Official 2017 Monaco DL Discussion Thread - Oh baby what a meet

best race wrote:

sc42 wrote:

Women's 800, best race I've seen in ages. Damn.

Yup. Best race if you enjoy watching she-males and dopers that were caught doping but not suspended..

Maybe for the top 3. But some really good times for Hasan, Bishop, and those coming in after them. This was a GREAT race for even the clean females.

fan of da sport wrote:

let's talk about hassan

off the back at 200m

pretty big move around 350 to get back into the race

baggiest jersey ive ever seen

156.81

has anyone ever broken 1:57 and 15:00 in the same season? 1:57 and 14:45?

Genzebe Dibaba ran an unofficial 1:56.9 final 800 in the 1500m final in 2015, the same year she ran 14:15 for 5000m.

Oh, and she ran 3:50 for 1500m.

Damn. What a run from Wilson. I also think this proves Caster isn't capable of much faster, and certainly couldn't touch Jelimo in 2008. Like others have stated it seems the big three really top out at the level of strong state level 800 meter runners. Maybe if caster dropped some muscle mass she could get down to 1:54 mid, she certainly is bulky.

HipNo wrote:

Rotich the Rotich wrote:

Can anyone give me any reasonable evidence that the top 4 guys in that 400 aren't doping?

I'd like to believe in Van Niekerk and Makwala, but they're both too suspicious, especially seeing how much "talent" their countries have suddenly been producing.

What a dumb question. Of course nobody can give you evidence. There is no such thing as "evidence" that someone ISN'T doping.

So you're telling me the odds that anyone is doping is always significantly greater than the odds they aren't... what a dumb answer. I'm asking for context or insight on their progression and general credibility.

CDA wrote:

fan of da sport wrote:

let's talk about hassan

off the back at 200m

pretty big move around 350 to get back into the race

baggiest jersey ive ever seen

156.81

has anyone ever broken 1:57 and 15:00 in the same season? 1:57 and 14:45?

Genzebe Dibaba ran an unofficial 1:56.9 final 800 in the 1500m final in 2015, the same year she ran 14:15 for 5000m.

Oh, and she ran 3:50 for 1500m.

so what you're saying is that she ran slower than hassan, with a rolling start?

Pretty lame Mens 800 field.

Ugleee wrote:

observer_of_things wrote:

new Canadian record also for Bishop

Yeah, but the freak-o married a black guy. Wonder how bad her breath smells..

Source?

CDA wrote:

fan of da sport wrote:

let's talk about hassan

off the back at 200m

pretty big move around 350 to get back into the race

baggiest jersey ive ever seen

156.81

has anyone ever broken 1:57 and 15:00 in the same season? 1:57 and 14:45?

Genzebe Dibaba ran an unofficial 1:56.9 final 800 in the 1500m final in 2015, the same year she ran 14:15 for 5000m.

Oh, and she ran 3:50 for 1500m.

Yes, but the 1:56 was with a running start, so that's probably worth 1:59 or 2:00.

fan of da sport wrote:

let's talk about hassan

off the back at 200m

pretty big move around 350 to get back into the race

baggiest jersey ive ever seen

156.81

has anyone ever broken 1:57 and 15:00 in the same season? 1:57 and 14:45?

Paced by veteran Huandi Zhong, Wang reached the halfway mark in 15:05.69, on even pace to break Kristansen's 30:13 WR. Running well within herself however, Wang would quickly seperate herself from Zhong and unleash her trademark second-half kick.

Recording consistent km splits in the 2:50 range, Wang would cover the next 5000m in an incredible 14:26, 11 seconds quicker than the then-world record. Even more astonishing would be her final 3000m, covered in a scarcely believable 8:17.5, over 5 seconds ahead of Tatyana Kanankina's 9 year mark of 8:22. With a 64 second final lap, Wang crossed the line in a historic 29:31.78, breaking Kristansen's WR by 42 seconds and becoming the first athlete to break the iconic 30 minute barrier - and by a significant margin. The final km was covered in 2:46.99

It would take 15 years - at the Beijing Olympics suitably enough - for another athlete to break 30 minutes and come within 30 seconds of Wang's record. The record still stands by 23 seconds.

A week later at the same meet Wang would set the current 3000m world record of 8:06.11 (4:07/3:59 1.5k splits). She reportedly ran a marathon a day, running between 180-200 miles per week.

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no problem for this "chick" to finish a 5 k of 14:45 in 1:57

Dear Track Gods,

I know it's unlikely, but please let Evan Jager run under 8:00 in the steeplechase today.

I'll never ask for any track performance again and....if you want to end track and field entirely after he does that, I won't even mind.

Sincerely,

Wouldn't it be great

9sdfsda wrote:

Pretty lame Mens 800 field.

korir and tuka in there...

YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY... I HAVE SPOKEN

three thousand meters w/ jumps wrote:

Dear Track Gods,

I know it's unlikely, but please let Evan Jager run under 8:00 in the steeplechase today.

I'll never ask for any track performance again and....if you want to end track and field entirely after he does that, I won't even mind.

Sincerely,

Wouldn't it be great

YOU MIGHT GET LUCKY... I HAVE SPOKEN

horse calculator wrote:

CDA wrote:

Genzebe Dibaba ran an unofficial 1:56.9 final 800 in the 1500m final in 2015, the same year she ran 14:15 for 5000m.

Oh, and she ran 3:50 for 1500m.

Yes, but the 1:56 was with a running start, so that's probably worth 1:59 or 2:00.

Haha-- no. No way you take off two seconds for a running start. Like one. And when you consider she has run 700m meters before starting and the fact she danced the final 20m, I bet she was in 1:55 shape.

9sdfsda wrote:

Pretty lame Mens 800 field.

yeah yeah 1:43.12 that was pretty lame wasn't it man

TRACK GODS wrote:

9sdfsda wrote:

Pretty lame Mens 800 field.

yeah yeah 1:43.10 that was pretty lame wasn't it man

correction.

Rotich the Rotich wrote:

HipNo wrote:

There is no such thing as "evidence" that someone ISN'T doping.

So you're telling me the odds that anyone is doping is always significantly greater than the odds they aren't... what a dumb answer.

jfc... what a massive education fail.

but did she tho?

WTFBBQ wrote:

scorpion_runner wrote:

What?

Brenda looked good, but got trapped in the middle after moving up with Wilson. She was gamed, but tried to get out of the middle, but got tripped or pushed off a little.

She looked good to me.

She started falling back really badly on the backstretch, I'm wondering if something happened. She looked off at that point but strong elsewhere.

I don't know it looked like she got shoved or tripped with about 120 left and it took away a lot of her momentum.