Covid Death Odds: Are You In The 99.99% Group?

crackerjack wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

These are facts- anyone can look it up.

The facts are that BO voted against the war when he was in the Senate. He also pulled the troops out of Iraq, for which he was criticized by Repubs, including Trump.

You can criticize BO for a lot of things but he inherited 2 wars upon entering office that he had not supported.

Yep, and started five more.

The Unkle wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

These are facts- anyone can look it up.

Biden may have made that claim but I think we all know it was drafted by Neo-cons.

And who was on display at the DNC? The neo-cons.

If you, or anybody else, can't see the the neo-cons and Democrats are on the same team, I can't help you anymore than I have tried.

This is what I find so perplexing about my liberal friends... everything they used to claim to be against, they are now blindly (some willingly) all in. They claimed to be against the wars, but total support for the war-monger former adminstrtion. They used to claim they were against the Patriot Act, but couldn't see that their elected officials were pushing it the hardest. They used to claim to be against mega-corporations, but are completely on board with the global corporate/political takeover. They claim to be tolerant and open-minded, yet are all-in on destroying the ability to debate opinions and facts.

We're in the Twilight Zone, and the D party has turned into the roaming programmed zombies doing the work of everything they used to claim they were against.

The Unkle... I'm not referring to you when I say "my liberal friends". You do a good job. Just clearing that up :)

Allen53 wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgTKdH_XYAsxs-4?format=jpg&name=900x900

link to the study?

And the GOP doesn't check all those boxes too?

At least the Dems show they can do basic arithmetic so support free(er) trade an immigration

WWRD wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgTKdH_XYAsxs-4?format=jpg&name=900x900

link to the study?

Your kidding right?

If you can't find this study then your research skills are non-existent.

Hint: Look at the bottom of the chart and use your google.

I just started laughing when I read your comment. Are you really this lazy?

Obvi wrote:

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Yes it is. It is true. The US is doing just fine. Go to your local grocery store and see how many people are there, walking around and going about their business. Yes they are wearing masks (more out of social obligation rather than disease prevention), but the entire country is still having BBQs, driving around, getting gas, going to the park, frequenting wal mart.

So, you are saying that 122,000 deaths outside of the Northeast is "doing just fine."

Got it.

It was less of an invitation to discuss numbers and more to point out the hypocrisy of the fear mongerers. They yell and scream on SO.ME about covid being the next bubonic plague, creating the impression that people are coughing up blood and dying on the streets....

Yet they still rent boats for summer parties, fly across the country for booty calls, have BBQs in their back yards, go to the grocery store, (oh! And dont forget their filthy loser trips to the weed dispensaries!) and maintain practically 100% of their normal lifestyle.

Pure hypocrisy.

P.s. SOME is short for Social Media

Bullet_Proof wrote:

It was less of an invitation to discuss numbers and more to point out the hypocrisy of the fear mongerers. They yell and scream on SO.ME about covid being the next bubonic plague, creating the impression that people are coughing up blood and dying on the streets....

Yet they still rent boats for summer parties, fly across the country for booty calls, have BBQs in their back yards, go to the grocery store, (oh! And dont forget their filthy loser trips to the weed dispensaries!) and maintain practically 100% of their normal lifestyle.

Pure hypocrisy.

P.s. SOME is short for Social Media

Sorry this kind of class-baiting doesn't fly on LRC. We all make 250k+

99% of the population probably thinks their diet and exercise level is okay. They may admit it could be better.

99% of the population probably thinks their weight is okay other than maybe wanting to drop the 5 to 20 lbs they never seem to be able to drop.

The problem is that 40% or more of the adult US population is obese. A large percentage of the obese are morbidly obese. They take in way too many calories and exercise little if any other than walking to their cars. The food they eat that is typically not healthy.

If we look at the data for specific groups you will see that 56% of adult black women are obese.

That is the subgroup the CDC lists with the highest obesity rate.

Many adults in any age group have other comorbidities such as hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, lung disease, kidney disease.

So a large percentage of the adult US population will not be part of the 99.9% from the original posting.

I forgot to add that surviving Covid-19 is one thing but surviving it with no damage is another. Those put on a ventilator may have permanent organ or other damage. Even some that were asymptomatic may have permanent damage. Medical experts won't know for sure maybe for years. Anyone on a ventilator for any reason my suffer permanent, negative, health effects. Long periods on a ventilator may cause even more damage. Everyone just keeps point to low deaths rates as death is the only bad outcome. They ignore possible permanent organ or other damage the may reduce quality of life forever and may reduce expected life expectancy.

old news wrote:

WFH mileage wrote:

Yes, but my parents aren’t. I think they want to see their grandchildren grow up.

And do they also want the lives of the other 99.9 to be shutdown just so they can see their grandkids grow up???

A very very American argument. No one else, anywhere, says this with the regularity of Americans (who tend to go for a particular party).

barney23 wrote:

old news wrote:

And do they also want the lives of the other 99.9 to be shutdown just so they can see their grandkids grow up???

A very very American argument. No one else, anywhere, says this with the regularity of Americans (who tend to go for a particular party).

In every thread it will eventually get to "well, death isn't really that bad" from these guys. Just wait.

Allen53 wrote:

WWRD wrote:

link to the study?

Your kidding right?

If you can't find this study then your research skills are non-existent.

Hint: Look at the bottom of the chart and use your google.

I just started laughing when I read your comment. Are you really this lazy?

Allen, I actually tried to find it on Stockholm University, but wasn't successful, thought you'd have it handy. I would like to share it, and understand the background on it. That is all.

WWRD wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

Your kidding right?

If you can't find this study then your research skills are non-existent.

Hint: Look at the bottom of the chart and use your google.

I just started laughing when I read your comment. Are you really this lazy?

Allen, I actually tried to find it on Stockholm University, but wasn't successful, thought you'd have it handy. I would like to share it, and understand the background on it. That is all.

Here is the original study. It took about a minute to find. The table Allen53 posted is converted from the table on page 4. Keep in mind that these are predicted fatality rates based on a model. Also, note that he only reported the data for highly developed countries (HIC), where mortality rates are much lower. It's worth reading the original study to understand the underlying assumptions and measurement of the probabilities before taking these numbers at face value.

Here is the download link: