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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
L'innoculateur wrote:
I don't think Jacob is dodging the 5000m. At the current level, he consider that distance a joke. I don't see in any way Krop or Fisher challenging him.
Jacob want challenges.
I mean, he won in Lausanne by a second pretty much with a pace that was quite comfortable for him. In Monaco, Aregawi requested a World Record pace for 3,000 (well faster than Jakob's PB)...that feels like a challenge to me. In Brussels, they were going after a 5,000m time right at Jakob's PB.
Running 3:29 1500s is routine for him, so I don't agree with your premise.
Of course Jakob isn´t dodging the 5000m (or the recent 3000m). Jakob isn´t dodging anyone; he wants to compete against the best. I think he was happy that Timothy made it to the Tokyo Olympics even before the heats in the 1500m over there started.
But I think it is more important for him to win the 1500m final in Zürich this year so there will be no doubt that he is the best 1500m runner of the season.
I would have liked to see him to run both the 3000m and 5000m but we must wait for that to next year where he reportedly intends to run more fast races with only one international championship.
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Low Mileage Runner wrote:
-we should be very excited for women's high jump. Yaroslava Mahuchikh took 3 GOOD and close attempts at the world record in Brussels. That record has stood for 35 years! The #1 and #3 all time marks are from eastern Bloc athletes in the 80s, which was the peak of state sponsored doping when all those seemingly untouchable women's world records were set. Right now these Ukrainian athletes have had to train away from home and family, moving from one place to another to avoid the war with Russia. How great would it be for a Ukrainian to beat a Soviet world record right now?
That record is Bulgarian.
I wonder, what kind magic have placed ShaqIra at 100m finals list?
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Couldn't agree more. If Jakob wants "revenge," he'll have to wait for next season. Beating someone in late-season diamond league is like losing a race but overtaking the winner in a victory lap.
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pp wrote:
Low Mileage Runner wrote:
-we should be very excited for women's high jump. Yaroslava Mahuchikh took 3 GOOD and close attempts at the world record in Brussels. That record has stood for 35 years! The #1 and #3 all time marks are from eastern Bloc athletes in the 80s, which was the peak of state sponsored doping when all those seemingly untouchable women's world records were set. Right now these Ukrainian athletes have had to train away from home and family, moving from one place to another to avoid the war with Russia. How great would it be for a Ukrainian to beat a Soviet world record right now?
That record is Bulgarian.
I wonder, what kind magic have placed ShaqIra at 100m finals list?
It was the people's republic of Bulgaria and was one of the USSR's satellite states (that's what I mean by "eastern bloc") until 1990. Bulgaria had a huge doping scandal in Olympic weightlifting. I think it's naive to think that the doping was only widespread in east Germany or that it was limited in Bulgaria to different sports. Disirregardlessly, it's a record from when the USSR had power over eastern Europe, and that alone would add more meaning to if a Ukrainian broke it.
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The Dirty Duck wrote:
If Jakob wants "revenge," he'll have to wait for next season.
Remember me of Steve Cram "cleverly" avoided Aouita until 1990, the year when he lost interest.
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Scratch my Back, I'll scratch your Back wrote:
The prize money in the Diamond League is so little the athletes still need their parents to pay for their expenses. Decades ago the former IAAF Golden League paid $1,000,000 to the season winner or split if more than one winner. Now that money goes to pay the $300/nite H+ Hotel rooms for hundreds of dignitaries and in-turn for reciprocal favoritism to other visiting meet directors.
The Golden League never gave out $1,000,000 to the season winner. You had to win all 6 golden league races to win that, definitely not given out to just the season winner.
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From Zurich Start list:
RAMSDEN Matthew
400m - 55.5 sec, 800m - 1:51 min, 1k - 2:19 min00 -
WOW!
23.23 by Joe Kovacs!
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fghjkl wrote:
WOW!
23.23 by Joe Kovacs!
INSANE!!!! And well earned
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Low Mileage Runner wrote:
It was the people's republic of Bulgaria and was one of the USSR's satellite states (that's what I mean by "eastern bloc") until 1990. Bulgaria had a huge doping scandal in Olympic weightlifting. I think it's naive to think that the doping was only widespread in east Germany or that it was limited in Bulgaria to different sports. Disirregardlessly, it's a record from when the USSR had power over eastern Europe, and that alone would add more meaning to if a Ukrainian broke it.
OK. So, since western Europe and a number of other places are dominated by USA, including Ukraine, while their athletes are doping on regular bases, all their records should be called USA world records, or maybe "USA world" records?
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Flo'da boy wrote:
fghjkl wrote:
WOW!
23.23 by Joe Kovacs!
INSANE!!!! And well earned
The following are eligible for automatic selection by Team USA to 2023 World Athletics Championships.
2022 World Athletics Championships Champions
100 metres Fred Kerley
200 metres Noah Lyles
400 metres Michael Norman
110 metres hurdles Grant Holloway
Shot put Ryan Crouser
800 metres Athing Mu
400 metres hurdles Sydney McLaughlin
Pole vault Katie Nageotte
Shot put Chase Ealey
Hammer throw Brooke Andersen2022 Diamond League Champions
Shot put Ryan Crouser
Shot put Chase Ealey
2022 NACAC Championships winner
800 metres Jonah Koech
1500 metres Eric Holt
5000 metres Woody Kincaid
10,000 metres Sean McGorty
110 metres hurdles Freddie Crittenden
3000 metres steeplechase Evan Jager
Long jump William Williams
Triple jump Chris Benard
Shot put Roger Steen
Hammer throw Rudy Winkler
Javelin throw Curtis Thompson
200 m Brittany Brown
800 metres Ajee Wilson
1500 metres Heather MacLean
5000 metres Natosha Rogers
10,000 metres Stephanie Bruce
100 metres hurdles Alaysha Johnson
3000 metres steeplechase Gabrielle Jennings
High jump Vashti Cunningham
Pole vault Alina McDonald
Long jump Quanesha Burks
Discus throw Laulauga Tausaga-Collins
Hammer throw Janee' Kassanavoid
Javelin throw Kara Winger00 -
L'innoculateur wrote:
The Dirty Duck wrote:
If Jakob wants "revenge," he'll have to wait for next season.
Remember me of Steve Cram "cleverly" avoided Aouita until 1990, the year when he lost interest.
Yeah, Cram was always avoiding his favorite event the 5000m in global championships to dodge Aouita, and dropping down to the lesser glamorous 1500m for easy gold medals.
Seems more likely that Aouita summed up the courage to face Cram from 1990, when Cram was a shadow of his former self and could only train 8 weeks in the year.
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L\'innoculateur wrote:
From Zurich Start list:
RAMSDEN Matthew
400m - 55.5 sec, 800m - 1:51 min, 1k - 2:19 minIt looks like somebody wants a fast time?!
Jakob stated recently that he didn´t think really fast times would come before next season but he might have changed his mind?
If the splits hold the last 500m "only" has to go in under 69 seconds to hit 3:27.
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objectiveobserver wrote:
L\'innoculateur wrote:
From Zurich Start list:
RAMSDEN Matthew
400m - 55.5 sec, 800m - 1:51 min, 1k - 2:19 minIt looks like somebody wants a fast time?!
Jakob stated recently that he didn´t think really fast times would come before next season but he might have changed his mind?
If the splits hold the last 500m "only" has to go in under 69 seconds to hit 3:27.
I was surprised yesterday to see that Zurich track wasn't good for fast times.
(a remember last year there was a complain about this)
But who know what they have decided.
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L'innoculateur wrote:
objectiveobserver wrote:
It looks like somebody wants a fast time?!
Jakob stated recently that he didn´t think really fast times would come before next season but he might have changed his mind?
If the splits hold the last 500m "only" has to go in under 69 seconds to hit 3:27.
I was surprised yesterday to see that Zurich track wasn't good for fast times.
(a remember last year there was a complain about this)
But who know what they have decided.
Who says it isn't good for fast times? El G used to always run his fastest 1500 of the year in Zurich. I assume its at the same place.
Monaco being a magically faster track than the others is a myth. Its just the place that all the top runners come together in peak fitness to chase fast times. It would be the same in Rome or Zurich or any other Euro DL with good weather.
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Are you sure the track we have seen yesterday is the same as this one?00
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El Guerrouj PB by years
1995 Köln (GER) 3:31.16
1996 Brussel 3:29.05
1997 Zurich 3:28.91
1998 Roma 3:26.00
1999 Sevilla 3:27.65
2000 Zurich 3:27.21
2001 Brussel 3:26.12
2002 Zurich 3:26.89
2003 Boudewijnstadion, Bruxelles (BEL) 3:28.40
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The first-day schedule will see six Diamond League champions crowned during the street portion of the event on Sechselautenplatz before the remaining 26 titles are decided on day two at the Letzigrund Stadium.00 -
L'innoculateur wrote:
Are you sure the track we have seen yesterday is the same as this one?Thats not relevant since the "track" yesterday is not the same one they are running on today. The 1500m is in the actual stadium.
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