Losing weight after age 30... is the only solution to starve yourself?

The usual spiel wrote:

sub_3_is_the_goal wrote:

I think the answer to your question is yes. Calories in/calories out might be right, but it seems at least in my case that I'm eating less than I did in my 20s and exercising more yet gaining more weight. Metabolism has to play a function here..

Self deception is one of the most powerful things in the world, it even convinces people that fundamental physical laws such as the First Law of Thermodynamics are broken. You are eating more than you realize, fact.

So it is your contention that a 25 year old and a 55 year old could eat the exact same diet and follow the exact same exercise regimen and will have equal weight loss or gain?

Cigarettes & cocaine can keep you skinny for decades.

Running is overrated anyways.

The usual spiel wrote:

sub_3_is_the_goal wrote:

I think the answer to your question is yes. Calories in/calories out might be right, but it seems at least in my case that I'm eating less than I did in my 20s and exercising more yet gaining more weight. Metabolism has to play a function here..

Self deception is one of the most powerful things in the world, it even convinces people that fundamental physical laws such as the First Law of Thermodynamics are broken. You are eating more than you realize, fact.

You're wrong.

Sorry but Diet Doctor is full of sh1t, as is anyone claiming that a fundamental law of physics is irrelevant, this fallacy is what is known as "Special Pleading"

And to the other question, the law works regardless of age of the person.

its not hard to do, it takes some will power and discipline. first cut out dairy, ie cheese, yog, milk cream etc, next cut out meat (or if you insist on eating dead animal) cut down on meat; next cut out or cut down sugar and sugar products, NO junk food (its poison) ; if you need snacks, have a cup of mixed nuts pretzels or organic corn chips; eat lots of salad, veggies, fruit (but careful on the fruit some has alot of sugar), NO fast food ,its poison; dont go to bed feelin too hungry , have an apple, it good for you. keep working out, hike run bike weights of push ups, instead of hard alcohol, a beer, or glass of wine. drink smoothies, especially after you work out as smoothies will re-hydtate you and fill you up. you can do this, it takes a while for your body to adjust, oh yeah cut down or cut out bread and bagels

Where else do you visit I wonder. Misc? Lookism?

The usual spiel wrote:

Sorry but Diet Doctor is full of sh1t, as is anyone claiming that a fundamental law of physics is irrelevant, this fallacy is what is known as "Special Pleading"

And to the other question, the law works regardless of age of the person.

True, true. The other day I looked around and realized that everyone I know is aging in the same exact way due to universal gravitation having an identical effect on every single person.

The usual spiel wrote:

sub_3_is_the_goal wrote:

I think the answer to your question is yes. Calories in/calories out might be right, but it seems at least in my case that I'm eating less than I did in my 20s and exercising more yet gaining more weight. Metabolism has to play a function here..

Self deception is one of the most powerful things in the world, it even convinces people that fundamental physical laws such as the First Law of Thermodynamics are broken. You are eating more than you realize, fact.

You realllyyyyy misread his post. It's certainly possible he is eating more than he realizes...but that wasn't his point.

He never said CI = CO and he is gaining weight. He suggested his metabolism slowed down. Same CI + Lowered CO from slow metabolism = weight gain.

One thing that didn't happen to the OP though is gaining back 10 pounds in 2 weeks...unless he did something absolutely legendary with his eating in those two weeks.

Sorry, my original post should have said I gained back the 10 pounds in 2 MONTHS, not weeks. So basically the same amount of time it took to lose the 10 pounds in the first place. Although I did put on the most weight during the first two week of that.

The thing I struggled with most when losing the weight earlier this year was not being able to fall asleep due to the hunger. Or waking up in the night hungry. I don't really mind being hungry during the day since I can just ignore it by doing other things. But most nights I'd go to bed around 9:30 and then just lay there for half an hour, feeling like death, only to get up and get something to eat in order to fall asleep. I've tried eating more during the day to combat that, but even if I do eat more during the day I still get hungry at night.

I agree with those who highlight lifting. I'm 40 and have found the same issue with it being harder to lose weight/prevent gain from just running. Higher intensity exercise makes a big difference. You can only run fast intervals a couple of times a week, but you can supplement that with lifting, which helps burn more calories without requiring you to starve yourself or kill your legs.

gettin old gettin fat wrote:

The thing I struggled with most when losing the weight earlier this year was not being able to fall asleep due to the hunger. Or waking up in the night hungry. I don't really mind being hungry during the day since I can just ignore it by doing other things. But most nights I'd go to bed around 9:30 and then just lay there for half an hour, feeling like death, only to get up and get something to eat in order to fall asleep. I've tried eating more during the day to combat that, but even if I do eat more during the day I still get hungry at night.

You should be eating 6-8 meals a day of a 200-300 calories. Breakfast when you get up and then every couple hours during the day. You will never feel very hungry. You should also eat a meal before you go to bed. That is actually the most important time to be properly fueled since that is when your body is recovering and repairing itself.

The usual spiel wrote:

Sorry but Diet Doctor is full of sh1t, as is anyone claiming that a fundamental law of physics is irrelevant, this fallacy is what is known as "Special Pleading"

And to the other question, the law works regardless of age of the person.

I tried this a few years back. I ate exactly how I did right out of college, and ran the same number of miles. I had an 8-5 job, so that matched. I didn't go out to bars like I did 25 years prior, but I did drink too many beers while generally sitting around.

I gained weight. The beer alone, I believe, put me 3-4 pounds up after barely two weeks. I did this another 6 days, cut down the beer some because I don't drink that much, and I still gained 5 pounds.

(Don't say I didn't eat the same, I used to record what I ate/drank, just like I recorded mileage and the shoes I was wearing.)

Differences between then, and 25 years prior: I weighed more, and had more muscular development. I continued to go to the gym, in addition to running 5-7 miles a day, so my activity level was actually higher than it was 25 years prior.

Should have mentioned:

My diet was McDonald's nearly every morning, donuts on the weekends, lots of fast food for lunch, sometimes Pop Tarts for lunch, pizza nearly every night. Hamburger Helper a lot. Cookies. ZERO fruit. ZERO vegetables.

My regular diet then, as today is significantly better. Gluten-free, no refined anything, no booze, no cookies. Tons of vegetables.

And my weight is a battle.

I have dropped 25 pounds in 2 months by stopping eating anything with processed sugar (no prepared meals, granola bars, canned things, deserts, you name it), all soft drinks, most red meat and replaced with various fresh vegetables, fruits, chicken, fish, and water has been my drink of choice. No additional exercise.

oh, no breads or alcohol either. I am working on 61 years old.

ex-golfer wrote:

will run for beer wrote:

When they came for my cheesecake, I said OK. When they came for my nice, full Hefe and gave me a lighter Pilsner instead, I wasn’t thrilled but eventually said OK, too. When they came back for the Pilsner, I said no way and put a treadmill in my study.

like.

This is sad.

Are you doing doubles? Can you squeeze in tripples - maybe shorter runs? Even if you went for a jog in your street clothes during lunch break for 15 minutes or so, or did your errands on foot.

I like to think of it this way. Your appetite is geared for let's say 130 miles a week, and you are a bit abnormal in the sense that it is dialed up this way regardless of how much you are running. So if you give it 130 miles a week or equivalent activity, then your body will be in balance. You can think of it as a strength.

Try foods that are more filling without having as much sugar and other carbs. The easiest way to do it is to avoid sugary drinks and potato chips or tortilla chips. 9 tortilla chips have 140 calories! And run higher mileage. If you run 100+ mpw, you cannot tell me that you will be heavy.

One way to cut down on the sugar without much pain is to bring in tea and honey to your workplace. Drink a cup of tea with honey a day and you might well lose quite a bit (240 calories for 20 oz. coke), since you're not likely to put the amount of sugar in that they force in at higher pressure in the industry.