Laura Muir 5000m in 14:49.12!! INDOORS

Trackbot! VDOT 4:01 1500m

TrackBot! VDOT 4:01 1500m

VDOT for 4:01 1.5km: 69.7

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:23:37

Half marathon: 01:08:34

15K: 00:47:42

10K: 00:31:06

5K: 00:14:58

3Mi: 00:14:25

2Mi: 00:09:18

3200m: 00:09:14

3K: 00:08:36

1Mi: 00:04:21

1600m: 00:04:19

1500m: 00:04:01

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HardLoper wrote:

sent received wrote:

I think most people would agree that her performances are suspect

No one but you and your two alternate usernames agree so far

No, I said it a few months ago. Three breakouts, all Scots.

And that guy in the ARD video that was buying the stuff in Iten was a Scot

VDOT for 4:01 1.5km: 69.7

Equivalent race times based on VDOT:

Marathon: 02:23:37

Half marathon: 01:08:34

15K: 00:47:42

10K: 00:31:06

5K: 00:14:58

3Mi: 00:14:25

2Mi: 00:09:18

3200m: 00:09:14

3K: 00:08:36

1Mi: 00:04:21

1600m: 00:04:19

1500m: 00:04:01

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Has no one heard of Jordan Hasay? THE Jordan Hasay?

3'55 is nothing special at all for africans & muir has probably realised that

genze ran 3'50-flat & if not for appalling pacing from chanelle or whoever was that inept pacer on 1st coupla laps wouda run ~ 3'48 !!!

just look at genetics & her sister who holds 5k wr at 14'11 & wouda been ~ 14'05 - 14'07.5 with perfect even-pace & drafted to 3k

sister alone just off genetics shouda been close to 3'50 if she'd bothered with a 1500 at her 5k prime

just for example, let's say tirunesh/ayana/defar coud run 14'05 - 14'07.5 at even-pace

you have to estimate their concurrent 400 or 800, lets go with 800 as easier to digest/understand for middle distance

i doubt anyone seiously reckons those 3 coudn't have run 2-flat at the time ->

2'00 / 14'05 - 14'07.5 ->

2'32.4

3'54.8 - 3'55.1

4'13.1 - 4'13.4

5'19.0 - 5'19.5

8'11.2 - 8'12.2

& i'm using a very ungenerous 2-flat

canova said wang was capable at best of 55.5 & ethiopys no faster than 54.5 :

using suggested 400 speed of 54.5 for ethiopians, which looks fair value, with 14'05 - 14'07.5 :

54.5 / 14'05 - 14'07.5 ->

1'56.2 - 1'56.3

2'28.2 - 2'28.4

3'50.1 - 3'50.5

4'08.4 - 4'08.8

5'14.3 - 5'14.9

8'07.2 - 8'08.4

which tallies virtually 100% with "genetic argument" :

if genze, specialising at 1500 was capable of 3'48 in a "perfect race", her sister shouda been capable of close, maybe 3'50 off 5k training which woud offer her not enough speed for her "ultimate" 1500

No Man is an wrote:

HardLoper wrote:

No one but you and your two alternate usernames agree so far

No, I said it a few months ago. Three breakouts, all Scots.

And that guy in the ARD video that was buying the stuff in Iten was a Scot

3 Scots breakout year.

All of them questioned on letsrun.

No Man is an wrote:

No Man is an wrote:

No, I said it a few months ago. Three breakouts, all Scots.

And that guy in the ARD video that was buying the stuff in Iten was a Scot

3 Scots breakout year.

All of them questioned on letsrun.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7737075

Andrew Butchard

"Two years ago, Andrew was working as a lifeguard at Gleneagles hotel to fund his way on to the international circuit to keep his Olympic dreams on track."

Olympics - 13:08

blow my floats wrote:

Pajama Aden wrote:

"I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles."

-Lance Armstrong

You guys should just stay playing warcraft and forget about sports.

And there is nothing miraculous about breaking a UK record. Its the UK after all.

This girl is a talent. Something you joggers would never relate to. All you doper accusers. Just cos you are slower than a girl, reflects more on your lack of ability.

fck off

Ok moran, when was the last time you watched athletics? Off the top of my head:

1:41.7

3:28.8

3:46.3

12:53

26:46

1:56

3:55.2

14:29

30:00

2:15 marathon

MY GOD you are thick.

posters need to realise that if you have awesome over-distance, then sometimes like tirunesh/defar/ayana, then an awesome 1500/mile is possible

people swoon over Komen with 7'20 endurance, the next year being able to run 3'46.3

they are quite happy to think

"3'46 is damn damn good even with 7'20 to bring to table"

they are happy to offer top distance guy a very, very good 1500/mile but not fantastic

i once, briefly held to that nonsense-allusion

i saw that 3'46 race at the time but didn't tape it

i've seen vid now & analysed closely :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNJvjal6FbY

please analyse Komen as closely as possible from gun

( it is difficult with such a big field & may take you many minutes, but it is well worth it as it will change your thinking )

Komen was screwed in that mile with huge field, where he was baulked twice at start !!!, costing time, then got so p!ssed-off he took a straight right turn into lane 3 !!! running huge amount extra

he then proceeded to make a suicidal sprint to get towards the lead by 1/2 lap !!!, blowing his wad in 1st 1/2 lap !!!

he still had 3.5 laps to go !!!

he then did lot of pacing for hicham & even ran wide on last bend & still clocked 54.3 for last 400 with wide running on last bend !!!

all the handicaps above, which include 2 baulks + well over 10m++ extra on wide bend running + suicidal early sprint + still enough gas to run 54+ last lap indicate Komen that day in a small field in a hichamless race to disturb him, in even-apced race, drafted to bell, shouda run

~ 3'43+

that indicates that if you have fantastic over-distance endurance, you are not limited to just a very, very good 1500/mile, but WR 1500 or mile !!!

Training ? wrote:

Of course people have questions!

It's only human to wonder how someone could be so exceptional. I've got a specific query though. Muir and her coach don't go on the regular UK Athletics warm weather training camps but instead go to South Africa. 'Does anyone know where they train for these three weeks or who they train with?

The camp at Potchefstroom is only 4430 feet, not like Iten, but less heat?

3.41 I'd say.

By heat I mean ARD and the doorbell ringing.

You're clearly a butthurt American. You also used the word frickin.......

Ok moran, when was the last time you watched athletics? Off the top of my head:

1:41.7

3:28.8

3:46.3

12:53

26:46

1:56

3:55.2

14:29

30:00

2:15 marathon

MY GOD you are thick.[/quote]

Off the top of your head? How many open national medals do you have?

Who even are you

who do you think you are wrote:

Who even are you

Andy Vermin