Kenny, meet deep end. Deep end, meet Kenny.
Kenny, meet deep end. Deep end, meet Kenny.
gatorade&vodka wrote:
Wait, why does the accomplice have a zip-loc bag? That is a nice touch.
Lehigh had a bib chip.
Would you want another guys ball sweat all over your bib?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mike_RossiInconvenient Truth wrote:
Laughable wrote:Lets use your logic and talk about Lance Armstrong.
Interesting story? Check.
Did his cheating change my life? Nope. Not at all. Still an interesting story.
Does Lance think "I still have my experience winning the Tour de France and that was the whole point!"? I HIGHLY doubt that's anywhere near what he thinks. He has to live his life knowing that every time he has a conversation, he has to think "Are they smiling because they're nice or because they know the truth???" and he has to try to look them in the eye the whole time. Welcome to Mike's world.
...and don't forget that he will always be known as both a cheater and liar...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_course-cutting
LMR wrote:
Doubler wrote:The connection is much stronger than you think. The guy got married, and had a photo booth at a December wedding. Yet, no photos could be found of the wedding online. There is no other explanation to this, other than to surmise that this guy helped Mike cheat.
You're leaving out the part where the alleged accomplice's videographer bailed on him just hours before the ceremony started.
I have filmed over 600 weddings in the past 10 years and have NEVER had a wedding professional not show. Not showing up is not an acceptable thing to do. Heck, I filmed a wedding on the day my father died, because we had a huge snow storm and my backups were snowed in.
My feeling is that Mike traded free video services in exchange for the accomplice carrying his bib, because Mike didn't know how many timing mats there would be. So he covered his ass.
But when he found out there were no mats and the accomplice didn't actually help him he decided that he didn't want to pay a shooter $400 to film the guys wedding and still have to do all the editing.
Wait, what? This is actually your theory? No? How would you even know the videographer bailed? Regardless, you know that anyone can just look at the results from previous years and see that VIA had only ever had a start and finish timing mat right? And he could simply ask anybody who had done the race before and confirm this. And, that the "unnamed marine's" wife does have wedding photo's online, and clearly indicates who her photographer was. And the wedding was timed for when the "unnamed marine" returned from his oversea's deployment (not because of cost). And that I figured all that out in about 90 seconds of internet "research".
This thread gets more and more insane. You've watched too many movies. In real life, the simplest answer is usually correct. A guy named Ockham figured this out a few centuries ago, Ken, early 1300's, you need to catch up.
Doubler wrote:
Here is the 'accomplice theory' pretty much in it's entirety. I was careful to redact names and places..nothing personal is posted here. But Ken, you really need to stop.
My girlfriend has a bachelors degree in mathematics and she says that the odds of them starting and stopping with in six seconds of each other, beans that they both started the race approximately 30 seconds after the gun, is astronomically high
That's my basis for believing that ***** may be the accomplice
What I did beyond that is I looked into Mike possibly having a wedding client because accomplice and that's where there's a possible connection with ****
So I looked up his Facebook account and his wife's Facebook account and I cannot find any pictures among them or any of their friends from their wedding
Well that's not incriminating is extremely odd for a bride or her bridal party not the post pictures from the wedding. Brides love the post pictures from the wedding
I think because of what **** may have done he made sure that him and his wife were not tagged in any of their wedding photos
Again not incriminating, but from the standpoint of a wedding professional it's very odd and possibly suspicious
I looked and all that. They were married December, 2014 at a reception hall called ********** in **************** Pennsylvania
I was able to view their photos that was anything suspicious there
My first thought was that maybe Mike could photograph their wedding and subcontractor photographer but that didn't pan out
I know he wasn't the DJ
I kept hitting dead ends but I finally hit something lately
So then I thought he offered video services
But I discover the was no videographer at the wedding
The way I found that out is the DJ me a video of his own at the wedding. He just had an assistant make something with a flip phone. And if they're in a professional videographer I would've seen lights and cameras. So I thought I was hitting a dead end
But…
Looking into their wedding they got engaged in May and they had their wedding in late December. One week before Christmas
Knowing what I know of weddings, a wedding the week before Christmas is typically a low budget wedding
Reception halls get huge discounts the book the week before Christmas
They even bought the low-budget photographer
But when I saw the photographs they had a photo booth
Photo Booth generally run about $800 are typically not seen it low-budget weddings
I wasn't able to prove that might provide a Photo Booth that night
But here comes the kicker
Go to Google and search for *****************wedding wire reviews
There is a review by *******'s bride praising her DJ for doing a wonderful job and also saying that he created a video for them because their videographer did not show up that night
I have been filming weddings for 10 years. I filmed over 600 weddings. I have never ever experienced a wedding professional not show up
My feeling is that Mike promised him video services in exchange for carrying his bib and then couldn't get anybody to shoot the wedding that night, so he sent somebody with a Photo Booth to make up for it
I've also thought that maybe because there were no tiny mats and ****** didn't actually help him in anyway cheat that Mike didn't feel like he should spend $400 for somebody shoot the wedding and then have to edit it later. So
So he purposely didn't send anybody that night and sent a photo booth instead
The only thing I can't do right now is put Mike's company at *******'s wedding
Doubler:
In the interest of getting Kenny some professional help, could you please email his mother in law and alert her to this thread. Let's let her know that her ex-son in law is stalking the bridesmaids of the wife of a marine who has done nothing wrong.
I'm not joking here. Kenny is mentally ill. He is so far off the deep end, he can't process simple ideas which prove his twisted theories are impossible or improbable.
Email the mother in law. Alert her to this thread. I'm happy to sit down tomorrow and put up a few links to some of Ken's more disturbing posts.
At the very least, she should know that Ken is saying that she is part of his bizarre efforts. I sincerely doubt she has actually signed on to Team Kenny.
gatorade&vodka wrote:
Looking at the Lehigh results...
Runners NC and DC finished at 2:45, started 1 second apart, finished 1 second apart.
Runners SH and BS finished at 2:56, started 2 seconds apart, finished 2 seconds apart.
Runners DD and DP finished at 2:58, started 4 seconds apart, finished 3 seconds apart.
Runners JV and RC finished at 2:59, started 2 seconds apart, finished 1 second apart.
This is all in the top 36 runners. Look at all those astronomical coincidences.
(If you click on a runner in the results, and then click the "timing" tab, you can see start times.)
Long time lurker here - and I have to say that this is fascinating stuff.
The whole accomplice/wedding theory is out there...
But isn't it odd that two ~3:10 runners start 30+ seconds back at such a small marathon, where most people starting in that range are ~4:00 runners? And then they finish within seconds of each other (not to mention consecutively in terms of gun time). That is a little too coincidental for my taste, and a little too Kip Litton-ish in terms of gun/net time difference when compared to the rest of the field.
At the very least, the dude was 2 seconds back of Mike at the start. Surely they had to be weaving together that first mile.
Ken, you excuse a lot of what you write on here about the cheater because of horrible things he wrote about you, your girlfriend and your kid. Fine. But what did this marine do to you that excuses the way you are defaming him on here? And whether you use his name or not doesn't matter. We know who he is, you know and he would know. You are besmirching an innocent man who did nothing to you.
It has been explained to you that your theory is stupid. Rossi cheated alone. Move on.
MRTLurker wrote:
Long time lurker here - and I have to say that this is fascinating stuff.
The whole accomplice/wedding theory is out there...
But isn't it odd that two ~3:10 runners start 30+ seconds back at such a small marathon, where most people starting in that range are ~4:00 runners? And then they finish within seconds of each other (not to mention consecutively in terms of gun time). That is a little too coincidental for my taste, and a little too Kip Litton-ish in terms of gun/net time difference when compared to the rest of the field.
At the very least, the dude was 2 seconds back of Mike at the start. Surely they had to be weaving together that first mile.
Well, it's not weird that Rossi started 30 seconds back, presumably he was trying not to be noticed. And two seconds apart at the start is a lot. There would be dozens of runners starting with them and between them. Also, they wouldn't necessarily be weaving together because we don't know that Mike went out at 3:10 pace.
I'm hoping Ken is trolling us so hard and doesn't actually believe this stuff. Or that LMR is actually Mike trying to make Ken look as stupid as possible.
LMR is actually Ken. no doubt.
I told Ken that the 'accomplice' was only valuable if he could get confirmation that Barb never contacted him. But that was awhile ago. It's accepted that they didn't reach out to any runners.
So I pretty much fill in what Ken already posted with the rest of his theory and he deems it necessary to post my name.
I knew that was coming..he's to predictable. and may lead to his banning or the locking of the thread.
Ken is the one that suggested we contact the Marine and secretly record the conversation. he has no qualms about invading others' privacy.
And Ken, notice I removed all names and locations..and deleted the personal stuff that you posted.
And I don't know who his mother in law is not what publication she works at-nor do I care.
RossiCheated wrote:
Ken, you excuse a lot of what you write on here about the cheater because of horrible things he wrote about you, your girlfriend and your kid. Fine. But what did this marine do to you that excuses the way you are defaming him on here? And whether you use his name or not doesn't matter. We know who he is, you know and he would know. You are besmirching an innocent man who did nothing to you.
It has been explained to you that your theory is stupid. Rossi cheated alone. Move on.
Never defamed him. Just said his times looked suspicious. You can blame SarahB for dropping his name. I never had any intentions of mentioning his name. I still don't. If something comes to light that proves that Mike and this runner knew each other before the race, I still wouldn't want to slander a Marine's name. But the chick from Britain had no problem with it.
From what I saw in the results only 3 runners started 30 seconds after the gun.
UnregisteredUsername wrote:
Email the mother in law. Alert her to this thread. I'm happy to sit down tomorrow and put up a few links to some of Ken's more disturbing posts.
At the very least, she should know that Ken is saying that she is part of his bizarre efforts. I sincerely doubt she has actually signed on to Team Kenny.
You're hilarious. I've known my mother-in-law for 18 years. You think you're gonna show her some nasty posts made by some trolls and she's just gonna hate my guts? And when I explain to her how Mike Rossi called her grandson a gimp and a retard she just gonna file a restraining order against me and have my custody rights taken away, I suppose?
Now who is mentally ill? Hmmm, YOU!
gatorade&vodka wrote:
I'm hoping Ken is trolling us so hard and doesn't actually believe this stuff. Or that LMR is actually Mike trying to make Ken look as stupid as possible.
+1
Some of the jokes are actually quite funny, such as the one with the mother-in-law helping the ex of her daughter with an investigative piece about a runner once wrongly accused to have taken a shortcut.
SmartRunnr wrote:
gatorade&vodka wrote:I'm hoping Ken is trolling us so hard and doesn't actually believe this stuff. Or that LMR is actually Mike trying to make Ken look as stupid as possible.
+1
Some of the jokes are actually quite funny, such as the one with the mother-in-law helping the ex of her daughter with an investigative piece about a runner once wrongly accused to have taken a shortcut.
Do you know you are the only person alive who thinks Mike ran that race? LOL
SmartRunnr wrote:
gatorade&vodka wrote:I'm hoping Ken is trolling us so hard and doesn't actually believe this stuff. Or that LMR is actually Mike trying to make Ken look as stupid as possible.
+1
Some of the jokes are actually quite funny, such as the one with the mother-in-law helping the ex of her daughter with an investigative piece about a runner once wrongly accused to have taken a shortcut.
No, no, you got it all wrong. You are pretty dumb for a "smart runner". Ken wanted his mother in law to write an article about the well known marathon cheat, Mike Rossi. You know, the marathon cheater who was offered $100,000 to simply repeat his 3:11 time, which should be easy money, except he is a cheater and he has the worst laughable running form and so he will never be able to run a 3:11 marathon. Anyway, who is the runner who was once wrongly accused of taking a short cut? Is he or she another wedding DJ in Philly? That would be crazy.
LMR wrote:
From what I saw in the results only 3 runners started 30 seconds after the gun.
There are tons of runners who took 30 seconds or more to cross the line. There was definitely still a crowd of runners crossing at that time, no reason to connect any two of them based on start time.
Kenny,
You're done here! You are suffering from a classic case of anxiety induced obsession. If you don't nip it now, it will devolve into something really bad.
Please, for your own good stop posting here, get off the computer and go for a walk.
abingtonrunner wrote:
With that said, a number of runners who have been contacted by several of us finished right before and right after Rossi stated in no uncertain terms that they were NOT contacted by race officials in spite of what was reported above.
This is hilarious on so many levels.
First: pics, or it didn't happen.
Second: most runners wouldn't have responded, so your endeavor - if it did happen - was pointless.
Third: I am trying to visualize how a letsrunner would email a 3:10 finisher...
... maybe like this:
Dear Steve,
congrats on your marathon! I once ran one too, but bonked brutally during the last 10 miles despite my 13:30 PR over 5000. Guess I should've run more than 20 miles per week. My hot wife, a 10, was so worried when it took me forever finish! Fortunately we both have six figure jobs, so we laughed off the shameful 2:22 in our Porsche on the way home.
Anyway, over at letsrun, some of us suspect that a certain Mike, another 6", 170 pound fatso, might have taken a shortcut to BQ! Ok, the Boston mary is a lame event for the slow hobby joggers, but we letsrunners still care!! You haven't seem him jogging by, right??
Best,
a real runner.
And you take their response, if there was any, serious?
If Mike Rossi doesn\'t care about the \"haters,\" then why does he respond to and block them on Twitter?
LMR wrote:
And if I ever do get to speak with the alleged accomplice, I would have his permission as well. I'm not out to trick anybody. And if he didn't want to cooperate I'd respect that as well. We'll just have to see if he ever wants to clear the air.
There is no air to clear. There is no accomplice. Aside from being pointless, it is risky and makes no sense with Rossi's personality. He would have to admit to needing to cheat to someone, who would always know that he was a fake, and he would always have to worry about being exposed by that person. Much better to just keep the cheating to himself.
Ken, at least a half dozen others saw that post in the FB group. Your words whole re that you can record someone without consent as long as you are not trying to admit the recording for court.
And keep on posting my name. That will result in either your being banned or the thread being shut down. I don't know how you'd fill your days without this thread.