Did Mike Rossi (viral marathon dad) cheat his way into Boston?

It was Felice. He and I did as much as we could to figure this out then we simply went to forums when we thought we had enough. Simple really. There was no personal beef. Just someone trying to discredit an arrogant guy that really disrupted our community and hurt quite a few people while doing so

rojo wrote:

Sorry guys and gals. I've been gone for the last 13 hours or so as I had to get my car fixed this morning. I ALSO HAVE A CONFESSION TO MAKE. I lied last night when I said we can't look up IPs. We most definitely can. I just wanted the person defending Mr. Rossi to keep doing it under different handles.

...

AHA! You've been outed! By yourself of all people! How embarrassing!

As I said, I demand you look up my IP rojo and IF I AM NOT WHO I SAY I AM BAN ME FOR LIFE!

Hvrunner67 wrote:

It was Felice. He and I did as much as we could to figure this out then we simply went to forums when we thought we had enough. Simple really. There was no personal beef. Just someone trying to discredit an arrogant guy that really disrupted our community and hurt quite a few people while doing so

Thanks dude. So his note to the principal is what started this whole thing, huh? Without that he'd still be anonymous and nobody would be outing his cheating.

Not that I'm a big believer in "karma"... but Karma!

Hawkeye1 wrote:

Need another set of eyes on this but watch the finishing video below at 2:09.10 (Clock=3:11.37). Douglas Rendall (lime green top) is just entering in the distance and at 2:09.23, a dark figure comes from the left but never crosses to the other side. I could be seeing things but that person ends up being Mike Rossi.

http://results.chronotrack.com/event/results/event/event-10268?lc=en

I think Rossi is just behind Rendall the entire time -- I don't see anything fishy with the finishing stretch. Other than the overly dramatic fist pump, of course.

Here's a link to a "Dr. Rossi" in or very near Camp Hill, PA

Someone should call their office posing as Comcast Tech Support and have them run a quick check of their system's IP. Long shot, but if the replies came from the office you'd know.

http://veinexpertspa.com/

Hawkeye1 wrote:

Need another set of eyes on this but watch the finishing video below at 2:09.10 (Clock=3:11.37). Douglas Rendall (lime green top) is just entering in the distance and at 2:09.23, a dark figure comes from the left but never crosses to the other side. I could be seeing things but that person ends up being Mike Rossi.

http://results.chronotrack.com...0268?lc=en

HOLY SHIT I SEE THE SAME THING!

The evidence is right there in the chart Greg set up.

His best ever performance was the 10 miler @ 7:29 pace which gave him a VO2 max of 45.2. That translates to a marathon of 3:27:37 (chart has an error there).

To run a 3:11:45 you need a VO2 max of 49.7.

https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2017/6186/original.jpg

Well, just this posted on his personal FB

"The allegation against me that I did not achieve a qualifying time at Lehigh Valley is completely false. I focused my training to peak for the LV race in order to hopefully qualify for Boston.

I have a selfie picture of me at the start and there are photos of me at the finish and video of me finishing the race. The race bib system also documented me at the start and finish. An independent photographer took my picture at the finish. It should also be noted that the LV course is very runner friendly and is rated one of the fastest marathon courses in the country with much of the course downhill.

My race history as shown on Athlinks is not indicative of my performance level but my training does show an ability to run a sub 3:15 marathon. Many of my races were run for fun or were performed while I had documented injuries.

I ran Boston in 4:01 under poor conditions and with a serious hip injury for which I received a cortisone shot ten days prior.

I am currently awaiting the results of an MRI taken this past Monday. Hopefully my hip injury will only be a strain and not a tear.

I recently shut down my twitter account and made my Facebook private because of the excessive harassment and personal threats. Many posters only want to attack me and spread false rumors (such as me having a criminal record which is also false...the name searched has a different middle initial and town of residence )."

somebloke wrote:

if you google "Camp Hill, PA" and "rossi" you can find a few leads on who might have posted that. perhaps a family member?

Yes, let's track down anyone who defends Rossi. Look up their IPs, find their emails, try and lure them into clicking links.

I'm really disappointed with Rojo and letsrun. Taking down the cheater is a good thing. Tracking down people who either troll or just defend the cheater anonymously on the Internet is off limits. It's shameful.

It's been fun being part this wolf pack, but now it's gone too far. I'm out.

PS: see you in Kona

Hawkeye1 wrote:

Need another set of eyes on this but watch the finishing video below at 2:09.10 (Clock=3:11.37). Douglas Rendall (lime green top) is just entering in the distance and at 2:09.23, a dark figure comes from the left but never crosses to the other side. I could be seeing things but that person ends up being Mike Rossi.

http://results.chronotrack.com/event/results/event/event-10268?lc=en

OK, I know I am incompetent but what video? I just see some race results when I click on the link. How do you get to this video?

I can't get that link to work. Can you post the whole thing or give directions to otherwise find the video?

ponce deleon wrote:

Camp Hill is like 100 miles from Rydal. Doubt it is him. I assumed it was a troll, but it is interesting that the IP came from at least somewhat remotely close to Mike.

Not necessarily. His Internet service is NATed to some final IP address hosted in a data center very far away from his location. This is very, very common.

Yes. My neighbors mom is the secretary of our school. Very nice lady. She was going through hell fielding all those calls and threats. We stepped in and did what we could to stop it.

Raysism wrote:

Hawkeye1 wrote:

Need another set of eyes on this but watch the finishing video below at 2:09.10 (Clock=3:11.37). Douglas Rendall (lime green top) is just entering in the distance and at 2:09.23, a dark figure comes from the left but never crosses to the other side. I could be seeing things but that person ends up being Mike Rossi.

http://results.chronotrack.com/event/results/event/event-10268?lc=en

I think Rossi is just behind Rendall the entire time -- I don't see anything fishy with the finishing stretch. Other than the overly dramatic fist pump, of course.

There's a kid that jumps in from the right side. Said kid is wearing black, but it is very evident it is not Rossi.

You aren't proving anything with the VO2 max posts. We all agree that he did not run a 3:11 marathon, but we don't need to invoke the VO2 max concept. We don't need him to run on a treadmill to test his VO2 max (if you want to test somebody on a treadmill, just see how fast they can go- it will tell you a lot more than their VO2 max). You should read Magness' book, there is a great summary of the research showing that VO2 max is NOT the limiting factor in running performance.

MarathonMind wrote:

The evidence is right there in the chart Greg set up.

His best ever performance was the 10 miler @ 7:29 pace which gave him a VO2 max of 45.2. That translates to a marathon of 3:27:37 (chart has an error there).

To run a 3:11:45 you need a VO2 max of 49.7.

https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2017/6186/original.jpg

Type 2531 into bib. The dark figure appears from the left, maybe runs a little with Mike, then exits left as the baby stroller goes from left to right. Wife perhaps? [quote]What Video? wrote:

HeCheate wrote:

I can't get that link to work. Can you post the whole thing or give directions to otherwise find the video?

Go Here

then type in bib 2531

then get the camera to just about 3:11:00 on the clock and watch from there.

There are many people crossing and even a kid finishing with his dad.

at 3:11:51, in the distance, someone crosses right behind 2531 and finishes with him. Guess who it is???

somebloke wrote:

Raysism wrote:

I think Rossi is just behind Rendall the entire time -- I don't see anything fishy with the finishing stretch. Other than the overly dramatic fist pump, of course.

There's a kid that jumps in from the right side. Said kid is wearing black, but it is very evident it is not Rossi.

Yeah, I thought it was Rossi the first time I watched it, but I can make out another set of legs behind Rendall the entire time. I don't think Rossi was crazy enough to jump out with only ~150m left. He would've looked for someplace a little less conspicuous.

I SEE THE SAME wrote:

HeCheate wrote:

I can't get that link to work. Can you post the whole thing or give directions to otherwise find the video?

Go Here

http://www.viamarathon.org/event_info/results.php

then type in bib 2531

then get the camera to just about 3:11:00 on the clock and watch from there.

There are many people crossing and even a kid finishing with his dad.

at 3:11:51, in the distance, someone crosses right behind 2531 and finishes with him. Guess who it is???

I totally disagree. You can see the outline of Rossi at 3:11:45, well before that person crosses behind 2531. Rossi was in the homestretch the entire time.