just sayin wrote:
Its just bad he didn't do it
It would have forced kipchoge to play ball with bekele and drop the 2 hr nonsense
As it is bekele still has it all to prove
It may inspire him to keep going in 2020, which, considering many people thought he was done long ago, is really quite extraordinary.
Kipchoge is mortal.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It's not a racial problem; it's a sporting problem - but some countries appear to be more of a problem than others. WADA says the same.
Thanks for giving a direct answer. Care to list some of those countries?
If Norway isn't on the list you're full of sh*t.
No country is immune from doping - that includes Norway - and individuals anywhere - including Norway - are also possible dopers. That is a different issue from identifying those countries where doping is more prevalent. Obviously, Russia has in recent years been identified as one of the worst but high on official lists as "most at risk of doping" are Kenya, Ethiopia, Belarus and Ukraine. But, as I said above, doping can be found everywhere in elite sport, in
any country, as has been pointed out by anti-doping activists like Renee Anne Shirley.
provider of common sense wrote:
No one caught =/= no one doping
Let it go already, and enjoy the sport for what it is. Let the administrators do their jobs. You sound like one of those global warming loonies who can’t sit back and just enjoy things, and are hell bent on dragging the rest of us into their miserable existences.
It should also be understood that the numbers of athletes caught - anywhere - is not a full or exact measure of the extent of doping, as official estimates of actual doping far exceed the numbers of positive tests - up to and in excess of 50% actual dopers as against 0.5% of tested athletes returning a positive. As former WADA head Richard Pound has said, "only the dumb and the careless get caught". Most dopers are highly professional at the practice and successfully evade detection; a higher incidence of national doping can be a reflection of the comparative "amateurism" of their doping culture.
I wish there was a doping filter on Let's Run. Filter out all the useless drivel (apparently about 60-70%) and maybe these threads would be less of a chore. I don't get why people who are obsessed with doping bother posting here. If they think this sport is compromised to the point of . . . pointlessness, why not go watch rugby or something else?
Anyway, watching the last 1.x K of Bekele's run was excruciating. I could tell he was not shifting gears enough and he wasn't going to get it, even though it was within reach. Kipchoge ran 41 to 42K in 2:44. Second fastest split after the first km (and previous km was 2:48), but theoretically doable for Bekele to run a 2:40 or so in the end. It's 4:17 mile pace, and normally a a sub-2:08 final 800 does not sound like a problem for a guy who once ran an entire 10K at 4:13.79 pace. Does anyone know BK's last couple splits?
Bekele must have been giving it everything he had, just didn't have the energy for that extra gear in the end, understandable in the circumstances. But ouch, 2 seconds!
This was very impressive.
Making up 13 seconds in the last 5k.
if anyone remembers i predicted a 2:01:30s before, i believe in the 2017 berlin marathon. i dont really know how to search that specific on here but i know i predicted that time, my handle a the time was m!ndweak...it would be cool if someone can find it. i gave a prediction on his splits too...turns out he wasnt in shape that day and did a DNF but yeah i saw it coming...it was kipchoge who got to it first though.
so for anyone good at searching the archives find my prediction that would be cool
I remember Renato Canova said after Amsterdam that he is capable of 2:01:30. I'm sure he can easily get at least 11 seconds more off his PB if he continues improving. He will get the WR eventually.
Banana Bread wrote:
I remember Renato Canova said after Amsterdam that he is capable of 2:01:30. I'm sure he can easily get at least 11 seconds more off his PB if he continues improving. He will get the WR eventually.
well well well, i found mine before the lord and savior renato said it....and he is a God right? and im just some dumb dumb who cant think logically or whatever lols
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RE: Bekele in sub 2:02 shape? 10/9/2018 12:49PM - in reply to Canova>god
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Canova>god wrote:
Bye bye bekele wrote:
Takinadump wrote:
I think he will PR and be #2 all time...but no way he runs sub 2:02. It's way too late into his career for that
World-greats have been running in the 2:05-2:06 range here for the last two decades, right? No way a washed up Bekele breaks 2:04. The CR should be a real struggle.
Canova believes it's the fastest course in the world.
lols the course record is 2:05:09.....i dont think that qualifies for being fast
i bet KB does a high 2:03-low 2:04 which would be a high 2:01-low 2:02 worth in berlin. but the problem is he is in amsterdam, and the best time is 2:05...
trying to find my prediction still
On German television they said he trained for about 2 months in the Netherlands before he did his 3 month training back in epopia.
Fastnbulbous wrote:
Anyway, watching the last 1.x K of Bekele's run was excruciating. I could tell he was not shifting gears enough and he wasn't going to get it, even though it was within reach. Kipchoge ran 41 to 42K in 2:44. Second fastest split after the first km (and previous km was 2:48), but theoretically doable for Bekele to run a 2:40 or so in the end. It's 4:17 mile pace, and normally a a sub-2:08 final 800 does not sound like a problem for a guy who once ran an entire 10K at 4:13.79 pace. Does anyone know BK's last couple splits?
Looking again at the footage, it appears Bekele's 41-42K split was 2:51 (just 4:35 pace), versus Kipchoge's 2:44 (4:23). But while Kipchoge cruised the last .195 km in 35 seconds (4:48 pace), Bekele made up 4 seconds in 31 (4:15 pace). Assuming the split given on the screen was accurate, Bekele only needed to improve his last km to about 4:30 mile pace (not much faster than the 4:38 average pace for the whole distance) to break the WR.
Goat goal wrote:
just sayin wrote:
Its just bad he didn't do it
It would have forced kipchoge to play ball with bekele and drop the 2 hr nonsense
As it is bekele still has it all to prove
It may inspire him to keep going in 2020, which, considering many people thought he was done long ago, is really quite extraordinary.
He roared back and gave a big STFU to all us doubters
This is simply amazing.
I wonder if Kipchoge will consider not racing the Olympics now. In order to defend his world record at next years Berlin.
provider of common sense wrote:
No one caught =/= no one doping
Countries where there are more doping fails = more likely to have a doping issue
If x = 1 then u = stoopid
Land down south wrote:
This is simply amazing.
I wonder if Kipchoge will consider not racing the Olympics now. In order to defend his world record at next years Berlin.
He doesn't have to defend his wr
They're called Vaporflys
Does he consciously lift his heels up as he runs?
Bumping this thread as hype for those who have forgotten.
oldmanbeks wrote:
Is Bekele taking some awesome new PED? This all seems suspicious to me.
Of course he’s on a cocktail...but like BJ, Dolt, etc it would be said that so are all of his competition, and so he is still the best.
I have always liked his running form—economical, powerful for a distance guy, very consistent, solid upper body carriage, no wasted arm crossover, etc. Beautiful form.
I totally agree that he could have gotten the record today. Just as Flake is to me the real 200m WR-holder, so Bekele is the real marathon WR-holder.
When is his next one, and will he still enjoy the advantages of this training block?
GOAT at longer distances. At shorter distances I would have the machine known as Komen. Legend. Solo. Imagine all the greats at their top form up against Komen in his top form, at 3000m. Bekele would be in there, for sure.