Gay Agenda's next target: Frozen 2

thejeff think it through dude wrote:

Thejeff wrote:

90% of the posters on these boards weren't around before TV, dude.

Once again you have made a statement without thinking it through, and when called on it, make an irrelevant response. You clearly meant it as a generalization.

Not fair. Since you are obviously a f*cking mind reader, nobody thinks things through as well as you do.

However, I meant people reading these boards. If I meant "humans throughout history", I would have said "humans throughout history", and I would have referenced cave drawings instead of TV.

But, you already knew I was going to say that, didn't you?

N0bama... wrote:

Thejeff wrote:

3. Of course no one is going to turn a kid gay...just like no one is going to turn a kid into a drug abuser, or an alcoholic, or anything else. Those lifestyles are all choices...but we can help our youth by exposing them to the dangers of those types of lifestyles at appropriate developmental stages, and I maintain that a G rated movie is not the proper place for it.

So are you saying that if you had just watched a couple movies with gay characters when you were a kid, you too might be gay? Oh, the fragility of your sexuality.

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

letsracer wrote:

Thejeff wrote:

1. I am going to go out on a limb and say that Frozen has made at least five times as much money as GoT.

2. GoT is not geared towards little children.

3. Soft core porn and children's animation are not in the same genre. I think u meant "same setting".

the world is changing thejeff, there was a time when children didn't even learn Calculus, in the dark ages before Newton. What do you know.

Frozen is not "geared towards adults", and yet they watch it. GoT is not geared towards children and yet they read and watch it. Children grow up earlier these days and we need to prepare them.

I agree with every word of this post. To be clear, my stance is NOT that our children need to be sheltered indefinitely. However, Godfather, Game of Thrones, and homosexuality need not be introduced at a developmental stage associated with G ratings.

When IS it appropriate? Hell if I know. I am trying to figure out this whole adulthood thing the same as the rest of you. But I assure you, if you don't already have kids, your thinking will completely change on these issues when you do. Your stances may not change, but your thinking certainly will.

thejeff wrote:

N0bama... wrote:

So are you saying that if you had just watched a couple movies with gay characters when you were a kid, you too might be gay? Oh, the fragility of your sexuality.

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

This kid doesn't understand ANYTHING. Terrible analogies. Terrible rationalization and logic. Terrible everything. Thanks for the good laugh.

macdaddy wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

This kid doesn't understand ANYTHING. Terrible analogies. Terrible rationalization and logic. Terrible everything. Thanks for the good laugh.

Please do better. Popcorn ready.

thejeff wrote:

Godfather, Game of Thrones, and homosexuality need not be introduced at a developmental stage associated with G ratings.

Frozen was not rated G.

It was PG.

Your thought is that showing a same sex love interest or relationship is equivalent to graphic violence, strong sexual content and nudity, correct?

But leave the G rated talk out because it was never a G movie.

rojo wrote:

L L wrote:

I think Hollywood has done a lot of glamorizing the mafia.

They surely glamorize guns.

Should we be concerned about the agenda of violence the same?

I've watched the Godfather and the Birdcage.

I haven't gotten into crime or tried to get close to another dude.

This thread was deleted by a moderator. I got a request to put it back up so I read it and decided to put it back up. The post above was a very smart one. Nice post."

I disagree, it was a point that argued against his own position. Yes, we should be concerned about violence in movies and children's exposure to that violence. Given the spate of mass shootings in schools/movie theaters and studies showing a link between violence in movies/video games with violence by kids I think we should be VERY concerned and we should be finding ways to either limit kids' exposure to it or teach them that it is unacceptable in the real world. Movies with gay themes are just the opposite. They have never been shown to have a deleterious effect on children so I see no need to try to shield kids from seeing them. The explicitness needs to be age appropriate of course. While some will argue that homosexuality and a tendency toward violence are both genetically preprogrammed, violence hurts others while sex between two consenting adults hurts no one.

Contrary wrote:

While some will argue that homosexuality and a tendency toward violence are both genetically preprogrammed, violence hurts others while sex between two consenting adults hurts no one.

Unless you're into that sort of thing ;-). My safe word is Rupp

thejeff wrote:

N0bama... wrote:

So are you saying that if you had just watched a couple movies with gay characters when you were a kid, you too might be gay? Oh, the fragility of your sexuality.

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

So if you see gay behavior now, you are tempted? If it's a choice, it's must be appealing in some way.

I don't know about you, but at no point did I desire gay sex. Before I had any idea what sex was, I was more interested in females. I didn't choose it, it just happened.

Bop wrote:

Unless you're into that sort of thing ;-). My safe word is Rupp

Good point! Consent is obviously crucial. Personally not into giving or receiving pain but different strokes for different folks (pun intended).

;) wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

So if you see gay behavior now, you are tempted? If it's a choice, it's must be appealing in some way.

I don't know about you, but at no point did I desire gay sex. Before I had any idea what sex was, I was more interested in females. I didn't choose it, it just happened.

I disagree. What set of movies were you interested in as a child? 80s baby with Rogers rabbit/little mermaid or 90s baby with Aladdin and Lion King? What if these movies had homosexual characters?!?!?!? You have Disney to thank for your sexuality.

;) wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Who knows?

I was as malleable as the next kid. I was exposed to heterosexual relationships, and next thing I knew, I desired heterosexual relationships. I was exposed to alcohol, and next thing I knew, I desired alcohol.

More importantly, you talk about sexuality as if it is a thing beyond our control. It is not; that is one of many things that separates us from other animals.

So if you see gay behavior now, you are tempted? If it's a choice, it's must be appealing in some way.

I don't know about you, but at no point did I desire gay sex. Before I had any idea what sex was, I was more interested in females. I didn't choose it, it just happened.

You are comparing a developing child to a mature adult. Surely you see the disconnect.

L L wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Godfather, Game of Thrones, and homosexuality need not be introduced at a developmental stage associated with G ratings.

Frozen was not rated G.

It was PG.

Your thought is that showing a same sex love interest or relationship is equivalent to graphic violence, strong sexual content and nudity, correct?

But leave the G rated talk out because it was never a G movie.

Holy crap, you are right. Interesting read:

Macdaddy wrote:

;) wrote:

So if you see gay behavior now, you are tempted? If it's a choice, it's must be appealing in some way.

I don't know about you, but at no point did I desire gay sex. Before I had any idea what sex was, I was more interested in females. I didn't choose it, it just happened.

I disagree. What set of movies were you interested in as a child? 80s baby with Rogers rabbit/little mermaid or 90s baby with Aladdin and Lion King? What if these movies had homosexual characters?!?!?!? You have Disney to thank for your sexuality.

Notably the hidden "good teenagers take off their clothes" line in Aladdin... did it affect me? Well, it sure as $h!+ didn't slow things down any :-)

Yeah.

Frozen is already not allowed to be shown in elementary schools because of its PG rating.

My wife is a kindergarten teacher and has trouble finding G rated movies for the kids.

The Muppet Movie (1979) yes

The Muppets (2011) no

Frozen - no

Tangled - no

Finding Nemo - yes

Up - no

Hotel Transylvania - no

The Lego Movie - no

Gone with the Wind is rated G (I am sure that would change now)

So is Ben Hur

Macdaddy wrote:

You have Disney to thank for your sexuality.

So again, you are so prone to suggestion that if you had watched movies with gay characters, there's a good chance you would now be gay?

;) wrote:

Macdaddy wrote:

You have Disney to thank for your sexuality.

So again, you are so prone to suggestion that if you had watched movies with gay characters, there's a good chance you would now be gay?

Extreme sarcasm, my man. I'm on your team.

macdaddy wrote:

;) wrote:

So again, you are so prone to suggestion that if you had watched movies with gay characters, there's a good chance you would now be gay?

Extreme sarcasm, my man. I'm on your team.

Isn't that a homosexual euphemism? ;-)

;) wrote:

Macdaddy wrote:

You have Disney to thank for your sexuality.

So again, you are so prone to suggestion that if you had watched movies (at a young age) with gay characters, there's a good chance you would now be gay?

Sorry to interject (and I know Macdaddy was being sarcastic):

If you substitute "good chance you would now be gay" with "better chance you would have had homosexual feelings/experimentation" and insert my phrase above, then the question would absolutely be YES.

You really have no idea how video games and movies affect developing minds, do you?