Did Jane Hedengren make a HUGE MISTAKE by running regionals too hard?

I fear she ran too hard wrote:

007run wrote:

It's only Jane's 3rd race of the season. There is no way she is close to being cooked. She's going to taper and blow the doors off everything at nationals. The scary thing is her reserved "not all out" effort today is still good enough to beat anyone in the NCAA right now. I think when we see her truly go "all out" next week, it's going to be something really special to witness.

It only takes one overly exerted prelim to hurt someone's performance in a final. Seen it so many times.

Message to the juvenile who keeps registering my user name. I can keep slightly altering my user name so you're wasting your time. I'm smarter than you.

VIPAM wrote:

People are overlooking the fact that Doris' M.O. is run as hard as needed to win. Doris has a ferocious kick and often doesn't take the lead until inside the last kilometer; therefore, her winning margins are deceptive**. Jane likes to hammer from the start and break her competitors. It's possible Jane probably can break Doris but we won't know until the winner crosses the finish line. But it's equally possible Doris haven't shown her best because she MAINLY runs as hard as her main opposition and then goes for the win.

**Jane and Doris employs two different types of tactics and their margins of victory in other races don't actually tell us much because of that difference. YES I MOST DEFINITELY want Jane H. to win but I wouldn't be 💯% shocked if Doris L. wins.

XC guy wrote:

Pamela always runs with a grimace. I think she will be much more competitive next week. That being said, Jane and Doris are the clear favorites. Hard to count out the NCAA record holder in the 10k though. Should be fun.

VIPAM wrote:

People are overlooking the fact that Doris' M.O. is run as hard as needed to win. Doris has a ferocious kick and often doesn't take the lead until inside the last kilometer; therefore, her winning margins are deceptive**. Jane likes to hammer from the start and break her competitors. It's possible Jane probably can break Doris but we won't know until the winner crosses the finish line. But it's equally possible Doris haven't shown her best because she MAINLY runs as hard as her main opposition and then goes for the win.

**Jane and Doris employs two different types of tactics and their margins of victory in other races don't actually tell us much because of that difference. YES I MOST DEFINITELY want Jane H. to win but I wouldn't be 💯% shocked if Doris L. wins.

I fear she ran too hard wrote:

JohnR wrote:

OK, I just watched the race. Jane cruised, start to finish.. That race had zero effect on her ability to come back next week at nationals. It was a glorified workout.

Check Jane's splits. She got slower each 2k loop. She was barely hanging on.

I fear NothinG wrote:

I fear she ran too hard wrote:

Check Jane's splits. She got slower each 2k loop. She was barely hanging on.

Based on the subject, you've got to be one of the most ignorant posters that I've ever come across on these boards...and you won't be back when she wins. Have you ever broken 21 for 5k?

I fear she did wrote:

Regional races are nothing more than prelims. Experienced runners like Pamela Kosgei know the goal is to advance with as little effort as possible. Kosgei held back because she was in a secure position and she knew her team was likely to qualify for nattys.

Jane Hedengren made the typical freshman mistake of running hard in a prelim. No reason to run as hard as she did. Completely unnecessary. She will probably pay for this mistake at natty next weekend.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

Ragebaittastic wrote:

I fear she did wrote:

Regional races are nothing more than prelims. Experienced runners like Pamela Kosgei know the goal is to advance with as little effort as possible. Kosgei held back because she was in a secure position and she knew her team was likely to qualify for nattys.

Jane Hedengren made the typical freshman mistake of running hard in a prelim. No reason to run as hard as she did. Completely unnecessary. She will probably pay for this mistake at natty next weekend.

Don't say I didn't warn you.

8/10 Well done 👍 quite a few did bite.

Jane will win NCAA wrote:

Jane will win NCAA wrote:

Exactly. She has run three races since June 22 @ Nike Outdoor Nationals. People were screaming, "She should run USATFs!" but she didn't. She rested and recovered from her high school career. Three races in five months is not going to overcook anybody.

To add to this, Sadie Engelhardt has run four cross country races this season. She also ran two events at New Balance Nationals (800m and mile) on June 22, the 1500 @ Sound Running Sunset Tour on July 12, and 800m and 1500m @ the Stumptown Twilight on July 19, the 1500m @ USATFs on August 3, and the Sir Walter Miler on August 8.

That's 9 races since June 22, compared to Hedengren's 3 races.

What race did you watch? wrote:

Kosgei didn't "hold back." Did you see the look on her face? Either she's a great thespian, or that gal was hurting. I'm saying that as someone who was maybe two feet away as she ran past. She absolutely fell apart over the last 2k.