runnerdave wrote:
Umm.....just wondering: Did someone say this was his first marathon? How did he qualify to get into Boston? Is this a job for Marathon Investigations?
Straight from the linked article: Though he got into the race via an exemption from Gatorade, a longtime personal sponsor, he had a strong desire to qualify for Boston the old-fashioned way. It just wasn’t practical, he says.
GUYS, You can get into the boston marathon without a qualifier. There are literally 10,000+ runners out there without a qualifier. You don't even have to run for a charity. You just have to know someone of minor importance.
Also guess what, rich people get into ivy league colleges on a non-merit basis as well. It's time to get of your bubbles (moms' basements).
American Men go 7, 8, 11, 13, 15. Kenya is the only country with a better top 5 in the race putting all 5 before US 1.
Alan
runnerdave wrote:
Hey, Brojos - To update the controversial 2 minute wait for the sub-elites, were there any men who could've been in the prize money that started 2 minutes later? What was the fastest men's time for the sub-elites?
The true people's runner: Vangampleare, Stephen (USA)
https://boston-iframe.r.mikatiming.net/2019/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=999999117A73270000126884&lang=EN_CAP&event=RRunningart2004 wrote:
American Men go 7, 8, 11, 13, 15. Kenya is the only country with a better top 5 in the race putting all 5 before US 1.
Alan
Yeah because this is America's World Championship and everyone else is waiting to run with the big boys in 2 weeks in London.
big dave22 wrote:
Countless East Africans busted for doping?
"I'm sure the ones still competing are clean though!"
Corrupt coaches and agents explicitly linked to doping?
"That's no guarantee that all their athletes dope!"
Men with 5 o'clock shadow and receding hairlines winning junior races?
"Life is just harder over there, they age faster!"
Proof that EPO is available over the counter and drug testing is nonexistent?
"Still doesn't mean they're cheating! They ran 20 miles to school every day!"
Cheater shoes with literal springs in them?
"Hey they only improve efficiency by 4%, they don't make you 4% faster!"
HONK HONK.
POTD
This guy?? wrote:
runnerdave wrote:
Hey, Brojos - To update the controversial 2 minute wait for the sub-elites, were there any men who could've been in the prize money that started 2 minutes later? What was the fastest men's time for the sub-elites?
The true people's runner: Vangampleare, Stephen (USA)
https://boston-iframe.r.mikatiming.net/2019/?content=detail&fpid=search&pid=search&idp=999999117A73270000126884&lang=EN_CAP&event=R
from a cursory stalking, he’s in the LRC strava group.
good job Vangamplansnanahahaad!
Dril wrote:
GUYS, You can get into the boston marathon without a qualifier. There are literally 10,000+ runners out there without a qualifier. You don't even have to run for a charity. You just have to know someone of minor importance.
Also guess what, rich people get into ivy league colleges on a non-merit basis as well. It's time to get of your bubbles (moms' basements).
Lori Loughlin could get her kids in I bet.
runnerdave wrote:
Sadhsboi wrote:
Come on rojo I thought youd be all over this. He set the 3 hour goal to push himself although realistically it was unlikely. Trained up to 80 miles a week but any time he went over, he’d have issues. All from this article
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nascar-auto-racing/article228980324.htmlUmm.....just wondering: Did someone say this was his first marathon? How did he qualify to get into Boston? Is this a job for Marathon Investigations?
Read the article. Hes sponsored by gatorade so they got him in. Probably paid BAA well just for the story.
Gravy wrote:
Can Sarah Sanders repeat last year's performance?
Flash in pan..
The Carbon Rocket was earlier than VF, but was not released it until this year. Athletes have been using it since 2015.
https://www.roadtrailrun.com/2015/08/outdoor-retailer-summer-15-intro-of.html
ArthurNotInMyYard wrote:
ish wrote:
so is there a men's race happening today?
This kind of political correctness run amok, with broadcasters giving the women more airtime than the men, has been going on in major marathons for years now. Today's coverage was a disgrace; at one point -a crucial point, when moves were being made and runners dropped- NBC cut away from the men's race for over 22 minutes straight to focus on the top women finishing. They didn't even bother using a split screen.
And when the men's race was being shown, Craig Masback and the other announcers were their usual inept selves, barely mentioning the names of any of the athletes, split times, or who was in what position. It was like listening to an extraneous gab fest while there just happened to be a marathon going on in the background.
In contrast, I watched the Paris-Roubaix bike race the night before ,also on NBC, and the announcers -Phil Liggett and Bob Roll- were constantly identifying the leaders and their pursuers, how much of a lead there was, as well as the riders' team affiliations, nationalities, and recent accomplishments, and there were onscreen graphics giving the riders' speed, distance covered vs. distance remaining, etc. Then again, cycling coverage is aimed at more of a hardcore audience, while marathon coverage -at least here in the U.S.- is still treated like a human interest story.
I'm a woman and I generally have more interest in the women's race, but I totally agree with you. The women's race today was basically over by 10K, and yet that was almost all that was shown. The men's race was far more competitive and interesting today and we got to see very little of it.
But regarding your final comment, have you ever watched the TV coverage of the Ironman Triathlon? Talk about treating the whole thing like a human interest story. I find it completely unwatchable.
amkelley wrote:
ArthurNotInMyYard wrote:
This kind of political correctness run amok, with broadcasters giving the women more airtime than the men, has been going on in major marathons for years now. Today's coverage was a disgrace; at one point -a crucial point, when moves were being made and runners dropped- NBC cut away from the men's race for over 22 minutes straight to focus on the top women finishing. They didn't even bother using a split screen.
And when the men's race was being shown, Craig Masback and the other announcers were their usual inept selves, barely mentioning the names of any of the athletes, split times, or who was in what position. It was like listening to an extraneous gab fest while there just happened to be a marathon going on in the background.
In contrast, I watched the Paris-Roubaix bike race the night before ,also on NBC, and the announcers -Phil Liggett and Bob Roll- were constantly identifying the leaders and their pursuers, how much of a lead there was, as well as the riders' team affiliations, nationalities, and recent accomplishments, and there were onscreen graphics giving the riders' speed, distance covered vs. distance remaining, etc. Then again, cycling coverage is aimed at more of a hardcore audience, while marathon coverage -at least here in the U.S.- is still treated like a human interest story.
I'm a woman and I generally have more interest in the women's race, but I totally agree with you. The women's race today was basically over by 10K, and yet that was almost all that was shown. The men's race was far more competitive and interesting today and we got to see very little of it.
But regarding your final comment, have you ever watched the TV coverage of the Ironman Triathlon? Talk about treating the whole thing like a human interest story. I find it completely unwatchable.
I find the Ironman to be as annoyingly unwatchable as you do, and for the same reasons, but I was referring specifically to professional cycling, not triathlon (although triathlon does of course include a cycling segment)
One of the reasons that marathon and Ironman Tri coverage gets derailed by all those "heartwarming" and "inspiring" human interest sidebars is because those are mass participation events that allow the entry of anyone who meets certain qualifying standards, while World Tour-level cycling (Paris-Roubaix, Amstel Gold, Tour of Flanders, etc.) is restricted to the pros.
I think i was watching NBC sports commentary, it kept going to adverts.
The comms was downright awful. Total injustice to the event.
Joe Jackson wrote:
runnerdave wrote:
Umm.....just wondering: Did someone say this was his first marathon? How did he qualify to get into Boston? Is this a job for Marathon Investigations?
Straight from the linked article: Though he got into the race via an exemption from Gatorade, a longtime personal sponsor, he had a strong desire to qualify for Boston the old-fashioned way. It just wasn’t practical, he says.
This does bother me. I listened to the Brojos last podcast where they go on and on about the 2 minute head start for the male elites as ruining Boston as "the people's race" and "the people's olympics" - making the race "elitist", etc. etc.
I was never close to running into the top tier of runners (3:02) but I am bothered by the "who-cares" attitude about making people "jump through the bullshit qualifying hoops" quote from areyoudumb. Yeah, guess I am dumb. I wasn't aware that people don't have to qualify. I thought that's what Boston was all about. We even talk about Boston Qualifier races, etc., and here some Nascar dude says that qualifying for Boston wasn't practical???? Wasn't practical????
No offense, but as a single Dad I would put my daughter to bed at night and then run around the block in the dark so I could get my training in. I doubt I could've gotten into Boston by telling them that qualifying wasn't practical for me.
Dril wrote:
GUYS, You can get into the boston marathon without a qualifier. There are literally 10,000+ runners out there without a qualifier. You don't even have to run for a charity. You just have to know someone of minor importance.
Also guess what, rich people get into ivy league colleges on a non-merit basis as well. It's time to get of your bubbles (moms' basements).
This reminded me that they invited Yuki's mom to run.
Mika, age 50-54: 3:41:52.
Not bad at all!
ArthurNotInMyYard wrote:
I find the Ironman to be as annoyingly unwatchable as you do, and for the same reasons, but I was referring specifically to professional cycling, not triathlon (although triathlon does of course include a cycling segment)
One of the reasons that marathon and Ironman Tri coverage gets derailed by all those "heartwarming" and "inspiring" human interest sidebars is because those are mass participation events that allow the entry of anyone who meets certain qualifying standards, while World Tour-level cycling (Paris-Roubaix, Amstel Gold, Tour of Flanders, etc.) is restricted to the pros.
Agreed on both counts. I also watch professional road cycling occasionally and I find the commentary refreshingly intelligent and on topic. Triathlon is hopeless. Road running is somewhere in between, and worst for Boston and NYC. I watched the Paris Marathon the previous night (recorded!) and the coverage of that race was pretty good. Both men's and women's races were shown in considerable detail.
Finish. Clear dirty play by Lelisa. Glad Cherono won.
Blocking Cherono as he tries to pass him from the outside:
https://twitter.com/qasimrashid/status/1117846108879949826?s=21
Better view of Lelisa throwing his arms:
https://twitter.com/olympicchannel/status/1117823628073213952?s=21
Slow-mo of final sprint:
https://twitter.com/londonmarathon/status/1117879124629032961?s=21
Runningart2004 wrote:
American Men go 7, 8, 11, 13, 15. Kenya is the only country with a better top 5 in the race putting all 5 before US 1.
Alan
Are you saying we lost 15 - 54? In a marathon on our home turf? And you're putting a positive spin on this?
seaofhumanity wrote:
Dril wrote:
GUYS, You can get into the boston marathon without a qualifier. There are literally 10,000+ runners out there without a qualifier. You don't even have to run for a charity. You just have to know someone of minor importance.
Also guess what, rich people get into ivy league colleges on a non-merit basis as well. It's time to get of your bubbles (moms' basements).
This reminded me that they invited Yuki's mom to run.
Mika, age 50-54: 3:41:52.
Not bad at all!
Forgot to check her result, thx. Solid, solid run!
