The only thing that can exonerate him is the GPS file or at least his splits.
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Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?
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A GPS might have been more convincing a week or so ago, unless the data can be verified as authentic by an independent party (or this site).
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p00pbreathbillionaire wrote:
Even if Rossi finds GPS data from a runner with similar times and passes it off as his own-- when we cross reverence the times with when he should have passed in front of photographers and Rossi is ghost, then what? It would be self-incriminating evidence from Mike himself.
For this reason, I encourage Mike to submit his best attempt at a doctored GPS log, which somehow accounts for missing EVERY photographer along the course. It would take a genius to do this-- id be impressed.
I did not think of that.
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Suddenly Rosie can't find the gps track.
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hey check me out in that Philly Mag comments thread:
https://disqus.com/by/ppabootsquadvinnie/
I'm so clever
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A week or so ago? Crazily, this thread is only 3 days old. LRC works fast.
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Mike Rossi's Worst Nightmare wrote:
Mike old friend, it's time to come clean, if you don't it's only going to getting bigger and bigger and start affecting your family and everyone around you. If you think things are bad now it's nothing to what's coming, especially when major TV and other media really pick up on it.
You've dug yourself a deep hole and you're just about to get hit over the head multiple times with shovel you used to dig it. Your worst nightmare is about to begin.
I think you're right about that. The thing is, Boston has always been sanctified for runners--the folks here, for example--but in the aftermath of the bombing, it's become sanctified for the general public. When Meb won it, he double-sanctified it. Now the trial is going on. The Boston Marathon is sacred ground, much as is the old World Trade Center location.
Mike's initial story, a slapback at his kids' principal, gained so much instant traction precisely because the principal was supposed to know that Bosdton was now sacred ground: a place where children can be instructed in heroism, the meaning of American citizenship, the agon of the serious athlete (aka, "Dad"), etc. Family AND national values.
What Rossi has done by cheating on his BQ is commit sacrilege--not just in the eyes of the serious runnerfolk here, but in the eyes of the general public. The general public is just about to come on strong when this story blows up big, and it WILL blow up big.
Mike: you need a Plan B, and quickly. The deny, deny, deny thing isn't going to work.
I've got a 9-year old son. I love him very much, and I believe that he looks up to me. If and when I made a very big mistake, one that took my into the Dark Side, I hope and pray I'd find the inner strength to admit what I'd done--to my kid as well as the public--and apologize for it.
Funny thing: people hate liars, but they're surprisingly accepting of people who frankly admit that they've f-cked up.
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Some of us have had data on this case for at least a week, or more. BAA was informed about this well more than 3 days ago.
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Excellent synopsis. I hope he reads your post and comes clean.
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ilanarama wrote:
The bit of this interview/response (which he'd posted elsewhere, right?) that boggles me is this:
Rossi said the answer to that [his race times not lining up] is simple: he didn’t try very hard in any of his 20 other races. “I focused my training to peak for the LV race in order to hopefully qualify for Boston,” he said.
But...but...then why would you jog 5K races? A hard 5K is a great workout! A hard half marathon is an excellent LT workout for a marathon. And his Athlinks races being discussed are in March through July, for a September race. A little early to worry about peaking. It just doesn't add up.
I would personally be dubious of any GPS tracks he releases. As discussed before, they're falsifiable.
He also clearly cares about his racing times. From the cache of his hidden blog a May 21, 2014 entry:
I trained all year (2013) for the Philadelphia Marathon, all the while thinking that just because I was running more miles I would be able to handle the load. What I failed to realize was that in addition to increasing my miles, I needed to get stronger.
The result? I hurt my IT Band just a few weeks prior to the Philly Marathon. I was devastated. I had been training all year for the marathon and didn't know at that point if I'd be able to run it.
I went to an orthopedic specialist who diagnosed me with IT Band Syndrome (Runner's Knee) and sent me to a PT who stretched, foam-rolled and iced me to the point that I could run the race.
I was told that I really couldn't do any more damage by running but the pain made it very difficult.
However, there was no way I wasn't running in that marathon! So I managed as best I could, popped some Advil (and Tylenol) and went for it. My knee felt OK , until mile 3 when the pain kicked in. I was fortunate just to be able to finish the race.
Following that experience I made it my mission to find out why I had this pain and to do everything I could to make sure I didn't have this problem again.
After a few weeks recovering from the marathon, I started back on a new plan that consisted of running and strength training, specifically to build up the strength in my thighs, quads and glutes.
I incorporated squats, leg presses and a lot of stretching, and started doing these after EVERY run.
The result? A complete recovery and ZERO IT Band pain. And I have increased my mileage significantly, running 2 half marathons, a 10 miler and a 5 miler all since March 30.
I know a lot of runners dread weight training, but let me tell you it has been a godsend for me. I make sure to do these exercises AFTER my runs and the results have been remarkable. My speed has increased tremendously. I PR'd by 6 minutes in both the half marathon and the Broad Street Run (10 miler), and just last weekend won my age group in a 5 miler.
Those PR's are his 1:40:44 half in March 2014 and the 1:14:48 10 miler on May 4th.
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Very well written.
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Chebychev yet again wrote:
Some of us have had data on this case for at least a week, or more. BAA was informed about this well more than 3 days ago.
And info was withheld till Monday, shame, shame, shame, I thought LRC was all family.
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Did anyone tell Hilton Hotels to rescind their offer of 2 free nights for Rossi?
https://twitter.com/HiltonHotels/status/593873597241774080
@mikerossi22 We saw your story. We also believe you should go where textbooks can't. We'd like to gift you 2 free nights! Please DM us.
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I'm new here, and only recently learned about the site. Frankly, I was just pleased to see other people had information.
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And who doesn't try hard in 20 races out of 20? 2 out of 20, okay, 5 out of 20, maybe even 10 out of 20, but what runner with any sort of goals (such as BQing) shows up, pays an entry fee, and then jogs every single race they run?
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klsdjjfklsd wrote:
NotABQer wrote:
Mike, if you are following this thread, do the right thing.
No, here's how this plays out. Rosie Rossi's supposed MRI results for his supposed knee injury will come back Monday, as he claims on Facebook. And, miraculously, his knee problem will turn out to be a career-ending injury, so Rosie will never race again.
Isn't that what Alix Fiada said to avoid racing?
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Strangely, this the most addicting thread i've ever encountered and i cannot stop coming back to it ever 5 minutes to see if any more smoking guns have been uncovered.
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deadlegged wrote:
Strangely, this the most addicting thread i've ever encountered and i cannot stop coming back to it ever 5 minutes to see if any more smoking guns have been uncovered.
Same here. I've read every single post!
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I love this thread! I'm trapped in a crummy hotel in a blah city in a backwater part of Mexico. The internet here runs at about dialup speed, I can't get any sites to load that are graphics intense, but text-based Letsrun loads just fine. And this thread has provided a lot of entertainment on a rainy day. You guys rock.
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sorry buddy times up wrote:
I've done the full marathon and the relay numerous times (including last year...I ran the last three relay legs...leg "three" for my team and the final two to get a long run in). It had never occurred to me how easy it is to cheat at via, but frankly, it's a cheaters dream. The relay exchanges are completely chaotic and people are coming and going in cars all over the place. The race is rather disorganized too. Last year they didn't have bibs for our entire relay team, so only the first and last relay members had bibs on (making the rest of us look like bandits but not one person said anything).
Anyway, one thing that stood out in his FB rant is his claim that "much of the course is downhill." The course profile drops less than 200 feet over the first 5 miles and then is very flat. The most logical explanation is that he ran 6.2 miles to the first relay exchange (the only downhill portion of the entire marathon) and then drove to the final relay exchange and ran the final 3+ miles to the finish. Since he didn't run "the middle" he really has no idea that this downhill course of which he speaks really isn't.
http://www.viamarathon.org/event_info/course/elevation_marathon_relay.phpThis sounds plausible, he seems to have carried out this con trick alone. Parks car at first relay change in plenty of time to walk to the start, ducks off course at the same relay change (lot of relay runners ducking off/on so won't be conspicuous), drives to final relay change, ducks back in (same MO as first change), runs to finish, walks back to car, home to loving wife and kids and adulation of his radio fans, etc.
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Plausible wrote:
This sounds plausible, he seems to have carried out this con trick alone. Parks car at first relay change in plenty of time to walk to the start, ducks off course at the same relay change (lot of relay runners ducking off/on so won't be conspicuous), drives to final relay change, ducks back in (same MO as first change), runs to finish, walks back to car, home to loving wife and kids and adulation of his radio fans, etc.
This is a really plausible theory. I haven't looked at the start photo. Does he look sweaty at all, like he could have walked/jogged 10k?
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