Brought the covid thread back up where you were caught lying about tennis players.
Go from post 525,where you claimed people pulled out because of the vax,then in the next 10 or so it was shown they either pulled out in previous years,or actually competed at that years Australian Open.
You are a consistently poor liar as its so easy to prove you wrong.
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Don't give me links to other people's work. Use your own words. You don't even know my position on this subject. Maybe I am on your side! I just want you to show me evidence of the 200,000. Do it. Not other people's videos. Your words. Your evidence. Official documents. If you are so certain, then you must have irrefutable evidence.
Why do Palestinians violently expelled from their homes not have a right of return while Jews from Russia and Europe have a right of return to a place they never lived?
The Palestinians who did not participate in the war in 1948 were given the option to stay and those 150,000 that did and their descendants have prospered far more than Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, the Lebanese, etc. Those that were displaced either did so by choice or because they attacked the new Israeli state. The truth is, if Palestinians give up the remaining hostages (if any are still alive, they are probably holding on to the Americans in hope for a big payday to finance another war based on how Biden deals with kidnappers), denounce Hamas and choose to live in peace, they can become prosperous. If they choose to continue their war with Israel and try to eradicate the Israeli nation from the river to the sea, then the suffering will continue.
This talking point is well past its stale date. Are you at all familiar with the state of Israeli politics in the past several years at least?
The idea that Gazans, or Palestinians in general, could (indeed, would ever be ALLOWED to) prosper under Israeli occupation is pure fantasy. Israel controls EVERY facet of life for Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank, and can at any point declare any activity whatsoever by Palestinians to be a "security threat" to Israel and proscribe it. This is precisely why Palestinians can never be expected to cease resisting Israeli occupation. To make Palestinian economic prosperity a pre-condition for Palestinian liberation is a patent absurdity. It's entirely the other way around. It's only when Israel is no longer able to control the lives of Palestinians that they will have any chance for material prosperity. Economic prosperity by Palestinians is ITSELF a threat to Israeli control. Why do you think settlers attack and attempt to displace Palestinians in the West Bank for simply managing to get by economically? Settlers see attacking prosperous Palestinians as pre-empting violent resistance to Israeli control!
Only those who accept the racist, islamophobic stereotype, according to which Palestinians fight back because against Israel simply because they "prefer violence" fail to see the logic here. ANY self-respecting people would fight back against this kind degradation and humiliation, including, eventually, by force of arms, simply for the chance at a normal existence for their children and grandchildren.
There’s nothing “fiscally conservative” about sending all our hard earned tax money to Israel instead of things that benefit Americans.
Our politicians serve Israel because that’s who pays them. But for these regular conservative Joes and Janes what’s their reasoning? They’re just reactionary taking the opposite stance of whatever they see as woke. They’re trained to accept nothing at all from their government.
For my conservative friends: who do you hate most in this world? Nancy Pelosi? Nothing makes Nancy happier than to hear that you’re mad at the woke kids instead of the people with actual power ripping you off.
The Palestinians who did not participate in the war in 1948 were given the option to stay and those 150,000 that did and their descendants have prospered far more than Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians, the Lebanese, etc. Those that were displaced either did so by choice or because they attacked the new Israeli state. The truth is, if Palestinians give up the remaining hostages (if any are still alive, they are probably holding on to the Americans in hope for a big payday to finance another war based on how Biden deals with kidnappers), denounce Hamas and choose to live in peace, they can become prosperous. If they choose to continue their war with Israel and try to eradicate the Israeli nation from the river to the sea, then the suffering will continue.
This talking point is well past its stale date. Are you at all familiar with the state of Israeli politics in the past several years at least?
The idea that Gazans, or Palestinians in general, could (indeed, would ever be ALLOWED to) prosper under Israeli occupation is pure fantasy. Israel controls EVERY facet of life for Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank, and can at any point declare any activity whatsoever by Palestinians to be a "security threat" to Israel and proscribe it. This is precisely why Palestinians can never be expected to cease resisting Israeli occupation. To make Palestinian economic prosperity a pre-condition for Palestinian liberation is a patent absurdity. It's entirely the other way around. It's only when Israel is no longer able to control the lives of Palestinians that they will have any chance for material prosperity. Economic prosperity by Palestinians is ITSELF a threat to Israeli control. Why do you think settlers attack and attempt to displace Palestinians in the West Bank for simply managing to get by economically? Settlers see attacking prosperous Palestinians as pre-empting violent resistance to Israeli control!
Only those who accept the racist, islamophobic stereotype, according to which Palestinians fight back because against Israel simply because they "prefer violence" fail to see the logic here. ANY self-respecting people would fight back against this kind degradation and humiliation, including, eventually, by force of arms, simply for the chance at a normal existence for their children and grandchildren.
I’m talking about the 20% of Israeli’s who are Palestinian, live prosperous lives, have a voice in the parliament, etc.
This is at least a reasonable reply. But, I would respond that the only thing that enables Israel to strike the posture that it does with regard to its "Palestinian Question" is unconditional US military and diplomatic support. And, let's be clear, Israel wants A LOT more than simply to retain its status as a Jewish state within the territory of Palestine, and it is only in position to demand it-- and, as it looks today, prepare to take it-- because of this US support.
This just isn't accurate. A sudden withdrawal of US support would of course be a huge problem, but Israel is an advanced and wealthy nation that could absolutely go it alone over the long term if it had to.
This is simply not the case. Israel is a tiny, trade dependent country that would have to devote a huge percentage of it industrial capacity to making arms to have any chance of survival by means of military force alone. If this weren't the case, it would have sworn off US support, with all the restrictions it entails (now no nearly as robust at they should be), a long time ago.
But more importantly, you're forgetting the crucial role of unqualified US diplomatic support. Absent this, the UN Security Council would long since have stopped Israel's attack on Gaza and, perhaps, intervened directly in the form of a peacekeeping mission and an imposed diplomatic process to solve the underlying issue of Israeli occupation of Palestine.
And this is exactly what SHOULD be happening by this point. Israel has done far more than enough killing. There is no such thing as complete security from terrorist threats for ANY country, least of all for a country that operates as a apartheid state. You can't be allowed to commit mass murder in the name of "total security" from terrorist threats, particularly when you're doing as much as Israel is to provoke them. It's time for real diplomacy, even if Israel has to be dragged at gunpoint by the UN to the table.
This talking point is well past its stale date. Are you at all familiar with the state of Israeli politics in the past several years at least?
The idea that Gazans, or Palestinians in general, could (indeed, would ever be ALLOWED to) prosper under Israeli occupation is pure fantasy. Israel controls EVERY facet of life for Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank, and can at any point declare any activity whatsoever by Palestinians to be a "security threat" to Israel and proscribe it. This is precisely why Palestinians can never be expected to cease resisting Israeli occupation. To make Palestinian economic prosperity a pre-condition for Palestinian liberation is a patent absurdity. It's entirely the other way around. It's only when Israel is no longer able to control the lives of Palestinians that they will have any chance for material prosperity. Economic prosperity by Palestinians is ITSELF a threat to Israeli control. Why do you think settlers attack and attempt to displace Palestinians in the West Bank for simply managing to get by economically? Settlers see attacking prosperous Palestinians as pre-empting violent resistance to Israeli control!
Only those who accept the racist, islamophobic stereotype, according to which Palestinians fight back because against Israel simply because they "prefer violence" fail to see the logic here. ANY self-respecting people would fight back against this kind degradation and humiliation, including, eventually, by force of arms, simply for the chance at a normal existence for their children and grandchildren.
I’m talking about the 20% of Israeli’s who are Palestinian, live prosperous lives, have a voice in the parliament, etc.
You've lost all credibility if you're attempting to claim that Arab Israelis are full citizens of Israel simply because they have "representatives in parliament" and are "allowed" have jobs and own businesses in Israel. Making this kind of claim may have worked to confuse people about the nature of Palestinian resistance politics even a couple of years ago, before most people were paying any real attention, but its darkly laughable now. Even before Oct 7, the rights of Arab Palestinians to live where they want, marry whom they want, and travel freely were circumscribed. ALL Arabs, whether citizens of Israel or not, are assumed to be "security threats" in waiting simply by virtue of their ethnicity. As an Arab, you can attract scrutiny from the Israel security establishment for mere utterances. This was true before Oct 7 and it is double true now.
I guess it's a token of progress that Israel defenders are completely out of credible arguments. Simple appeals to islamophobic and racist stereotypes are increasingly all they have left, and these will not continue to work.
The good news is it looks like Hamas support has decreased to low the level of support that it had before October 7th in Gaza and a lot of Israelis want Netanyahu out.
The ceasefire negotiations are the latest evidence that the group is politically vulnerable after allowing calamity to be unleashed on Gazans. Hamas’s enemies need to take advantage of the opportunity
We all remember your lies around the Aussie open. You posted about 2 players pulling out,then when it got shown it was from 2 or 3 years previous you played daft,pretty easy for you. Then you posted about another played supposedly injured by the vax,yet the post was from when he was injured 11 years before that,again played daft. These were all easily provable and shows how stupid you are.
Please. By all means. Prove what you are saying.
Better yet, explain what in God's name you are saying. And how it applies to the mass murder spree Israel is on
There you go liar old man.
Brought the covid thread back up where you were caught lying about tennis players.
Go from post 525,where you claimed people pulled out because of the vax,then in the next 10 or so it was shown they either pulled out in previous years,or actually competed at that years Australian Open.
You are a consistently poor liar as its so easy to prove you wrong.
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Don't give me links to other people's work. Use your own words. You don't even know my position on this subject. Maybe I am on your side! I just want you to show me evidence of the 200,000. Do it. Not other people's videos. Your words. Your evidence. Official documents. If you are so certain, then you must have irrefutable evidence.
Demand sources and then ignore those sources because they are not my own words.
Brought the covid thread back up where you were caught lying about tennis players.
Go from post 525,where you claimed people pulled out because of the vax,then in the next 10 or so it was shown they either pulled out in previous years,or actually competed at that years Australian Open.
You are a consistently poor liar as its so easy to prove you wrong.
I’m talking about the 20% of Israeli’s who are Palestinian, live prosperous lives, have a voice in the parliament, etc.
You've lost all credibility if you're attempting to claim that Arab Israelis are full citizens of Israel simply because they have "representatives in parliament" and are "allowed" have jobs and own businesses in Israel. Making this kind of claim may have worked to confuse people about the nature of Palestinian resistance politics even a couple of years ago, before most people were paying any real attention, but its darkly laughable now. Even before Oct 7, the rights of Arab Palestinians to live where they want, marry whom they want, and travel freely were circumscribed. ALL Arabs, whether citizens of Israel or not, are assumed to be "security threats" in waiting simply by virtue of their ethnicity. As an Arab, you can attract scrutiny from the Israel security establishment for mere utterances. This was true before Oct 7 and it is double true now.
I guess it's a token of progress that Israel defenders are completely out of credible arguments. Simple appeals to islamophobic and racist stereotypes are increasingly all they have left, and these will not continue to work.
They live far better lives than your average Egyptian, Jordanian, Lebanese, Irani, Iraqi, etc.
You've lost all credibility if you're attempting to claim that Arab Israelis are full citizens of Israel simply because they have "representatives in parliament" and are "allowed" have jobs and own businesses in Israel. Making this kind of claim may have worked to confuse people about the nature of Palestinian resistance politics even a couple of years ago, before most people were paying any real attention, but its darkly laughable now. Even before Oct 7, the rights of Arab Palestinians to live where they want, marry whom they want, and travel freely were circumscribed. ALL Arabs, whether citizens of Israel or not, are assumed to be "security threats" in waiting simply by virtue of their ethnicity. As an Arab, you can attract scrutiny from the Israel security establishment for mere utterances. This was true before Oct 7 and it is double true now.
I guess it's a token of progress that Israel defenders are completely out of credible arguments. Simple appeals to islamophobic and racist stereotypes are increasingly all they have left, and these will not continue to work.
They live far better lives than your average Egyptian, Jordanian, Lebanese, Irani, Iraqi, etc.
Palestinian nationalism did not start once Israel was founded. While Palestine was governed by the Ottoman Empire and then the British Empire their enemies were the Turks and the British. Now their land is governed by Israel their enemy is the Israelis.
What difference does it make if Palestinians are identical or similar to other Arabs? Why does that mean it was right for them to be moved out of the way so Israel could be founded?
Well can you name a true Democracy among today's other Arab Nations and an Arab Nation that isn't an Islamic Theocracy? The problem with "Free Palestine" is that it has evolved into an Islamic State Majority that doesn't want to be Free.