If Rowbury were to get the trifecta by breaking Slaney's 8:25.83, these critics would go silent. That looks achievable for her based on conversions, but not a slam dunk. She would need a fast race.
Shannon Rowbury Breaks American - Runs 14:38.92 in Brussels!
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Is the thread about the fat chick that runs the 5 k?
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Yeah If wrote:
The sport is lucky to have both Simpson and Rowbury, two very talented, very intelligent, quite nice people. Of course they would have their detractors here. Of course.
POD thank you, totally agree.
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rjm33 wrote:
Wrong.
It was not invalid. Mary's Slaney's excuse that it was caused by her birth control pills was not accepted. After all of her appeals ran out, she was banned, and her indoor WC silver medal was taken away. She was over the 6:1 T/E ratio at the time. The ratio was changed to 4:1 by WADA in 2005.
from Wiki:
In 1996, at the age of 37, as she qualified for the 5000 meters at the Atlanta Olympics, Decker became involved in controversy. A urine test taken in June at the Olympic Trials showed a testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E) ratio greater than the allowable maximum of six to one.[12] At the time of the positive test Decker was being coached by Alberto Salazar.[13]
Decker and her lawyers contended that the T/E ratio test is unreliable for women, especially women in their late 30s or older who are taking birth control pills. In the meantime, Decker was eliminated in the heats at the Olympics.[4]
In June 1997, the IAAF banned Decker from competition. In September 1999, a USATF panel reinstated her.[14][15] The IAAF cleared her to compete but took the case to arbitration. In April, 1999, the arbitration panel ruled against her, after which the IAAF – through a retroactive ban, even though she was cleared to compete – stripped her of a silver medal she had won in the 1500 meters at the 1997 World Indoor Championships.[16][17]
In April 1999, Decker filed suit against both the IAAF and the U.S. Olympic Committee which administered the test, arguing that the test is flawed and cannot distinguish between androgens caused by the use of banned substances and androgens resulting from the use of birth control pills.[18] The court ruled that it had no jurisdiction, a decision that was upheld on appeal.[19]
The (T/E) ratio test has seen its standards tightened to a 4:1 ratio, instead of the previous 6:1 ratio, and laboratories now also run a carbon isotope ratio test (CIR) if the ratio is unusually high.[20]
My apologies. I either didn't remember or didn't know all the facts, and I genuinely appreciate the thorough feedback...
rjm33 wrote:
Try again troll pup.
...although it did come with the obligatory LRC self-righteous, condescending insult: unprovoked, inaccurate, and unnecessary. Ironically, that comment says much more about you than it does about me.
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wejo wrote:
Of course Simpson isn't going to change places with her but it's still pretty cool to be the 1500 and 5000 record holder at the same time.
I think Mary Slaney had both records at once. Anyone else?
Shannon ran a smart race and was helped by Ayana not going out crazy fast the first mile.
Yeah but its women's racing. When Mary Decker was running it was still in its infancy
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[quote]wejo wrote:
Of course Simpson isn't going to change places with her but it's still pretty cool to be the 1500 and 5000 record holder at the same time.
I think Mary Slaney had both records at once. Anyone else?
Mary held every AR from 800m through 10k (no steeple back then).
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"Ah yes, 14:38 for 5k, now if she could run that for another 5k back to back without rest, she'd would have a silver medal from Rio."
That really puts this in perspective, still our distance runners are making some good progress.
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