Eliud is now 38. He is no longer the best in the world. This is the reality. Maybe he can do 2:04 at Boston.
The above getting so many downvotes is because the majority of you morons cannot grasp how Father Time has never lost. So Eliud is facing an undefeated opponent. He cannot win.
Then they continued their onslaught of downvotes. They were so sure of themselves.
The above getting so many downvotes is because the majority of you morons cannot grasp how Father Time has never lost. So Eliud is facing an undefeated opponent. He cannot win.
Where was Father Time in Sept, 2022? He was nowhere to be seen. Why do you think 6 more months would matter now?
Ok, you think these past 6 months are an inflection point for him. I’d say that’s an absurd opinion when in his last race he DESTROYED the world record. Let’s talk about time catching up to him after he has a mediocre run, not after the fastest marathon in history.
A few of us are able to see it before it happens. We are almost never embraced. You shall see it soon.
We are downvoted like 86-1 when we post things that the brilliant mob disapproves of.
Why would 6 more months matter after that? How about 6 more? You cannot be serious.
Ok, you think these past 6 months are an inflection point for him. I’d say that’s an absurd opinion when in his last race he DESTROYED the world record. Let’s talk about time catching up to him after he has a mediocre run, not after the fastest marathon in history.
Are you ready to at least have this discussion oh wise one?
Classic LetsRun thread, got derailed into a weird food fight with people arguing over something that's impossible to know (at what point, inevitably, time will "catch up" with Kipchoge).
Has it happened? After today, I honestly don't know. Maybe? Has anyone heard from his camp? He also had that weird ear thing when he lost the Covid London Marathon a few years back, and clearly that wasn't the end of him.
Looking back to start of this thread, I think the person who mentioned how the downhills are what get you in Boston was really spot on. It's so true, and from what I could tell in the coverage from the leadup to the race, Kipchoge was not prepared for it.
The fact he took it out in 14:17 and led the whole first 15 miles or so also shows me he wasn't strategically ready. Perhaps it was hubris, or he didn't want to mess with training that's served him so well. Can't blame him for that.
But to me it looked like he thought he was doing any other marathon in the world, leading the pack, biding his time, waving his arm for others to take their turns at the front.
But I suspect he didn't realize how much damage he did to his quads in the first four miles.
Could he come back next year and win? Sure, though it's no guarantee.
Will Father Time swallow him up and spit him out in the next 12 months? Perhaps, but to me its more like Father Time is taking bites and bites. You can still pull it all together at 40+ on a given day and the stars align.
But to spend so much time arguing over Father Time is a waste. And to bring this thread back and do a victory dance is silly too
A few of us are able to see it before it happens. We are almost never embraced. You shall see it soon.
We are downvoted like 86-1 when we post things that the brilliant mob disapproves of.
Your logic still doesn’t hold water. EK had a bad race today, but so did a lot of guys a lot younger than him. Could it be age that caught him, maybe, but it could be the weather or the hills or just a bad day. If he runs a few more poor races in a row under different conditions, then yes, maybe age is the reason.
Don’t be so proud of yourself. You deserved all the downvotes you received.
Classic LetsRun thread, got derailed into a weird food fight with people arguing over something that's impossible to know (at what point, inevitably, time will "catch up" with Kipchoge).
Has it happened? After today, I honestly don't know. Maybe? Has anyone heard from his camp? He also had that weird ear thing when he lost the Covid London Marathon a few years back, and clearly that wasn't the end of him.
Looking back to start of this thread, I think the person who mentioned how the downhills are what get you in Boston was really spot on. It's so true, and from what I could tell in the coverage from the leadup to the race, Kipchoge was not prepared for it.
The fact he took it out in 14:17 and led the whole first 15 miles or so also shows me he wasn't strategically ready. Perhaps it was hubris, or he didn't want to mess with training that's served him so well. Can't blame him for that.
But to me it looked like he thought he was doing any other marathon in the world, leading the pack, biding his time, waving his arm for others to take their turns at the front.
But I suspect he didn't realize how much damage he did to his quads in the first four miles.
Could he come back next year and win? Sure, though it's no guarantee.
Will Father Time swallow him up and spit him out in the next 12 months? Perhaps, but to me its more like Father Time is taking bites and bites. You can still pull it all together at 40+ on a given day and the stars align.
But to spend so much time arguing over Father Time is a waste. And to bring this thread back and do a victory dance is silly too
No victory dance but when so many of you downvote and reply with such ignorance and arrogance, there comes a point where I will choose to humble some of you. And do I enjoy it? This is what life is like for me. Pointing out how wrong so many confident people are…however, to your point, do I think Eliud is finished? No but he is no longer the best marathoner in the world. He is one of maybe a half a dozen who are in the top category and of course he is declining.
We are downvoted like 86-1 when we post things that the brilliant mob disapproves of.
Your logic still doesn’t hold water. EK had a bad race today, but so did a lot of guys a lot younger than him. Could it be age that caught him, maybe, but it could be the weather or the hills or just a bad day. If he runs a few more poor races in a row under different conditions, then yes, maybe age is the reason.
Don’t be so proud of yourself. You deserved all the downvotes you received.
It is fine that you are too ignorant to be humbled. Intelligent matters and you may one day recognize this.
Of course I never said you had to be the GOAT on the track to be the best marathoner. What I said was he could no longer break 27 and then he became a marathoner who was almost unbeatable for a decade. It is all a little strange to the intelligent.
Speaking of records, I think you may be on pace to set a record for downvotes in a single thread. It’s not personal, but your predictions of EK’s athletic demise followed closely by your accusations of EK doping are not going over well. Just give it a rest and move on to something else.
When someone who knows about this than 99% of the posters surfaces, such as myself, he will get downvoted and disagreed with. Meanwhile reality then shows who is struggling with proper cognition.
Classic LetsRun thread, got derailed into a weird food fight with people arguing over something that's impossible to know (at what point, inevitably, time will "catch up" with Kipchoge).
Has it happened? After today, I honestly don't know. Maybe? Has anyone heard from his camp? He also had that weird ear thing when he lost the Covid London Marathon a few years back, and clearly that wasn't the end of him.
Looking back to start of this thread, I think the person who mentioned how the downhills are what get you in Boston was really spot on. It's so true, and from what I could tell in the coverage from the leadup to the race, Kipchoge was not prepared for it.
The fact he took it out in 14:17 and led the whole first 15 miles or so also shows me he wasn't strategically ready. Perhaps it was hubris, or he didn't want to mess with training that's served him so well. Can't blame him for that.
But to me it looked like he thought he was doing any other marathon in the world, leading the pack, biding his time, waving his arm for others to take their turns at the front.
But I suspect he didn't realize how much damage he did to his quads in the first four miles.
Could he come back next year and win? Sure, though it's no guarantee.
Will Father Time swallow him up and spit him out in the next 12 months? Perhaps, but to me its more like Father Time is taking bites and bites. You can still pull it all together at 40+ on a given day and the stars align.
But to spend so much time arguing over Father Time is a waste. And to bring this thread back and do a victory dance is silly too
No victory dance but when so many of you downvote and reply with such ignorance and arrogance, there comes a point where I will choose to humble some of you. And do I enjoy it? This is what life is like for me. Pointing out how wrong so many confident people are…however, to your point, do I think Eliud is finished? No but he is no longer the best marathoner in the world. He is one of maybe a half a dozen who are in the top category and of course he is declining.
Saying that age was going to catch up with EK THIS race in Boston on the heels of his world record in Berlin remains a super dumb opinion. Even now on the heels of this poor performance you have no idea what went wrong and nothing new happened that indicates that age was the critical or only factor, or even a factor at all. Now if you’ve been in EK’s training camp since Berlin and noticed that his workouts have deteriorated, that he needs more rest, etc., than you can make an informed call about his age, but based on what’s in the public domain, no, what you wrote remains foolish.
No victory dance but when so many of you downvote and reply with such ignorance and arrogance, there comes a point where I will choose to humble some of you. And do I enjoy it? This is what life is like for me. Pointing out how wrong so many confident people are…however, to your point, do I think Eliud is finished? No but he is no longer the best marathoner in the world. He is one of maybe a half a dozen who are in the top category and of course he is declining.
Saying that age was going to catch up with EK THIS race in Boston on the heels of his world record in Berlin remains a super dumb opinion. Even now on the heels of this poor performance you have no idea what went wrong and nothing new happened that indicates that age was the critical or only factor, or even a factor at all. Now if you’ve been in EK’s training camp since Berlin and noticed that his workouts have deteriorated, that he needs more rest, etc., than you can make an informed call about his age, but based on what’s in the public domain, no, what you wrote remains foolish.
You cannot admit you were wrong. Just maybe take some time to humble yourself…
