Sweden had it right all along

Gah, this is stupid. We're months into this, and you're still peddling the same stupid "lockdown bad media bad ha ha" crap. The scientists have learned a lot more about what activities are high risk and what are lower risk. No one's looking at Sweden as a model anymore, not even the Swedes. They made a bet, and got it wrong. So grow up and try to talk about disease and economics like an adult.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

https://californiaglobe.com/section-2/stanford-doctor-has-nothing-but-bad-news-for-politicians-about-c-virus/

Another article about the opinions of an extremely well respected doctor from Stanford. You can also listen to his interview if interested .

The science denying from the stay-at-home cultists is really breathtaking.

Ah yes, the guy who took money from the JetBlue founder and published an error-ridden report to justify starting (among other things) air travel again.

The reputation of those Stanford dudes has taken a serious hit. I'd advise you to keep up.

real info wrote:

Gah, this is stupid. We're months into this, and you're still peddling the same stupid "lockdown bad media bad ha ha" crap. The scientists have learned a lot more about what activities are high risk and what are lower risk. No one's looking at Sweden as a model anymore, not even the Swedes. They made a bet, and got it wrong. So grow up and try to talk about disease and economics like an adult.

The cities that are in the worst shape (New York) are the ones with the strictest lockdowns. The states with the least amount of lockdown restrictions (Texas, Georgia and Florida) all have a lower death count.

Erm... wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

They have lots of public transportation in Oslo, Helsinki and Copenhagen.

Not on the same scale they don't. Stockholm has over 355 million rides a year, Copenhagen 78, Oslo 109, Helsink 67, and typically contained spaces are exponential in terms of how many can be infected.

Or airport passengers, 200 million vs 30 million etc. It's not on a comparable scale.

Sweden should be spiralling exponentially out of control according to all the doomsayers, but it plainly isn't.

LOL,

They are among worst hit countries on the planet but apparently the goal posts have been shifted again. Where to next?

Harambe wrote:

Erm... wrote:

Not on the same scale they don't. Stockholm has over 355 million rides a year, Copenhagen 78, Oslo 109, Helsink 67, and typically contained spaces are exponential in terms of how many can be infected.

Or airport passengers, 200 million vs 30 million etc. It's not on a comparable scale.

Sweden should be spiralling exponentially out of control according to all the doomsayers, but it plainly isn't.

LOL,

They are among worst hit countries on the planet but apparently the goal posts have been shifted again. Where to next?

LOL Italy and Spain both were hit worse than Sweden and had much more draconian lockdowns.

INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY - WOW!! What a concept. Taking accountability for your own choices and actions. To many sheeple in the USA who blindly follow whomever is yapping the loudest.

real info wrote:

Gah, this is stupid. We're months into this, and you're still peddling the same stupid "lockdown bad media bad ha ha" crap. The scientists have learned a lot more about what activities are high risk and what are lower risk. No one's looking at Sweden as a model anymore, not even the Swedes. They made a bet, and got it wrong. So grow up and try to talk about disease and economics like an adult.

Well.......we are probably not exposed to a "second wave" as much as our neighbours Norway,Denmark and Finland. Today we can read Norway and Finland are very frightened of a possible second wave. What will they do if it happens? Lockdown again ? We here in Sweden will probably have a mild second wave and still keep on as now until a good vaccin will come eventually.Many European countries open up more and more now. There is a light in the tunnel.....

- COACH J.S , Swedish running world class online pro coach -

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Harambe wrote:

LOL,

They are among worst hit countries on the planet but apparently the goal posts have been shifted again. Where to next?

LOL Italy and Spain both were hit worse than Sweden and had much more draconian lockdowns.

So again, Sweden is now approaching Spain and Italy's death rates. Among the worst in the world.

Still suffering an economic crisis.

Yet, they have much lower population density so should have been able to control it easier by your logic...

But they didn't... wonder why? Gonna change your metrics again? I'll wait.

That some people are actually trying to tout Sweden as a success story is baffling in its idiocy.

7.3% percent seroprevalence in late April.

Not much different from other hotspots.

So much for that idea:

We know what the propaganda is.

Let's take a look a year or two from now.

Then we will see whose strategy worked

Maybe the Swedes did it right. But you can't compare the Swedes with uneducated Americans who listen to Fox News.

Swedes did the right thing, although their death quota is 409 death per 1 million people.

The US has 303.

It’s incredible how the Democratic Party in the United States has just thrown science to the trash heap during this ‘crisis’ and replaced it with a quasi religion based on fear.

[quote]Harambe wrote:

So again, Sweden is now approaching Spain and Italy's death rates. Among the worst in the world.

Not so.

As of May 25, Sweden fatality rate is 6th in Europe.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Wasa bread wrote:

Maybe the Swedes did it right. But you can't compare the Swedes with uneducated Americans who listen to Fox News.

Swedes did the right thing, although their death quota is 409 death per 1 million people.

The US has 303.

And Belarus has a death rate of 22 per million.

believe in science wrote:

It’s incredible how the Democratic Party in the United States has just thrown science to the trash heap during this ‘crisis’ and replaced it with a quasi religion based on fear.

Progressive-ism is a quasi religion, everything is burned at the alter, starting with critical thinking.

Stockholm's metro has 4-5 times the ridership of Copenhagen and Helsinki.

Nevertheless, Stockholm was in a similar situation to the other Scandinavian countries early on, and then far outdistanced them in per capita deaths, 4:1, 7:1, through its bad policies.

That should read: Sweden was in a ...