Jordan Hasay pulls OUT of the 2018 BOA Chicago Marathon with injury

pnw_runner wrote:

running commenter wrote:

My post got deleted already, but I think she's been mildly malnourished the last couple of years and it's starting to catch up to her.

Are your thoughts based on anything other than her appearance?

It seems unlikely to me that with all of the things Salazar and the NOP do to get marginal gains, they'd overlook something as important as nutrition.

You mean the same guy who recommends thyroid medication to his athletes to lose weight? Yes, I think they'd intentionally overlook something as important as that.

I don't see too many people offering well wishes to Jordan AND speculating about an eating disorder (or assuming she'll never do better).

What would you call it?

What is too thin? wrote:

I’m sorry but you don’t put on the kind of muscle she has by being “malnourished”. Jorgensen and Flanagan are much thinner framed . Some women are genetically predisposed to stress fractures just like they are osteoarthritis in older age. There may be things that can happen nutritionally to help that have nothing to do with just “more calories”. But that doesn’t mean she’s malnourished.

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pnw_runner wrote:

Are your thoughts based on anything other than her appearance?

It seems unlikely to me that with all of the things Salazar and the NOP do to get marginal gains, they'd overlook something as important as nutrition.

I've seemed to have ruffled some feathers here, but I'm talking about how skinny she's looked. I was wording it differently because we can't bring that up here without it sounding negative.

Ezekiel bread wrote:

After your body fat percentage drops too low your risk of fractures goes up dramatically. Not saying people should be overweight as that increases risk of fractures too. But being too lean is unhealthy. And my main hypothesis of why Ritz has been injury plagued so much throughout his career is because he is too skinny.

Ritz was often injured because he was wearing Nike shoes.

Idon'tseeyourpoint wrote:

I don't see too many people offering well wishes to Jordan AND speculating about an eating disorder (or assuming she'll never do better).

What would you call it?

Seriously? I'd call it speculation on the cause of her injury. Not every post that doesn't wish someone well is equivalent to bathing in their misfortune. There's a lot of middle ground between those.

Peace be with you! (I wouldn't want to be accused of bathing in your misfortune)

Idon'tseeyourpoint wrote:

The issue is that you have taken no action to address the remarks about Jordan's weight or rumors of an eating disorder.

Are you saying there should be no mention of EDs on these boards? Or that anyone who talks about EDs and running hates women?

I'm just a no-name nobody on an online forum, but I honestly feel terrible for her. She seems like a good egg.

Pulling for her to get back to good health and fast running.

Elite athletes live on the edge of over-training. It doesn't take much added stress to put an athlete at her level on the wrong side of that line. Hasay hasn't said much about it, but the death of her mother less than two years ago had to have a major impact on her, no matter how well it appears she was coping with it. While she or her coach and others may think that she was dealing with it well, an emotional event of that magnitude will take its toll. I think she will work her way through this injury and return to the level of excellence she achieved before it. I wish her all the best.

The pressure to live up to expectations of yourself and of others can take away the enjoyment of many aspects of pursuing a goal. Jordan posts many upbeat inspirational and motivational quotes on her social media. It would be out of character of her, but perhaps she should just say "Eff-It-All" I'm going to take some time off and figure why and who I'm running for? The persona one displays on Social Media is not always the one you are or the one you can live up to.

M.A.G.A.

S.O.W.P.

Perhaps a coaching change would help her stay healthy. Overtraining is not healthy!

Gravy wrote:

The only surprising thing about this is how soon Salazar announced it. Rupp is indeed next and yes, it is due in great part to those ridiculous shoes.

Why's Kipchoge never injured in those so called ridiculous shoes?

cause N affect wrote:

Gravy wrote:

The only surprising thing about this is how soon Salazar announced it. Rupp is indeed next and yes, it is due in great part to those ridiculous shoes.

Why's Kipchoge never injured in those so called ridiculous shoes?

Gravy, I agree Rupp is next. Achilles is bad news and they admitted he is having issues.

what was before Salazar? wrote:

@what was before salazar wrote:

okay, what great collegiate performances did she have?

I hope you're joking, but she was of course a top tier high school and college runner. And certainly I hope you're not comparing collegiate athlete success with pro athlete success. In any case, to answer the original question - she did not have any great performances before joining Salazar because there was nothing before him. She has been with him her entire pro career.

Top tier? What collegiate records did she set? How many individual titles?

Who cares what Rupp does.. him and salazar should of been ban along time ago. Makes me sick . If he wasnt American and in with nike . They both would of been out.

@what was before wrote:

what was before Salazar? wrote:

I hope you're joking, but she was of course a top tier high school and college runner. And certainly I hope you're not comparing collegiate athlete success with pro athlete success. In any case, to answer the original question - she did not have any great performances before joining Salazar because there was nothing before him. She has been with him her entire pro career.

Top tier? What collegiate records did she set? How many individual titles?

Two indoor titles. Nothing to lead any rational observer to predict great things as a pro.

Collegiate Championships

Two-Time 2011 NCAA Indoor champion - mile (4:33.01); 3,000m (9:13.71)

Three-Time NCAA Indoor runner-up - 2010, DMR (10:58.96); 2011, DMR (10:52.90); 2013, 3,000m (9:06.61)

Three-time NCAA Outdoor bronze medalist - 2010,1500m (4:16.43); 2012, 1500m (4:14.03); 2013, 5,000m (15:50.78)

2012 NCAA indoor mile bronze medalist (4:40.09)

Idon'tseeyourpoint wrote:

The tone about the male abuser/football player's weight is far less disrespectful than the tone on this message board about a hardworking female elite athlete.

This message board is often misogynistic, and this is just one example. I think LetsRun needs to do better than trying to justify rumors or attacks on an individual via an article (that wasn't even written by LetsRun) discussing a football player's fitness. It's not a matter of Jordan's fitness, as we all know she is injured and therefore not fit.

It does appear many on this message board wants to bathe in Jordan's misfortune. And it's too bad this behavior never seems to change on this website, and frankly gets pretty old.

People comment on womens weight more often as it's an issue more often. Did you see the Centrowitz thread that I started?

Of course, even when I start a thread about men's weight, I get accused of being sexist. I was accused of causing women's eating disorders.

Time wounds all heels.

Amy Cragg is next to pull out.

injury guru wrote:

Amy Cragg is next to pull out.

Nope. She will start but DNF. She has to do all the pre race hype stuff. Jordan had to do that in Boston.