Hold on just a minute, I need to put a bag of Orval Redenbacher's in the microwave.
Hold on just a minute, I need to put a bag of Orval Redenbacher's in the microwave.
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:
I'd like everyone to know that I received a cease and desist later Thursday around 6 PM. In order to comply with the C&D I am not permitted to discuss the subject of the letter. So you will have to make some educated guesses as to whom I am referring to.
Having some legal job experience in my past I can tell you that everyone should stay calm and carry on. A cease and desist is nothing more than an intimidation tactic. It's akin to one child telling another, "If you don't stop I'm telling my dad."
The timing of the letter, only 4 hours after the Brojo's released their article, is clearly a sign that it is an attempt to stop me from spending word of that article via social media. In fact, it specifically demands that I "ceased and desist from any further social media posts or other communications involving my client and/or his family." So, that is the reason why I am not posting under my registered username and instead have chosen the model of my favorite guitar.
The letter claims that I am attempting to damage somebody's reputation in order to damage his business and gain a competitive advantage. Which I find funny since I doubt married couples read this forum. I made it clear in my reply that a certain person posted negative comments to both my Facebook business pages before I even know about this forum. I also suggested that this lawyer may want to find out more about what his client is doing online before he decides to sue anybody or he may be facing up to a half dozen countersuits. The letter also claims that I have attempted to "malign his marriage".
I'd like to note that there is no mention of the company that this person works for - just the non-existant one that he claims to own. There is also absolutely no mention of any comments I may have made with regards to cheating.
The lawyer that it came from just so happens to be a Facebook friend of the subject.
Although this issue is not over, I have faith in the Brojo's article and the running community's ability to have it go viral and get the final result that is so well deserved and overdue. I have not been silenced.
Post the letter or it didn't happen. You can redact the names.
Fireworks coming and apparently will be spectacular. And real butter on that popcorn, none of that rossied stuff.
Popcorn eater wrote:
Hold on just a minute, I need to put a bag of Orval Redenbacher's in the microwave.
Bruce Wayne: So why was Kenny posting?
Alfred Pennyworth: Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Post It Note wrote:
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:I'd like everyone to know that I received a cease and desist later Thursday around 6 PM. In order to comply with the C&D I am not permitted to discuss the subject of the letter. So you will have to make some educated guesses as to whom I am referring to.
Having some legal job experience in my past I can tell you that everyone should stay calm and carry on. A cease and desist is nothing more than an intimidation tactic. It's akin to one child telling another, "If you don't stop I'm telling my dad."
The timing of the letter, only 4 hours after the Brojo's released their article, is clearly a sign that it is an attempt to stop me from spending word of that article via social media. In fact, it specifically demands that I "ceased and desist from any further social media posts or other communications involving my client and/or his family." So, that is the reason why I am not posting under my registered username and instead have chosen the model of my favorite guitar.
The letter claims that I am attempting to damage somebody's reputation in order to damage his business and gain a competitive advantage. Which I find funny since I doubt married couples read this forum. I made it clear in my reply that a certain person posted negative comments to both my Facebook business pages before I even know about this forum. I also suggested that this lawyer may want to find out more about what his client is doing online before he decides to sue anybody or he may be facing up to a half dozen countersuits. The letter also claims that I have attempted to "malign his marriage".
I'd like to note that there is no mention of the company that this person works for - just the non-existant one that he claims to own. There is also absolutely no mention of any comments I may have made with regards to cheating.
The lawyer that it came from just so happens to be a Facebook friend of the subject.
Although this issue is not over, I have faith in the Brojo's article and the running community's ability to have it go viral and get the final result that is so well deserved and overdue. I have not been silenced.
Post the letter or it didn't happen. You can redact the names.
A couple others have seen it. They can confirm.
I don't want confirmation, I want to actually read it. At a minimum post the lawyer's name.
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:
Post It Note wrote:Post the letter or it didn't happen. You can redact the names.
A couple others have seen it. They can confirm.
We missed you buddy!
Folks - In honor of Ken, we must not cease and desist!!
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:
Post It Note wrote:Post the letter or it didn't happen. You can redact the names.
A couple others have seen it. They can confirm.
Stop being a bitch ken. Post under your normal name and let Mike sue you.
You are scared of Mike.
If you know a cease and desist letter is worthless then why are you complying?
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:
Post It Note wrote:Post the letter or it didn't happen. You can redact the names.
A couple others have seen it. They can confirm.
I've seen it. I confirm it is real.
(I'm not using my real name either)
Stop whining ken wrote:
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:A couple others have seen it. They can confirm.
Stop being a bitch ken. Post under your normal name and let Mike sue you.
You are scared of Mike.
If you know a cease and desist letter is worthless then why are you complying?
I thought it would be funnier that way.
But to prove I am not a troll, my Facebook profile pic is now my 1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T. Pretty sweet, isn't it?
This message board isn't going away Mike. My advice is to lay low and not try to agitate the public anger even more. By now you should be feeling pretty comfortable being scrutinized with every social media post you make. Just wait until your "injury" is healed and you start racing again.
Doubler wrote:
Ken, in the last few pages you've stated your opinions of Mike as fact. I'd be careful. he can't sue us for calling him a cheater because it's true. But you've made comments about him being fit as a parent, his mental state, and previously commented on his marriage. Much of this you stated as being a fact- not your opinion. You've also brought up other names of people associated with Mike but completely irrelevant to this topic.
You should stop posting here unless you truly have something new directly related to Mike's time at Lehigh Valley. Don't respond to the personal stuff and don't bring Mike's wife, kids, or job. all that is irrelevant noise. You will only hurt yourself.
How fcking true was this shit Ken?
LoserMikeRossi wrote:
You are not really Ken wrote:If you are who you say you are post video within the next 24 hours to YouTube of a wedding MR is a DJ at and link to it here. Not a link already posted. The clock is ticking you have 23 hours to post a 30 second clip.
I say you can't do it because you are not even Stillman. You are a masterful troll but the gig is up.
I have to prove I'm really Ken?
I don't keep videos handy and document when and where I worked with certain DJ's. And the last time I worked with Mike was at one of the weddings where I filled in for East Coast when they were shorthanded, so it's not my footage to post, and that would be a violation of copyright laws.
I don't know the exact date or hall. If it was one of my gigs I'd still have it documented. But it was in 2013.
But I can tell you the wedding that caused us to have a fallout was on July 4th, 2014 in Richboro, PA. That should be enough proof for you.
ONLY REASON YOU'RE HERE POSTING - NOT MARATHON CHEATING THAT IS FOR SURE!
LoserKenStillman wrote:
LoserMikeRossi wrote:I have to prove I'm really Ken?
I don't keep videos handy and document when and where I worked with certain DJ's. And the last time I worked with Mike was at one of the weddings where I filled in for East Coast when they were shorthanded, so it's not my footage to post, and that would be a violation of copyright laws.
I don't know the exact date or hall. If it was one of my gigs I'd still have it documented. But it was in 2013.
But I can tell you the wedding that caused us to have a fallout was on July 4th, 2014 in Richboro, PA. That should be enough proof for you.
ONLY REASON YOU'RE HERE POSTING - NOT MARATHON CHEATING THAT IS FOR SURE!
Hi Mike, you cheating prick! All in my humble opinion, of course.
LoserMikeRossi wrote:
actually no you don't wrote:Actually you made it hard to make a living when you took thousands of dollars from people and avoided them like the plague when they tried to get a hold of you.
You always say "Mike started it" well that may be a good excuse for a 4 year old but not if you are grown man . . . I am also interest in why you started posting here. Was it because you care about marathons or because you have a personal beef with Mike? If it was the latter, which is was, then you made it personal the minute you started blabbering here.
Go run a 5k and come back . . . you might get some more sympathy from us.
I started posting here because it's a free country and there are no rules to this forum. And there's no proof that you are a runner either.
If I thought I could get Mike DQ'd on a DJ forum I'd be there instead. But he didn't cheat at DJing, did he?
KEN YOU ARE ONLY HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BEEF WITH MICHAEL ROSSI - NOT BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT MARATHON CHEATING.
YOU STARTED BEING A DJ AT WEDDINGS ONCE YOU STARTED POSTING HERE ABOUT MICHAEL ROSSI. YOU'VE DONE NOTHING BUT TRY TO GET REVENGE SO YOU CAN GET BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF YOUR SHATTERED WEDDING VIDEO SCAM.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT RUNNING. NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL. YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MARATHON CHEATING. NOPE. YOU HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY DECEIVED PEOPLE FOR YEARS AND NOW YOU TRY TO GET PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE HERE, JUST LIKE YOU TRIED TO GET SYMPATHY BY FALSELY CLAIMING BULLSHIT EXCUSES FOR YEARS WHILE TAKING PEOPLE'S MONEY.
YOU SAID IF YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD GET MIKE DQ'ED ON A DJ FORUM YOU'D BE THERE INSTEAD.
ALL YOU WANT IS REVENGE AGAINST HIM. NOW YOU ARE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVED - A FIGHT WITH ANOTHER LOSER: THE HUMAN SHITBAG MICHAEL ROSSI.
YES YES YES!
there you go again wrote:
LoserMikeRossi wrote:Because making wedding videos isn't like making pizzas. Brides book weddings up to 2 years in advance. By the time I had issues I had many of the weddings already filmed. And while I could have slapped them together and gotten them out quicker I actually do have a mental illness called "perfectionism". Giving client a half-assed product is not something I could do. Because doing so would mean they wouldn't want to watch it.
Is it better to get a good product late or bad product fast? It's the difference between a filet mignon or a cheeseburger.
I have taken the time to bold words from your customers that show you systematically lie, give false excuses, and avoid them after they've paid you. I also like the comments on how you didn't have time to talk to them but had time to constantly update your blog.
1.0 star rating 1/11/2013
Please PLEASE PLEASE do not use this man for your video services. Just google his name and you will understand why others are saying the same. I booked him for a wedding in early 2011 and nothing. He never responds to your phone calls or emails. It's like a broken record but his #1 excuse - a family issue. Hey we all have family issues but we still have to work right? Stop taking on MORE clients and get caught up with those you've obviously neglected. He obviously has spare time in which he gets to update his blog rather frequently.
For those going through this horrible ordeal, the PA Attorney General has filed a suit against him. PLEASE take the time and file here: attorneygeneral.gov. You're not only helping yourself but others that have lost precious memories.
CBS did a report on it here:
philadelphia.cbslocal.co
1.0 star rating 7/31/2013
Only gave him 1 star because it was the lowest I could leave. We got married in September 2010, and were told we would have everything by March or April. After being ignored via email & the phone -he finally got back to us in June to tell us he wasnt done and since he wasn't Walmart - he didn't have to respond to us like customer service. Those were his exact words -I still have the email! It took us a whole year to receive the video and the mini dvd's that were supposed to be favors at the wedding reception didn't get made until after - so we had to mail those out as well! He was HORRIBLE!
1.0 star rating 7/19/2013
Please, pretty please do not use this man, he videotaped my wedding two years ago, and I still have not received the video!!! He is a cram artist.[sic]
1.0 star rating 12/16/2011
First to Review
Please avoid this business like the plague. We were married oct. 2010 and have not received our wedding video. After several attempts to contact this business we never received or heard anything. Then out of no where while watching TV we see him on CBS Philly with a couple that was married around the same time we were and yet they never received their wedding video either. Here's a link to that video philadelphia.cbslocal.co. Up until you meet him he's professional, well I should say his wife is because after we signed the contract, we never heard from him but it was always his wife. Ladies please if you're considering using him for Wedding Video Services please look else where. For more information just google "Kenneth Stillman Reviews" and you'll see alot of negativity in regards to getting back the finished product. I'm now looking into filing a small claims suit against him.
1.0 star rating 3/20/2012
We ran into the SAME EXACT issue! My husband & I just watched the CBS new story and couldn't believe how IDENTICAL our situation was. And Ken seems to be using the same excuse as before, "I have experienced family tragedies." We were married in June 2010, were promised our video in 26 weeks and did not receive it until end of February (after countless emails, phone calls, a visit to his home business and a complaint filed with the BBB). He stated he was backlogged THEN with family issues and tragedies. What a crock! I beg all brides not to use his services.
Systematic and pathological lying gets you nowhere Ken!
What a waste. wrote:
LoserMikeRossi wrote:Just thought I'd let everyone know that I posted the link to Barb McKeever's business page and paid $1 to get the article directly to her inbox on Facebook.
Because we all know if somebody "known" didn't do it Mike would post anonymously and claim he did it, and then, of course, not do it.
This is the receipt for paying the $1 to Facebook:
http://imgur.com/e09phOgKen, did you include the new evidence?, because if you didn't you've just wasted $1 that could have been donated to a worthwhile cause.
Mike Rossi could get $1000 donated by the brojos to a worthwhile cause right now. He just has to admit the truth.
What kind of person would actively deny a charity $1000, by withholding simply stating a true fact?
I know what I would do if the brojos offered to donate $1000 to charity if I would admit I had yogurt for breakfast today.
you are a fraud like Rossi wrote:
Wedding woes: South Jersey brides fear they'll never see the wedding videos they paid for
Jessica and John Healy spent $1,500 to capture their wedding day on film. Nearly two years later, they have yet to see the video they paid for.
“There's so many moments that you can’t capture (with still photography),” said Jessica, a Gloucester City resident.
Attracted by his “same-day edit” feature — a three-minute video edited on the spot and shown the day of the event — Healy hired Levittown-based Kenneth Stillman Video to videotape their October 2010 wedding.
“I did some research online, and he got horrible reviews, but I wanted to get his side of the story...because I really liked his work,” she said of owner Kenneth Stillman. “We met him and looked at more of his work, and he basically sold us on hiring him.” Healy added Stillman “made it seem like he was going to have a video within six months” — or at least by their first wedding anniversary.
Healy was so impressed by Stillman’s “amazing” same-day edit, she suggested his services to West Deptford resident Amy Morrell. According to Stillman’s website, the short video covers wedding preparations through the first dance. Guests can watch the video at the reception.
“I think I told her that he was slow but that it was worth it,” Healy said apologetically.
Morrell’s wedding is this August, and she said she has given Stillman about $600 toward his services. When Healy told her friend that Stillman wasn’t delivering, Morrell said she “gave him the opportunity” to admit he had too much on his plate. The women said Stillman told them both that, despite personal problems, he would be able to finish what he started.However, Morrell decided to hire another videographer and plans on ending her contract with Stillman “through a different route.”
“It’s a huge stress on me,” Morrell said. “I don’t want anybody else to be subjected to this guy because it’s not fair, it’s not fair what he does.”
“We’re going on 19 months (without receiving the video),” Healy said. “That is absurd.”
Though Stillman has no complaints filed against him with Gloucester County or Pennsylvania consumer affairs divisions, 32 people have filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau. Stillman has also been featured on CBS Philly late last year for failing to deliver video footage to another couple. When confronted on camera, he eventually did turn the tape over to the other couple.
Calls and emails to Stillman from South Jersey Sunday were not answered before press time. On the CBS clip, Stillman defended his late delivery.
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Jessica Healy, left, and Amy Morrell, right, review the contracts they both signed with wedding videographer, Kenneth Stillman. (Staff Photo by Joe Warner/Gloucester County Times.)
“I lost editing time, due to family tragedies,” he said. “Getting it in a year and having it look good so it’s something they can watch 50 years from now is more important than getting it in six months.”The contract Morrell and Healy said they signed states that Kenneth Stillman Video “will do its best” to complete the final video within 26 weeks. However, this is only an “approximate length of time” and if takes longer than that it will “not void this contract.”
“Reading these terms and conditions, it’s all about him,” said Gloucester County Consumer Affairs Director Hal Spence, who read the contract on Stillman’s website. “There’s nothing in there to protect the consumer.”
Spence said one “red flag” in the contract is the amount of money Stillman requires up-front. According to the document that Healy said was her contract, she was required to pay an initial deposit of $600, another $600 90 days before her wedding, and the balance on the day of her wedding.
Spence suggested that an optimal payment schedule is one-third up front, one-third during the contract and the balance after you’re satisfied with the product.
Further, Stillman offers no grace period for cancellations. Once a contract is signed, the terms and conditions read, the money he has, he keeps.
“To say no time and no money back, regardless, I just wouldn’t use him,” Spence said. “Who knows what’s going to come up?”
Finally, Spence said there should be a drop-dead deadline for when the work will be complete, not an approximate time.
“The problem is they have these couples over a barrel because they can’t reinvent the day,” Spence said. “I think people really need to look at a contract.”
Spence said Gloucester County residents who are about to sign a contract should always get a second opinion and can even call his office at 856-384-6855. Spence also suggests that anyone who is in a position similar to Healy should file a police report.
In Pennsylvania, Attorney General Press Secretary Nils Frederiksen suggests any consumers with issues similar to Morrell and Healy visit their website at
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/Complaints.aspx. Frederiksen said if a complaint is filed, one should provide as much documentation as possible, such as receipts or emails.
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2012/04/wedding_woes_brides_fear_theyl.html-------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 On Your Side Update: Pa. Attorney General Sues Wedding Videographer
By Susan Barnett
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — An update on a story 3 On Your Side has been telling you about for more than a year. We’ve received multiple complaints against a Pennsylvania wedding videographer. Now, the state attorney general is taking him to court.
Kenneth Stillman of Levittown has videotaped many weddings in his day, but multiple customers told 3 On Your Side he failed to deliver those videos.
“We would all love to see my grandparents together again,” one woman, Stacey Boytim, told us last year.
The couples each paid at least $1,500 for wedding videos they say still weren’t delivered more than 6 months later — until 3 On Your Side got involved.
Stillman told CBS 3’s Natasha Brown last November, “I lost editing time due to family tragedies. Getting this in a year and having it look good so it’s something they can watch 50 years from now is more important than getting it in six months and having it look like crap.”
He gave us some of the videos, but others never arrived. Complaints kept coming, so we talked to him again in May (see previous story).
“I got behind schedule,” Stillman said. “You know, I’m not a dishonest person.”
Now, the Pennsylvania Attorney General’s Office has filed suit, accusing Stillman of willfully breaking consumer protection law for at least 18 clients.
They say he failed to deliver videos from weddings as long ago as 2009 and gave customers “misleading, confusing or false information, explanations and excuses.” The attorney general is asking a judge to order Stillman to make full restitution and pay $1000 per violation.
Stillman emailed 3 On Your Side and said he never misled his clients. He wrote, “A series of unfortunate circumstances caused me to get behind schedule. All clients who are waiting on their videos should remain patient…as I am committed to completing each and every one.”
The attorney general says clients of Stillman who believe they are eligible for restitution can contact the Bureau of Consumer Protection at 1-800-441-2555 to file a complaint. Consumers with access to the Internet may file a complaint electronically at
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2012/11/20/3-on-your-side-update-pa-attorney-general-sues-wedding-videographer/-------------------------------------------------------------
Wedding Videographer Makes Settlement After 83 Consumer Complaints
A Middletown wedding videographer accused of failing to deliver wedding video products and services promised to and paid for by consumers has settled with the Office of Pennsylvania Attorney General.
Kenneth Stillman Jr. – who did business as Kenneth Stillman Video, 1970 Veterans Highway, Unit F-3, Levittown – reached the settlement recently after 83 complaints were filed by customers who paid Stillman and never received their videos.
A lawsuit filed in November 2012 by the attorney general’s office claimed contracts were signed between Stillman and consumers. The customers made “substantial payments” in exchange for videography.
According to the attorney general’s statement:
Stillman also allegedly failed to respond to consumers’ complaints, requests for status updates, requests for their videos and requests for refunds. Under the terms of the settlement, Stillman is required to:
Refrain from violating Pennsylvania’s Consumer Protection Law in the future;
Deliver to consumers any and all wedding videos in his possession that are outstanding; and
Pay restitution to eligible consumers as well as civil penalties to the Commonwealth.
Stillman had been marketing and selling wedding videography products and services since at least September 2005, according to court filings.
The agreement between Stillman and the attorney general’s office still needs to be approved by a Bucks County Court of Common Pleas judge, according to press release from the attorney general.
The Bureau of Consumer Protection is asking consumers who believe they have been victimized by these practices to file a complaint by calling 1-800-441-2555 or visiting
http://www.attorneygeneral.govor print a complaint form which can be mailed or faxed to the Attorney General’s Office.
http://levittownnow.com/2014/07/26/wedding-videographer-makes-settlement-after-83-consumer-complaints/--------------------------------------------------------
KEN=FRAUD
MIKE=FRAUD
More legal problems for scammer Ken Stillman?
What a surprise!!!
You and Mike should never have posted here.
You have a history of taking people's money and not giving them a product in return. You have been taking DJ work in the competing market that Rossi works in.
You and Mike are both liars and cheats.
CHERRY RED CARVIN = KENNETH STILLMAN VIDEOS
The Brojos should throw down another challenge, this one to Ken. 100K if he could break 5 hours in a marathon. Just like the Rossi challenge their money would be safe.
1984 Cherry Red Carvin DC200T wrote:
I'd like everyone to know that I received a cease and desist later Thursday around 6 PM. In order to comply with the C&D I am not permitted to discuss the subject of the letter. So you will have to make some educated guesses as to whom I am referring to.
You are talking about Mike Rossi and you are Ken Stillman, very easy to tell who you are and who you are talking about.
Having some legal job experience in my past I can tell you that everyone should stay calm and carry on. A cease and desist is nothing more than an intimidation tactic. It's akin to one child telling another, "If you don't stop I'm telling my dad."
Yet you are posting under a different name and are scared to talk about Mike. Good job staying calm and carrying on. Way to cover your ass Ken.
The timing of the letter, only 4 hours after the Brojo's released their article, is clearly a sign that it is an attempt to stop me from spending word of that article via social media. In fact, it specifically demands that I "ceased and desist from any further social media posts or other communications involving my client and/or his family." So, that is the reason why I am not posting under my registered username and instead have chosen the model of my favorite guitar.
Why is posting under your other username "LoserMikeRossi" a problem? You scared of his lawyer Ken? Maybe you shouldn't have been talking shit about his family this whole time like people here told you not to.
The letter claims that I am attempting to damage somebody's reputation in order to damage his business and gain a competitive advantage. Which I find funny since I doubt married couples read this forum. I made it clear in my reply that a certain person posted negative comments to both my Facebook business pages before I even know about this forum. I also suggested that this lawyer may want to find out more about what his client is doing online before he decides to sue anybody or he may be facing up to a half dozen countersuits. The letter also claims that I have attempted to "malign his marriage".
You have been damaging his reputation re business and mentioned his manager's name . . . inviting other people to email his manager from this site.
You are only here on this forum because Mike posted negative things about you on facebook. You found this forum and have been pretending to care about cheating ever since.
You also constantly talked shit about his wife's relationship with him. The letter is spot on.
I'd like to note that there is no mention of the company that this person works for - just the non-existant one that he claims to own. There is also absolutely no mention of any comments I may have made with regards to cheating.
Because there is no need to mention those comments - just the ones that are legally actionable for attempting to harm the company's business by personal attacks on this forum.
The lawyer that it came from just so happens to be a Facebook friend of the subject.
Although this issue is not over, I have faith in the Brojo's article and the running community's ability to have it go viral and get the final result that is so well deserved and overdue. I have not been silenced.
You can never be silenced, even when it is in your best interest. You keep flapping your fat mouth and this is what you get.
Ken we all know you are still here posting about Mike Rossi.
This is what you get for never caring about our sport. You wanted drama with Mike Rossi and that is what you got.
I wonder if you prior fraud can be used against you as impeachment evidence in court.
HI MIKE!