Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

9.5/10, because I've wasted 2 minutes to refute it.

Go read the Via Marathon waiver. It says you agree you have read and abide by the USATF Long Distance Running rules. The 2015 USATF Long Distance Rules say (Rule 240):

Any competitor who has been found by the Referee and/or Jury of Appeal to have gained an unfair advantage by intentionally shortening the route of the race ("cutting the course") shall be immediately disqualified from the competition. See also Rule 163.6.

Now, the referee and jury of appeal part was what that whole Albuquerque mess was about. I bet the Via marathon didn't have that set up. So he cheated and they're incompetent. I think that is what the last 12,000 posts have been about.

RossiCheated wrote:

What do you think the rules say about long distance running?

I have no idea. Why don't you cite the relevant part that says you have to run the whole distance?

Nice Troll! wrote:

Any competitor who has been found by the Referee and/or Jury of Appeal to have gained an unfair advantage by intentionally shortening the route of the race ("cutting the course") shall be immediately disqualified from the competition. See also Rule 163.6.

This looks good for Rossi. Very good. Not clear he broke any rules at all.

this is the key wrote:

Rossi is correct; he did nothing wrong.

Read the Lehigh Valley Marathon rules, and tell me where it says that a participant has to actually run every bit of the course, from start to finish, in order to be counted as a finisher, and to receive a finishing time.

Are people this stupid? Somebody thinks you need such a rule? I hope you are a troll and that nobody is this stupid - it keeps coming up and I hope maybe somebody is trying to trick Rossi into confessing and have him rely on "I never broke the rules" argument. That would be awesome.

There is no "shrewd" lawyer in the world that would win on this incredibly stupid argument. Stop watching TV. All a lawyer would do, which occurs often, is pull out a dictionary - the definition of a marathon is: "a foot race over a course measuring 26 mi. 385 yards (42 km 195 meters)". Then they would follow it up with every other bit of information about this race - the course map, that it is certified USATF distance course and a Boston qualifier etc etc etc so it's pretty clear what VIA marathon is. I would love - love - to be against a lawyer who wanted to argue that Rossi didn't know he couldn't drive to the finish and have him testify to that. And actually tell a judge - "there was no rule against it". I would love for his lawyer and Rossi to explain what exactly they understand "running a marathon" to be? Q: Why do they keep time? Why give out a course map? etc etc etc.

I've seen a lot of stupid arguments - but this one - would take the cake for the stupidest thing I have ever heard someone try. You think there needs to be a rule that you have to run the whole distance? It's the very definition of the race.

If he's willing to make that argument, what he should do is sign up for another race and hold his breath until he passes out. Then he can sue for damages because there was no rule that specifically says that a runner is allowed to breath as they run, so he didn't think breathing was allowed, which is why he held is breath suffering injury. It's the marathons fault for not making a rule specifically allowing breathing. That has just as much chance of success as arguing he thought he could drive the route.

USTAF wrote:

Nice Troll! wrote:

Any competitor who has been found by the Referee and/or Jury of Appeal to have gained an unfair advantage by intentionally shortening the route of the race ("cutting the course") shall be immediately disqualified from the competition. See also Rule 163.6.

This looks good for Rossi. Very good. Not clear he broke any rules at all.

Hey, a friend of mine is selling a bridge. Interested?

somebloke wrote:

Hey, a friend of mine is selling a bridge. Interested?

Way off topic. You aren't helping catch Rossi. Just stop posting. STOP POSTING.

The question is not whether one needs to win this argument in court. The question is whether Rossi needs to admit to do something that is against the rules. There does not seem to be a rule that he violated.

Also some races, namely trail races, explicitly say in the rules that you have to cover the entire distance on foot.

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

somebloke wrote:

Hey, a friend of mine is selling a bridge. Interested?

Way off topic. You aren't helping catch Rossi. Just stop posting. STOP POSTING.

Are you seriously comparing a cheeky post like mine to the sort of hogwash you have been posting about his family and business? Please.

this is the key wrote:

Rossi is correct; he did nothing wrong.

Read the Lehigh Valley Marathon rules, and tell me where it says that a participant has to actually run every bit of the course, from start to finish, in order to be counted as a finisher, and to receive a finishing time.

Your babysitter will be so happy to know she can show up, take a nap and still get paid as long as she is there at the end of the night! You didn't EXPLICITLY say she had to watch the kids constantly.

Your gardner will be happy he did NOTHING WRONG showing up at your house, taking the lawn mower off his truck, texting his friends and then loading the mower back on again. Getting paid to "mow your lawn" doesn't spell out that he actually has to mow the whole lawn... Free money in his pocket!

Your auto mechanic will think it's an awesome day knowing he can put your car on a lift, drink a mocha latte and charge you full price as if he actually worked on your car. It's true that your brake job would be $300 so the invoice doesn't lie.... he just didn't actually do the whole job. No worries!

What's that? Your pizza box is empty? Doesn't matter! You called Domino's, they folded a box, you came to pick it up! Done! Nothing wrong! When you order a pizza there's nothing saying they actually have to give you a pizza... that's your assumption, not the rule!

You're happy paying those people in each of those scenarios, right? Those people are all correct and did nothing wrong!

STFU already moron.

This man stole my speech.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0oa9b2026zgkfne/AACGA5syrSQEO0U5gUhvZQt7a

Always Given, Never EarnedRide like you stole it...wait, he did steal it....Mike "The Toolinator" Wins!

Theodore Roosevelt wrote:

This man stole my speech.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0oa9b2026zgkfne/AACGA5syrSQEO0U5gUhvZQt7a

LoserMikeRossi wrote:

somebloke wrote:

Hey, a friend of mine is selling a bridge. Interested?

Way off topic. You aren't helping catch Rossi. Just stop posting. STOP POSTING.

Another quote from Kenny:

June 15 - "I'm sorry for you that your eyes and/or your penis have stopped working. Mine are in good shape and I'm sure most of the guys on here would admit to looking at attractive women when they dance."

Mike's made it in French:

http://runningreboot.com/2015/07/22/marathon-reseaux-sociaux-et-triche/

Unfortunately, this isn't going viral with main stream media, I thought they would have been all over it what with the $100,000 offer.

I would have thought Brojo's would be sending info out to all the news wires, AAP, Fox, etc with a condensed version of their article, it would have to be condensed the other one is too long and detailed for most media, casual readers and gossip mongers.

Nice Troll! wrote:

9.5/10, because I've wasted 2 minutes to refute it.

Go read the Via Marathon waiver. It says you agree you have read and abide by the USATF Long Distance Running rules. The 2015 USATF Long Distance Rules say (Rule 240):

Any competitor who has been found by the Referee and/or Jury of Appeal to have gained an unfair advantage by intentionally shortening the route of the race ("cutting the course") shall be immediately disqualified from the competition. See also Rule 163.6.

Now, the referee and jury of appeal part was what that whole Albuquerque mess was about. I bet the Via marathon didn't have that set up. So he cheated and they're incompetent. I think that is what the last 12,000 posts have been about.

So if the LVM didn't have a designated "Referee" or "Jury of Appeal," then there is NOBODY with the authority to disqualify him. So no matter how badly he may have broken the USATF rules, and no matter how much we complain about this, Rossi will always be right.

Except for that part of the waiver that says the race director can disqualify anyone for any reason with no appeal and no recourse.

'more to the point . . .', please STFU, please!

This is hard to watch considering the fraud committed by MR and actually thinking he belonged on the starting line at Hopkinton.

translating the french article:

Pour LetsRun.com, il est indéniable que Mike Rossi a triché d’une façon ou d’une autre pour obtenir le dossard de Boston dont il rêvait depuis 2013. Le site propose de faire un don de 1000$ à l’oeuvre de charité du choix de Rossi si il a le courage d’admettre sa faute…

It is very clear for LR that Mike Rossi cheated, one way or another, to obtain a bib for Boston -- a race he dreamed of participating since 2013. The website is saying they will donate 1000 bucks to a charity of MR's choice if he admits he cheated.

Personnellement, je ne sais pas si Mike a triché ou pas, mais il est vrai qu’il y a beaucoup d’éléments qui permettent de mettre en doute sa performance sur le Via Marathon!

Personally, I don't know if Mike cheated or not, but there are plenty of elements that make his LVM performance dodgy.

"Your" welcome.

'hmmmmmm', have you noticed I'm the only one who's replied to your posts about some of Ken's previous quotes?, no one gives a flying fvck so, please STFU, please!