Stupidest Workout Ever? - 4x 1600m w/2:30 recovery - 4:52, 4:55, 4:55, 4:57

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

7empest wrote:

Oh Please stop!!!!!! There are at least 10 girls or more who could do this workout. Their coaches just would not have them do it. If they were going to run this hard they would just do a time trial.

Yes. No point in being a "workout hero(ine)". Now she and her coach also set the expectations super high, imagine in the next race she runs 16:00 and not 15:30. They will be like - "what the hell went wrong? We were in such great shape back then!"

She also wasn't smiling during the workout. Look at Starliper's workout Wednesday - she was having so much fun with being filmed and everything, that's what's gonna keep a runner to the sport, not gut-busting workouts where a young girl has to suffer extreme pain.

Oh please stop your fear-mongering! Who smiles during a workout?? Please don't have that be the barometer for classifying a workout as successful or not.

Watch Connor Mantz in a workout and you will think he is dying at 5 minute pace. He looks miserable.

All about context and purpose.....

Back in HS a week before setting my 3200m PR at the state meet I ran 4 x 1600m in 4:43-45 with a mile jog between. Guess what I went through the 1600m mark at state? 4:45. Led for a bit after that,, was even at 800m out then got the doors own off me finishing in 7th but a PR of 9:32.

We dont know the context, but mile repeats with a 5sec spread looks normal to me.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

All about context and purpose.....

Back in HS a week before setting my 3200m PR at the state meet I ran 4 x 1600m in 4:43-45 with a mile jog between. Guess what I went through the 1600m mark at state? 4:45. Led for a bit after that,, was even at 800m out then got the doors own off me finishing in 7th but a PR of 9:32.

We dont know the context, but mile repeats with a 5sec spread looks normal to me.

Alan

4 x 1600 at 3200m race pace with a mile jog between is SIGNIFICANTLY different than 4 x Mile at 3200m race pace with 2:30 rest between.

And no, I'm not talking about the 9m difference between a 1600 and a Mile there in case you are wondering.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

All about context and purpose.....

Back in HS a week before setting my 3200m PR at the state meet I ran 4 x 1600m in 4:43-45 with a mile jog between. Guess what I went through the 1600m mark at state? 4:45. Led for a bit after that,, was even at 800m out then got the doors own off me finishing in 7th but a PR of 9:32.

We dont know the context, but mile repeats with a 5sec spread looks normal to me.

Alan

4 x 1600 at 3200m race pace with a mile jog between is SIGNIFICANTLY different than 4 x Mile at 3200m race pace with 2:30 rest between.

And no, I'm not talking about the 9m difference between a 1600 and a Mile there in case you are wondering.

Yet another speculation you've just made. No athlete could complete that workout if it were their true 3200m race pace. 2:30 just isn't enough rest to allow for a successful workout. That should justify the workout isn't as "horrible: as you claim.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

I agree she looked extremely relaxed, but to me it doesn't mean much. Two people can race similar times, one looks like he is dieing the whole race and does heavy breathing that you can hear from wide distance, the other one barely breaths, and looks super relaxed. The guy who looks like he was dieing outkicks the other one easily at the end. Both raced at 100% of their maximum, just different muscle fiber distribution.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

She also wasn't smiling during the workout. Look at Starliper's workout Wednesday - she was having so much fun with being filmed and everything, that's what's gonna keep a runner to the sport, not gut-busting workouts where a young girl has to suffer extreme pain.

Go home Phil. You're drunk.

According to her Instagram, she ran a 9:39.67 3200m with 4 other boys.

djdjdkdkdkdk wrote:

According to her Instagram, she ran a 9:39.67 3200m with 4 other boys.

Link? And shouldn't that say 9:39.7?

LATE RUNNER PHIL AND OP GO HOME DEVASTATED!!

You people don't know sh!t about f^ck.

Imagine that she runs 15:20 instead of 15:30.

There are no other girls capable of completing this workout. This girl would crush the competition in 2 mile or 5k.

Jeljo wrote:

LATE RUNNER PHIL AND OP GO HOME DEVASTATED!!

You people don't know sh!t about f^ck.

Devastated from what? Can you read? The workout is stupid regardless of what she can run. She'll be injured before she runs it when it counts anyway, just like Strangio.

Stupidest post ever. I'm not even going to read the thread. For all intents and purposes, she ran four equal miles. Humans are not robots. For that reason , I often give my athletes a ten second target window for repeat type exercises. The actual target will vary depending on athlete skill and the intended purpose of the workout.

Why would you wish that on a 17 year old girl? The workout is a classic 15:25 5k workout. Guys run this workout routinely. She can run 15:25 so the workout is absolutely spot on.

Queen of the World wrote:

Why would you wish that on a 17 year old girl? The workout is a classic 15:25 5k workout. Guys run this workout routinely. She can run 15:25 so the workout is absolutely spot on.

I knew that inevitably some low IQ would say that. No where did I wish anything upon her, in fact, my comments are directly in opposition to wanting her injured, that's why she should not be doing stupid workouts like this. The people that want to see her injured are the idiots that encourage this stupidity with high schoolers.

Not every workout has to fit within your extremely limited boundaries of exercise physiology - Hard workouts are done to increase confidence, practice running at a hard pace, developing pain tolerance ... Also, this workout isn't even extremely hard, it's a peak shape 5k pace w/o ...

Also, saying "Anyone who hasn't run 15:30, is not showcasing 15:30" is a little hypocritical since you're also boosting your paces based on workout efforts/ "95%" time trials etc... Practice what you preach

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Stupidest workout ever, OR STUPIDEST POST EVER?

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2020/05/high-schooler-brynn-brown-runs-second-best-3200-in-us-hs-girls-history/

This didn't age well... Did it...

A lot of butthurt people in this thread.

In a season where there are literally zero races going on, people are seriously complaining about a really hard workout?

She still ran a 9:39, though.

Stay mad, kiddos. LMAO