Official 2023 New Balance Indoor Grand Prix Thread - Meet 4-6pm on NBC (USATF+ Before that)

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200 laps to go lol

Absolutely massive kick again from Kincaid. Unlucky for him there's no world indoors this year, would have medaled for sure.

Noble and James West w great runs for 2nd and 3rd

Woody looked out of it then dropped the hammer the last lap.

He blew everyone out of the water. This track is slow.

NBC seriously needs to get a new crew for the distance races. There were a lot of mistakes in general, but the comment “he knew that he only had 200 laps to go” following the men’s 3000m just further empathized why it’s better to watch with the volume off.

It doesn't really matter what he can run for 200/400, the best in the world don't leave it to the final lap. It's whether he has a 2:25 final km in him. Let's see what he can do in an international field before putting him on the podium

It's not a real mistake. He just misspoke. You knew what he meant. Kara seemed subdued today. You guys have beaten her down.

No excuses but he has shipped twice in two weeks albeit a short flight. And ran very hard last week kind of in no man’s land. I think he is 3;53 or better fitness wise…. Now does it all line up?

I thought folks would say I was looking for built in excuses. The above ..I typed wellbefore the race.

I wrote that prior to the race..that doesn't excuse a nightmare result....I had thought that shipping east twice piggy backing off a huge huge PR effort at 3K....ehhh..may not goas well as hoped. I do know the work, so I kind of know how fit he is or isn't. And Ron is very very rarely off by much on his assessments of that as well..I would say..he is most likely surprised by that.This was not a case of falling apart..he was never ever in it..and to me that indicates fatigue. But, as I also always have said " they all count"

So, this was a clunker..is what it is.

Great performances from Bol and Lyles, but the rest of the meet was a bit of a letdown. Seems like all the New Balance shilling about how fast this track is didn't materialize. Expecting much better times next weekend at the Armory.

I think New balance wants their track to end up like BU’s but adding in the sprints and that corporate edge.

Kara still babbles WAY too much during races.

Call me crazy but I think the space is physically too big to run fast. BU is very small and intimate, the adrenaline really gets going with the chaos. Infield full of runners and coaches with fans 15 feet from the track banging on the glass, fans on the banks of the track slapping the surface - it’s an atmosphere that promotes going all in. The TRACK feels sterile and no different from Ocean Breeze, Penn State, or Texas A&M. Arkansas’s track is closer to BU in size and you’ve had some fast miles run there.

Track is fast enough...comparing anything to that science experiment at BU is foolish.

I was hoping they would show the mechanics of the bends while raising/lowering them, and where the banners went in the process. Anyone have a link for tracks that have this feature?

Anyone tracking the times in indoor track is insane. I think you can draw general conclusions though.

1. Woody, Muir, and Bol are in shape.

2. Hoppel isn’t.

3. The US now sucks in the mile.

My reaction. Yes to Woody and Bol and Hoppel. I didn't learn much from Muir running 8:40 for 3000. She ran 8:30 in August.

Nuguse might be the top US miler - let's see what he does next week. Luis (can we call him US?) might be next, but he is not a miler either. The other "top" ones have not had the best season so far. Let's see what happens at Millrose.

I didn't think Lyles could run the 60M this fast. If he holds to this or improves. then this bodes very well for his 100M chances