Breaking Paul Chelimo has been DQd from Zurich and It Cost Him $20,000

Ultradude wrote:

The DQ was completely deserved. He chose to run on the inside lane with the advantage of running the shortest distance but at the risk of having nowhere to run when it came time for the kick. And having nowhere to run at the end is exactly what happened. Instead of accepting that he lost his gamble, he tried to push his way through at the risk of injuring Farah, and especially Edris who went hard to the track and slid for what looked like 10 meters. That had to hurt and easily could have resulted in significant injury to Edris. I guess he learned his lesson the hard with the DQ. Unfortunately for him, it looked like he enough to win the race if he had a clear path to the line.

+1

Chelimo has become a great runner, I hope he can adjust his tactical sense a bit. If he can do this he's got an even chance of being the best 5000 man of the next few years.

It is disingenuous for Let's Run commentators to continue to question why Chelimo choose a non-army kit for this race. The world situation is more tense than a year ago, so there is greater risk.

Why grind this axe anyway? It reveals more about Let's Run than it does about Chelimo.

I can't see that in the IAAF rules. Rule 163 covers obstruction but is worded to give the judges a lot of flexibility:

"Obstruction

2. if an athlete is jostled or obstructed during an event so as to impede

his progress, then:

RULES 162, 163 166

IAAF COMPETITION RULES 2016-2017

(a) if the jostling or obstruction is considered unintentional or is

caused otherwise than by an athlete, the Referee may, if he is of

the opinion that an athlete (or his team) was seriously affected,

order that the race be re-held or allow the affected athlete (or

team) to compete in a subsequent round of the event;

(b) if another athlete is found by the Referee to be responsible for

the jostling or obstruction, such athlete (or his team) shall be

liable to disqualification from that event. the Referee may, if

he is of the opinion that an athlete (or his team) was seriously

affected, order that the race be re-held excluding any

disqualified athlete (or team) or allow any affected athlete (or

team) (other than any disqualified athlete or team) to compete

in a subsequent round of the event.

in both cases Rule 163.2(a) and (b), such athlete (or team) should

normally have completed the event with bona fide effort."

I can't see anything else relevant (assuming we are talking about a race not run in lanes). Anyone else?

I just watched the video in slow mo. while sprinting, if someone falls in front of you and slows down and you put your hands up is that considered pushing?

Chelimo is earning his citizenship. I do not see what is wrong with that.

moose wrote:

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To me, it looks like Mo pushed Edris with right arm and used his right arm to block Chelimo's advance.

If someone elbows you in the gut, you will probably grab their arm.

Mo was failing and Edris was falling, making Chelimo look like the chump when really he was the champ. No one was as strong as Chelimo today.

what i see wrote:

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To me, it looks like Mo pushed Edris with right arm and used his right arm to block Chelimo's advance.

If someone elbows you in the gut, you will probably grab their arm.

Mo was failing and Edris was falling, making Chelimo look like the chump when really he was the champ. No one was as strong as Chelimo today.

Also, you see Kejelcka pushing on Edris BECAUSE HE IS FALLING!!!

what i see wrote:

what i see wrote:

To me, it looks like Mo pushed Edris with right arm and used his right arm to block Chelimo's advance.

If someone elbows you in the gut, you will probably grab their arm.

Mo was failing and Edris was falling, making Chelimo look like the chump when really he was the champ. No one was as strong as Chelimo today.

Also, you see Kejelcka pushing on Edris BECAUSE HE IS FALLING!!!

Also, Edris is definitely invading Chelimo's "personal space." Look at his hand? Looks like Donald Trump...

wejo wrote:

I emailed Colonel Sean Ryan who is the Army Distance Coach and Director of Communications for WCAP and asked him about what Chelimo said about the uniform and how he wore it last year.

Sean wrote back, "As for the singlet, I've told my athletes not to wear U.S. Army gear while overseas for security reasons, including training runs and competition. As Soldiers, they have to remain vigilant and not stand out as best as they can, and another reason WCAP is different from other professional athletes.

As for last year, I wasn't the military coach, but I can tell you I can't allow my guys to become targets, which is why I personally escorted them to and from London stadium."

- I call BS! on LTC Ryan .... Zurich? Targets? This is the same crap that Chelimo did at UNC-G so he could take the prize money/endorsements "under-the-table."

- So LTC Ryan is "packing" in London? He would have to be ... him personally escorting Chucklehead Chelimo to the stadium is no deterrent. C'mon WEJO!!

- Why didn't you ask LTC Ryan who paid for the trip? Most likely the US taxpayer! Why was he there? Good per diem in Zurich!

- They aren't Soldiers!

Private Ryan wrote:

wejo wrote:

I emailed Colonel Sean Ryan who is the Army Distance Coach and Director of Communications for WCAP and asked him about what Chelimo said about the uniform and how he wore it last year.

Sean wrote back, "As for the singlet, I've told my athletes not to wear U.S. Army gear while overseas for security reasons, including training runs and competition. As Soldiers, they have to remain vigilant and not stand out as best as they can, and another reason WCAP is different from other professional athletes.

As for last year, I wasn't the military coach, but I can tell you I can't allow my guys to become targets, which is why I personally escorted them to and from London stadium."

Isn't this statement about a uniform a little ironic, considering we're talking about soldiers? What is going on here?

- You are tracking .... so of all singlets Chelimo chooses the same uniform as his fellow Kenyans from Nike. Like that Nike outfit is "off-the-rack" at Dick's Sporting Goods. LTC Ryan & Chelimo are on the cusps of a Govt, Fraud, Waste, & Abuse scandal --- Army Strong!!!

runnerdood wrote:

It was pretty clear that Paul pushed Edris but how was Paul able to get by him? I understand the rules, and Paul should be DQ'ed. But if anything, he should be rewarded 4/5th place. Besides 1-4, excluding Paul, none of the other runners were in the mix. Just sucks that Paul doesn't get anything out of it but that's the rules.

"But if anything, he should be rewarded 4/5th place. Besides 1-4, excluding Paul, none of the other runners were in the mix"

But thats not how track and field works

Mater a fact, how any sport works

Actually Chelimo got boxed in by Barega about 150m out. Certainly poor tactics from Chelimo because it was to late then to back off and sweep wide around corner. And look at the lane Edris is running in with 80m to go. Outside portion of lane 2. That left a huge gap for Chelimo to move into which Edris notices with 15m left and swerves right across into lane one and into Chelimo. If anything the incident was caused by Edris moving over so suddenly. Chelimo probably put his hand on Edris to stop falling over himself. Anyway still very poor tactics from 220m out by Chelimo but Edris did not have to move to the inside so rapidly. Only reason to block Chelimo.

To me it looks like all these guys were pushed over by Ben True.

not sure on rules wrote:

I just watched the video in slow mo. while sprinting, if someone falls in front of you and slows down and you put your hands up is that considered pushing?

He is pushing and grabbing. Quite clear. It was also his tactical error not to run around them.

Edris cut across in front of Chelimo and tripped himself.

What a cheat this guy is.

runnerdood wrote:

It was pretty clear that Paul pushed Edris but how was Paul able to get by him? I understand the rules, and Paul should be DQ'ed. But if anything, he should be rewarded 4/5th place. Besides 1-4, excluding Paul, none of the other runners were in the mix. Just sucks that Paul doesn't get anything out of it but that's the rules.

If you understand the rules then don't complain. DQ is DQ for the race, period. It's an all or none rule. Do you want achievers medals to all runners as well? Please.

Remember when Mo Farah used to win races?

Anybody have a video link to this race? I can't find one on youtube.

This seems like at least the third time Chelimo has been involved in a questionable finish. The 2016 Rio Olympic DQ that was overturned, the moving out to lane 4 in the Trials, and this race in Zurich. Seems like a pattern to me.