Official 2017 Chicago Marathon Live Discussion Thread

29:47 was not accurate wrote:

Again, what was Rupp’s last 10k?

Last 10k split isn't very informative since Rupp didn't go until after 35 km. He split 14:25 from 35-40k.

Because Dibaba solo'd in chicago!

She ran a 2;18 alone, no male pacer in sight and refused to let the other women use her as a pacer!

please stop with the excuses.

cheater

ya real proud !!!!

the #1 athlete (under "suspicion" AND UNDER INVESTIGATION of cheating ) from the #1 cheating coach in american history

so proud !!!!!!!

and a non social jerk to boot

IM EMBARRASSED THAT HE IS THE FIRST TO WIN SINCE 2001

AWFUL!!!!!

Rupp’s been around the Mobot too long to try to push the pace when he knew no one in the field had his kick.

Well done Sir Rupp-

Rupp now has a

1) Baller mile time -3:50i

2) Legit all-world 10k pr of 26:44

3) Collection of Olympic hardware

4) Major marathon victory

His career is basically unparalled for a US born runner. But... it would be great to see Rupp add these notches

1) Gold in Oly-World Champs marathon. Rupp has a knack for competing well in less than ideal conditions in the marathon. Kimetto, Kipchoge, Kipsang, and Bekele are all entering the twilight of their marathon careers. The Ethiopian randos who go 2:04 at Dubai every year rarely show up at the global events. Rupp will have four chances at global gold between now and 2021 when he will still only be 35. I'd put the odds on Rupp eventually winning global gold at 50/50 , maybe even slightly higher.

3. Run a really, really fast marathon. Rupp was obviously capable of 2:07 high today if conditions and pacing had been different. (Rupp is never going to front run a marathon. He's just not) However, Rupp needs to at least go sub 2:06:17? and preferably sub 2:04:58 to take the unquestioned title of fastest American Marathoner. For a 5-11 140 lb guy that is really moving. But.. Ryan Hall was basically the same build so no real reason to say 2:06 plus or minus is unachievable for Rupp.

I'd set the odds on Rupps final marathon PR as follows

2:08:xx - 95%

2:07:xx -80%

2:06:xx- 50%

2:05:xx - 40%

2:04:xx- 20%

3. Scalp one of Kipchoge, Kimetto, Bekele, Fatah, Kipsang, or Farah in a half or full marathon. Rupp has to win in a quality time and the greats have to finish in a quality time too for this to count. I think Rupp has a decent shot at this if he priortizes a run like Great North for 2018. Otherwise, maybe he combines this with earning a global gold.

Anyway, 4 marathons, 2 wins, 1 Olympic medal, and 2 sub 2:10s ain't half bad.

Diagonal Crossing wrote:

Well done Sir Rupp-

Rupp now has a

1) Baller mile time -3:50i

2) Legit all-world 10k pr of 26:44

3) Collection of Olympic hardware

4) Major marathon victory

His career is basically unparalled for a US born runner. But... it would be great to see Rupp add these notches

1) Gold in Oly-World Champs marathon. Rupp has a knack for competing well in less than ideal conditions in the marathon. Kimetto, Kipchoge, Kipsang, and Bekele are all entering the twilight of their marathon careers. The Ethiopian randos who go 2:04 at Dubai every year rarely show up at the global events. Rupp will have four chances at global gold between now and 2021 when he will still only be 35. I'd put the odds on Rupp eventually winning global gold at 50/50 , maybe even slightly higher.

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Sorry - Three chances at global gold between now and 2021. Obviously Tokyo 2020 is the Hollywood story but gold is gold.

Nice from Derrick, meh from Bumbalough, Chelanga, Estrada, poor from Lilesa and Puskedra. Very impressive from Droddy (and Hampton!), the guy was a funny also-ran a couple years ago and now he's ahead of Puskedra and on the heels of some decorated/celebrated runners.

last mile wrote:[/

Thanks for post - does anyone know at what point Rupp separated from Kirui? He put 28 seconds on him (a 2:05 marathoner) by the finish. What about his time for last mile or two?

He separated sometime during the NBC commercial

Went to church after seeing troll post Hasay was going to DNF. Talked to God, kept the faith. Came back. Rupp win, and Great Race by Jordan.

Expect Great Things

MAGA

scorpion_runner wrote:

Because Dibaba solo'd in chicago!

please stop with the excuses.

Dibaba ran great, and she had company for > 30k which is how far pace makers typically go. I bet she would have run 2:17s if she ran a more measured race.

No excuses were made for Rupp, just stating the facts.

btw - have you ever actually run a marathon? Do you know how good it feels to neg split, PB, hammer the competition and win a race? Acknowledge that, or you're just yet another boring Rupp hater who refutes facts as fake news.

Hunh? wrote:

scorpion_runner wrote:

Because Dibaba solo'd in chicago!

please stop with the excuses.

Dibaba ran great, and she had company for > 30k which is how far pace makers typically go. I bet she would have run 2:17s if she ran a more measured race.

No excuses were made for Rupp, just stating the facts.

btw - have you ever actually run a marathon? Do you know how good it feels to neg split, PB, hammer the competition and win a race? Acknowledge that, or you're just yet another boring Rupp hater who refutes facts as fake news.

I race and run for time. Always looking to get faster. I don't are about the wins. That's just me, which is why I will never be a cheater. That is the type of elite runner that I would be. WR and AR matter more to me. just saying.

tons of people have won chicago,, berlin, etc ....but only a few have run sub 2:04, bro.

Ryan hall is a legend, and never won a major marathon. But he ran 2;04, 2:06 and I believe 2:08. and he holds the american record for HM

Hasay is now the second fastest American marathoner. Period. I'm sorry you're unable or unwilling to recognize what an extraordinary run she just pulled off. And if you're just some young troll, good heavens, try to do something useful.

Sledge_hammer wrote:

Btw, Hasay still hasn't won anything significant, as opposed to, say, Cragg's bronze at Worlds. I won't place her in the top-5. Top-10 or Top-15, maybe.

Blah blah... race & win New York, a challenging course and against a REAL field, then we'll talk. And don't evade the subject either.

UCI XC wrote:

Fastest since Kastor, yes. Best, no. Samuelson is still best, then Kastor. Hasay is also rivaled by Catalano, Cragg, Linden, and Flanagan; she’s probably ahead of Goucher now.

Dude, please

from 2;23 to 2;20! The girl has it. None of those women would be able to run at 2:15 pace with Dibaba. At one point the ladies were running on WR pace, and Hasay was right there.

all those other women would have died after 2 miles. Dibaba went out blazing at the gun, no let up.

Hasay just ran the 2nd fastest marathon ever at the age of 26 and she beat florence kipligat a 2;19 marathoner. That is how brutal that pace was! florence died. Hasay did not!

Noah Droddy running 2:16 out there is one of the more impressive things that happened today. His training the past few months was very mediocre, I wouldn't even call it marathon centric. Looked like a moderate mileage half marathon training plan. ANd he was hurt and took over a month off in the May-July area. Not a lot of time to even build up. I'm just surprised he didn't fall off worse than he did. Good stuff

Hunh? wrote:

scorpion_runner wrote:

Because Dibaba solo'd in chicago!

please stop with the excuses.

Dibaba ran great, and she had company for > 30k which is how far pace makers typically go. I bet she would have run 2:17s if she ran a more measured race.

No excuses were made for Rupp, just stating the facts.

btw - have you ever actually run a marathon? Do you know how good it feels to neg split, PB, hammer the competition and win a race? Acknowledge that, or you're just yet another boring Rupp hater who refutes facts as fake news.

Dibaba had "company" for 30k, not help. She led practically from the start. The other girls sat behind her almost the whole time until they cratered, which actually has the opposite effects of pacing. I think she would have run under 2:17 with help from decent female pacers until halfway.

Very impressive form from Rupp. The way he did it was reminiscent of the Trials where he was jogging with Meb, actually, bumping into him and drafting off of him, and then finally went way ahead with maybe 4 miles left. This time, the weather was better and he went hard. Kirui still would have beaten him if the miles had been mid 4:40s instead of low to mid 4:30s there. Of course, his personality and the shadiness of his coach and training regimen cast doubt on all of this but for today I am pleased that an American-born runner has won Chicago for the first time in 35 years. Rupp clearly can run a lot faster, given the talented guys he has beaten in his last three marathons, and I expect that Salazar will get him to a fast marathon next fall after running Boston, but the money in Boston, New York, and Chicago is always going to be tough to turn down.

scorpion_runner wrote:

I race and run for time. Always looking to get faster. I don't are about the wins.

You´re not good enough to win anything more competitive than the local Turkey Trot, sis.

"We still don't know if he's an elite marathoner."

He's the first American to win the race since 1982.

He was the 10th ranked starter in the elite field, by time:

Dennis Kimetto KEN 2 2:02:57

Stanley Biwott KEN 3 2:03:51

Feyisa Lilesa ETH 4 2:04:52

Abel Kirui KEN 1 2:05:04

Sisay Lemma ETH 5 2:05:16

Ezekiel Chebii KEN 6 2:06:07

Bernard Kipyego KEN 7 2:06:19

Kohei Matsumura JPN 9 2:08:09

Galen Rupp USA 10 2:09:58

He beat Kimetto (WR holder), Biwott, and Lilesa. Lemma couldn't handle him. He completely dominated last year's winner, Kirui--just ground him down to paste the moment he put the hammer down. Kirui was lifting and bouncing like a frog; his stride shot to pieces, basically. And Rupp just motored on at 4:32 pace (something like that) for the last three miles.

I'd call him an elite marathoner.