that demonstrated an interest came through with a hard offer. In any case, Berry is old enough to know corporations don't like controversy... she might have heard of guys named Kaepernick, Woods, Lochte. I salute her following her conscience but I have to pass on the whining over what is clearly the anticipated reaction from a sponsor.

How come when a woman makes a statement of fact about something negative, people on letsrun always seem to call it "whining"? The same thing happened when Molly Huddle simply stated something about sitting in a middle plane seat. Suddenly they're "whining".

Also, if you would have read the article you would have seen it said:

"Berry knew there would be ramifications and that she would probably be vilified by many in her home country... ...the same way NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick was vilified and labelled unpatriotic for kneeling during the American anthem in protest of police brutality.

"Martin Luther King was assassinated for going against the system. Kaepernick's career was assassinated. His character was assassinated. What do we do to a system that assassinates our peaceful people?" Berry asked."

But thanks for your hot take.

Beep Beep wrote:

Was she raising her fist for the victims of this past weekends killings?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weekend-shootings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1

Keep our name out your mouth and we can keep it the same.

People love to quote Chicago stats from the outside but the problems we have are systemic ones. Race/gender/class/labor are all related. Chicago could fix its problems any time it wants to but there are enough people focused solely on protecting their own wealth.

ChicagoTeacher45234523 wrote:

Beep Beep wrote:

Was she raising her fist for the victims of this past weekends killings?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weekend-shootings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1

Keep our name out your mouth and we can keep it the same.

People love to quote Chicago stats from the outside but the problems we have are systemic ones. Race/gender/class/labor are all related. Chicago could fix its problems any time it wants to but there are enough people focused solely on protecting their own wealth.

Correct... they are systemic. The Democrat SYSTEM has destroyed black Chicago, and black America.

You don't know me... you don't know where I'm from. You're just spouting off because you know what I'm posting is true.

So, if "Chicago can fix its own problems", what is it waiting on? How many black Americans have to die before it 'fixes itself'? What you just said is, you're fine with black Americans killing other black Americans.

How come when people make note of black Americans assassinating other black Americans, they're told to shut up. It's not relevant, etc.

It's interesting how many in white America are trying to bring light to the epidemic of murder within black America, but they're called racist. People telling other people to stop killing each other, is white supremacy and racist.

This sh-t is mind-boggling and completely bizarre.

Beep Beep wrote:

How come when people make note of black Americans assassinating other black Americans, they're told to shut up. It's not relevant, etc.

It's interesting how many in white America are trying to bring light to the epidemic of murder within black America, but they're called racist. People telling other people to stop killing each other, is white supremacy and racist.

This sh-t is mind-boggling and completely bizarre.

Of those black people who kill other black people, how many are video taped doing it, identified, and then not charged and convicted of murder? If every time a cop murdered a black dude, he got 20 years in jail, nobody would be protesting.

donairs wrote:

I find it sad that a brand would back away from someone making a statement about racism. Shows how racist the society is. She is being punished for showing bravery.

I wouldn’t employ an athlete who disrespected their country’s national anthem in public like that. Sorry she lost sponsorships, but companies have a right to decide who they want hawking their products.

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

Beep Beep wrote:

How come when people make note of black Americans assassinating other black Americans, they're told to shut up. It's not relevant, etc.

It's interesting how many in white America are trying to bring light to the epidemic of murder within black America, but they're called racist. People telling other people to stop killing each other, is white supremacy and racist.

This sh-t is mind-boggling and completely bizarre.

Of those black people who kill other black people, how many are video taped doing it, identified, and then not charged and convicted of murder? If every time a cop murdered a black dude, he got 20 years in jail, nobody would be protesting.

I understand what you're saying, but the reality is, a lot of cops have been to trial and for whatever reason, walked. Are all of those jurors racist? Most likely not.

A couple of high profile examples... Michael Brown reached in the police car in force, and got himself killed. Sad, but that's reality.

Trayvon Martin doubled back on Zimmerman, waited for him, jumped him from behind, and got himself killed. Sad, but that's reality.

Again, the BLM movement against police brutality, etc is understandable. But the fact that in one city alone, about 700 black men, women, and children are murdered every year by another black individual, has to be acknowledged, as well.

The entire country is behind George Floyd and his family. Nobody knows the names of those murdered in Chicago this past weekend.

On a further point, Floyd was committing a crime. Should he have died? Absolutely not. What about the five year old girl that was killed? Was she committing a crime? The obvious answer is no.

BigFan wrote:

Possibly, if every sponsor that demonstrated an interest came through with a hard offer. In any case, Berry is old enough to know corporations don't like controversy... she might have heard of guys named Kaepernick, Woods, Lochte. I salute her following her conscience but I have to pass on the whining over what is clearly the anticipated reaction from a sponsor.

Kaepernick stood for what’s right, and he’s a hero. Berry stood for what’s right, and she loses sponsorships and is told she’s “whining” and “unpatriotic”. This isn’t just racism- it’s discrimination and misogyny.

Beep Beep wrote:

Was she raising her fist for the victims of this past weekends killings?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2020/6/1/21275944/chicago-weekend-shootings-most-violent-weekend-2020-may-29-june-1

Something tells me, no she wasn't.

This was a pretty stupid stunt that only hurt her and did nothing to help others. Hammer throw is probably the most obscure event in track and field except maybe the Steeplechase. Any money she can produce is going to be extremely valuable for her, especially since she isn't someone ever going to challenge for a global medal.

$50,000 can pay for training and travel costs for several years. Absolutely nobody was talking about her gesture during the Pan Am games and it only gains slight attention now because the huge dollar sign in the headline. Her gesture isn't going to embolden black rights as, lets be honest, she is a nobody as far as professional athletes go. Who cares if some B tier athlete from a D tier event makes a political statement. She would've been better off collecting the money and building a better life for herself.

Beep Beep wrote:

I understand what you're saying, but the reality is, a lot of cops have been to trial and for whatever reason, walked. Are all of those jurors racist? Most likely not.

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Of course all the Jurors aren't racist. You only need a couple to get a deadlocked jury.

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

Beep Beep wrote:

I understand what you're saying, but the reality is, a lot of cops have been to trial and for whatever reason, walked. Are all of those jurors racist? Most likely not.

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Of course all the Jurors aren't racist. You only need a couple to get a deadlocked jury.

In 2015, during the Obama Admin., 38 unarmed black males were killed by Police. In 2019, during the Trump Admin., 10 unarmed black males were killed. In 8/10, the Police were assaulted beforehand.

***10*** and the liberal media is telling us there is genocide going on.

Beep Beep wrote:

dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:

Of course all the Jurors aren't racist. You only need a couple to get a deadlocked jury.

In 2015, during the Obama Admin., 38 unarmed black males were killed by Police. In 2019, during the Trump Admin., 10 unarmed black males were killed. In 8/10, the Police were assaulted beforehand.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

***10*** and the liberal media is telling us there is genocide going on.

It is unclear how many shootings by police involved unarmed victims, but it would not be surprising if it is over 500/year these days. There is a reason "throwdown" is in the standard US police dictionary, along with "testilying" and "blue wall of silence". Most shootings by police are never investigated by a competent investigation team; instead, almost all are investigated by agencies very closely affiliated by the killers, or directed by prosecutors that are closely affiliated with them.

50k For a Professional Athlete is like 5 Cents for someone making 75 Thousand a Year. President Trump does not even Accept His Salary as President (I think it is about 450k) and most Professional Athletes have a lot more Money than Trump has, That is why so many Athletes turn Pro Early examples Grant Holloway and Shacarri Richardson last year or going back Jordan Hasay or Galen Rupp I guarantee all of these would consider 450k Irrelevant/a Tiny amount etc. , When someone asked Babe Ruth how he felt about making more money than the President, Ruth said well I probably had a better year than The President has, Athletes ALWAYS make more than Presidents, even though Trump Brags about being Rich, compared to Pro Athletes he would be considered Poverty Stricken.

curranrun wrote:

when you are getting paid by a company you need to remember you represent a brand. not saying it is right but it is a business.

Yep, truth and justice is not a popular look for a brand