I mean gee boys and girls, whats more likely. That Wiley was magically able to run what would be the second fastest college time clean, or that she is being doped by coaches who have been publicly accused of doping their athletes and in Nick's case, even worse, and who lack the slightest moral scruple? What possible, rational reason do you think the Johnsons did not dope her for this race? And what possible reason do you think that Wiley, who decommitted from CU because she refused to part with the Johnsons, is not fully complicit and is not eagerly playing along? I realize the fans on this board are especially dumb regarding doping. But even the special levels of stupid on this board have to reach a limit eventually. Yes, this is complete fraud.
I had suspicions for a couple of days because of very faulty algorithms that were equating her race to 14:40. But the HU scandal is a matter of public record and an embarrassment to the entire sport.
She had a huge leap her senior year as an 18 year old. People following the story think the Johnson's may have started doping her once she became an adult.
she went 2:04 for 800 as a junior which very much aligns with what she ran for the 1600/mile as a senior
i get that astro is likely using multiple handles in this thread and so i'm mostly talking to a wall here
i just wish there were more intelligent people on this forum, or at least those curious to learn more
99% of posters here have never used PEDs and don't understand how they work. had the Johnson's given Addy epo she would have been WAY faster in the 5000
Wiley told runnerspace that she runs a fast 5k in under 15:30's so your post about 17 minute 5k is incorrect.
I don't think you can tell what exact type of drugs she may be on by looking at her times. Does it even matter?
As far as peds are concerned, Divine Oduduru was on peds, among other things, and he is a sprinter. Peds can help shorter distances too.
How does Astro get to specifically accuse Wiley of doping, and, in other threads, throw a nighttime worth of shade on Kipyegon? Can I say untested-Tuohy is filthy? Or that she’s not nice? Just trying to figure out the rules.
I don't care about times. The tip off on Wiley was the World U20 final last year in which she repeatedly tried to mix it up with the Ethiopians and Kenyans over the final lap plus. Multiple aggressive surges. Athletic arrogance.
You never see American 1500+ women demonstrate that type of attitude. The vast majority do what Mia Barnett did in the same race...settle immediately to the back of the pack and make sure you're never a factor.
Wiley gave way late in that race because her early strategy was poor. She gave herself too much to do over the first three laps. It's obvious she learned from that because today she made sure to be untroubled near the front.
I love those U18 and U20 events because so many stars are revealed. That women's 1500 final certified Birke Haylom as a freak talent and Addy Wiley as most likely the best American 1500 female of the upcoming generation.
She also looked bigger and stronger and fitter today than my images of her from last summer.
Lets see. How about we start with the fact that HU athletes have formally accused Nick and Lauren Johnson of doping their athletes and Nick Johnson of rape/sexual assault, that Nick admitted giving injections to his athletes. and that the Johnsons have been under a cloud of suspicion since the Oregon track club. Then add an obviously suspect performance, where a 19 year runner suddenly ran the second fastest ncaa time after running 4:12 a few weeks back.
I don't know if this is an act or if people here are just dense. Sorry. But an athlete whose coaches are credibly accused of doping their athletes and who have demonstrate zero moral scruples given the criminal accusations against them just ran an incredible time. If you think that is on the level, there is no helping you
You can accuse Tuohy of whatever you want. You just do not have any facts to support it. If you can point out anything like what is public record with Wiley, have at it. Bc otherwise no one cares.
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Anyway Dave, my challenge stands. Tell me how I have the HU scandal wrong. Got really quiet around here when I asked that question. Do you know anything about it? Have you read a single document? There is a 45 page thread on this site to catch up.
Oh and Kipyegon shattered a record that is one of the most doped out times going, outclassing seven members of Ma's army, 2 Soviets, Shelby Houlihan, Dibaba and Hassan on the all time list while running for the stable already involved in doping scandals. Really going out on a limb to question that one. Lol.
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