Official 2025 Boston Marathon Thread

why was this downvoted?

John mounted his competition and proceeded to

American women's marathoning is basically in the same place that American men's marathoning was before Conner Mantz ran Boston 2 years ago. Where, basically we knew everyone already in the field and they had sort of reached their peak. They are solid but not elite runners.

I am hopeful that when Taylor Roe, Emma Grace Hurley, Weini Kelati, these other newer generations of runners get to the marathon, that they can inject some enthusiasm into the women's side.

BAA does a poor job at everything because it's ran by a bunch of octogenarians that resist to give up their jobs

In running you can control your effort level which results in your finishing time.

You can't control who else shows up to race and what other runners do.

So your finishing place is determined by who else showed up to race, and that is based on a certain amount of 'luck'.

Depending on who else showed up, Mantz could have finished out of the top ten or won with his great race today.

I knew Mantz wasn't going to win the moment Korir took off. Eventually he came in 4th. Great performance but the Kenyans own Boston.

I'm just wondering why very little mention is made of the three African gals that broke the 220 barrier. That isn't right news coverage. LOKEDI LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS IN AUTO PILOT. OBIRI WAS JUST HANGING ON FOR DEAR LIFE

Every American male not named Ryan Ford and Connor Mantz, though the latter has reason to be devastated as he was dropped like a bad habit in the last miles.

Where was Panning? CJ didn't run like CJ but somehow ran worse than expected? Reed Fischer? I don't expect much from some of these guys but that was pitiful. Clayton Young looks to be on the back end of his career and went out with a whimper today. I wish Matt Richtman were in this just to shake things up. The worlds team this year just got interesting- Young and Panning are no longer locks, Mantz kind of has to run it now with another major win eluding him

Pat Tiernan went BTA to most Americans today and he hasn't been relevant in a long, long time.

No excuses for weather. No excuse to lose the leader ala Sisay Lemma 2024. Back to the drawing board for many of these guys.

True, but same can be said for the other guys in that group. He was the first one to respond and at least tried to cover the move.

This is what you took away?

I don't know where to begin. I think Conner is running Chicago to try to set the AR. And barring injury or crazy weather, he is going to get it.

Pat Tiernan ran his marathon PB just one year ago, and it was faster than anything CJ, Panning or Fischer have ran so I don't know how you could be surprised.

Get up there on the podium. You're the downvotes champ of the day.

I'm of the opposite opinion on this. Start the wheel chairs 30 minutes after the mass start for mass casualties. Viewership would skyrocket.

i've been getting a lot of downvotes oddly for saying John Korir plowed the mad crop of his competition.

Tell me in what multiverse this is currently false?

Feel like too many Americans go in with the mindset of racing, would be better off training to time trial and get the best time they can, most of them aren't competitive in the first place and blow up trying to stay in touch with the lead pack

Let's be real here, Ryan Hall's PB is 2:06:17.

NO ONE else in that fast wind-aided Boston race ever ran within 75-90 seconds of what they ran that day in the wind.

Mantz is the fastest US marathoner ever.

D'Amato's trajectory has been really strange. Was thinking after a healthy buildup at altitude under Eyestone she might be able to do something special again.

I love rooting for Bates, and I don't think she would talk big game if she didn't believe it. But I do think she needs a new coach.

Super happy for Jess McClain!! She is so easy to cheer for and such a smart and consistent racer.

Feel bad for Obiri, but so freaking happy for Lokedi. 2:17 on Boston is insane.

Good day for Des. And happy Frisbie finally had her breakthrough!

Conner really stuck his nose in it and pulled it off! He must be disappointed with almost going under 2:05 and almost being on the podium, but he should be massively proud. This will probably just motivate him even further. Good day for Clayton, too.

Puma really had a day! The Puma Fast-R 3 really must be as good as the studies are saying. Rory, Pat, Annie, etc.

Let's just all agree Mantz in no way benefits from super shoes and there was a hurricane shoving Hall down the course, makes things easier for thread purposes

Jared Ward approach. Yields the best time and place they could achieve on that day.

I like Mantz, the fact he hung around at the Olly marathon high fiving people at the finish line shows he's a good guy IMO

Des Linden - 2:26:09. Total Badass!