What WRs could Jakob *not* threaten between 1500-10km?

Watch Jacob at Hytteplanmila 2019.
in his only official try ever he ran 27:54 in a wet hilly 10k in 2019 getting the Norwegian record from Sondre Moen at that point. I know there is a long way to 26:11 but that run tells me that 10k is not really out of his comfort zone
I think he can threaten the 10k wr at one point

he has a decent WR shot from 1500m-3k. i don't think he is a threat at the 5k-10k range

jakob is a lot faster than many 5000m-Marathon runners in the 1500m than he is faster in the 3000m. this kinda implies he'll be less effective as the distance gets longer. the reason why i can't rule him out of the 3000m is because he did phenomenally in the 3000m as a 1500m runner and if he had focus specifically for the 3000m, he'd shouldn't have issues shaving off at least a few seconds

He just crushed a record held by a 12:39 guy and has a faster mile 1500 than Komen.

7:20 is definitely threatened already and to think this guy cant easily run under 12:40 now is nuts.

sub 12:35 is a lock for jakob whenever he wants

He will eat your Kiplimo/Aregawi/Cheptegei...
don't hide the sun with a tamis.

(with your abomination username)

I think Just 10,000. Since he has yet to compete it seriously. His current capacity is somewhat like:

3:25.90 - 3:26.90 1500m

3:43.00 - 3:44.10 Mile

4:44.40 - 4:45.90 2000m

7:19.00 - 7:20.60 3000m

7:53.00 - 7:54.00 Two Miles

12:29.00 - 12:40.00 5000m

If you notice I'm not saying for certain he's likely to hold a monopoly on any of El Guerrouj's WRs because El Guerrouj was no joke. As for Daniel Komen's 3000m. Despite what many believe I don't think he'll ever go below 7:19 (I could stand corrected). His 5000m has a large range because of his lack of time trials in them. So anything above 5k will be a huge speculation and most runners peak around age 25 in these events, so he doesn't have time to waste when PRing. That's why I think he's doing all these time trial WR attempts now because he knows his peak fitness is right now to attack. I can say for certain he can go under 27 in the 10k, 60-70% under 26:50, 25-30% under 26:40 but anything above 26:30 is uncertain. And he'll likely never attack Half Marathon or Marathon, so his monopoly is strictly Middle Distance Running.

mile, 5k, steeple, 10k.

Completely agree although id put his 10k at 26:25 at best.

Girma is overrated not sure why he gets so much love on these boards.

7:23 3k indoors is 'overrated'? And obviously he's way behind Jakob in the 1500, off of steeple training, but still good enough to beat Josh Kerr... The only one overrating Girma is Temp_Account who keeps saying he can run 3:24.

Komen's 7:20:67 for 3000 is unbeatable. It will stand for decades.

Jakob's Two Mile WR averages a 7:21.89 3000m. So he's off by a second and ran an extra 200m+ . I don't know man, I'd give it a couple more years. Regardless, Lamecha Girma and Mo Katir both went under his 7:24.90 Indoor 3000m WR. So we currently have 3 candidates to this record and all 3 are young.

You need an update.

That's what we thought until 9th of June of this year, when Jakob blew our minds with a stellar performance (7:54) in the 2miles (3218m), which is about the same level as a 7:20 3000m.

He can get them all - question is could he get them all in 2023?
How important is that to him? He's the biggest talent I've seen as a distance runner

Just annihilates everyone - 754 2 miles who would have thought?

Your predictions are unreliable!

Some few month ago you came with a number of other predictions which turned out to be COMPLETELY wrong.

Now you quietly adjust your predictions according to the the times Jakob has run in the 1500m and 2 mile in the meantime.

But you will be wromg again because you don´t get that he is still improving and will do that for a number of years to come.

Show a little bit humility and STOP DENIGRATING K. BEKELE. EVEN THOUGH JAKOB SURPASSES BEKELE (WHICH I AGREE HE WILL) BEKELE WILL STILL BE ONE OF THE ALL TIME GREATS.

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The 10000m: As "impala" already has stated:

If you are an excellent 5000m runner you will also be an excellent 10000m runner. Besides:

Jakob´s training has always been more suitable for long distance running.

Thanks for the web link est un tautre. Bislett was just as fast for the first three laps as Silesia, and still he said “he went early in to the lactate”. I just translated the article:

“The sun is setting over the magnificent Slaski Stadium in Chorzow. Jakob Ingebrigtsen has finished jogging down. He wrings off the top of his running jersey before taking a few last drags across the artificial grass on the warm-up track. He looks up in the air, and sighs lightly. - I felt better at Bislett, that is, he says. It is less than an hour since he has run 3.27.14 in 1500 metres. It is a personal record and a European record. And that makes him the fourth fastest of all time at the iconic middle distance. Down to the world record, it is "only" 1.14 seconds. And when Ingebrigtsen now stands and says that he felt better when he ran on his home track in June, it is like music to the ears of those who believe that the epic record of Hicham El Geurrouj is soon to fall.

The number crunchers are already starting to see what is needed. Statistics and results guru, Anders Huun Monsen, yesterday published a comparison between the passing times of the two races on his Twitter account. And with Ingebrigtsen's statement that he felt better at Bislett, the figures become extra interesting to look at.

Bislett (Oslo):

400m: 55.7

800m: 1.51.9

1100m: 2.33.0

1200m: 2.46.9

1500m: 3.27.95

Silesia (Poland):

400m: 55.8

800 m: 1.51.6

1100m: 2.33.1

1200m: 2.46.9

1500m: 3.27.14

And if you break down these numbers, you will see that the opening in the two races are almost identical. The big difference is that the last 300 meters for Ingebrigtsen in Poland were markedly better than in Oslo. And that on a day he himself describes as a little heavier.

For comparison, El Guerrouj passed the following times in his record run:

400m: 55.0

800 m: 1.50.7

1100m: 2.32.7

1200m: 2.46.3

And with a tremendous finish in the last 300 in 39.66 seconds, the Moroccan clocked in at 3.26 blank.

The record from 1998 has remained as one of the impossible records to break. The biggest difference between El Geurrouj and Ingebrigtsen is the speed in the first 400. There, El Guerrouj takes 0.8 seconds on the Norwegian. Up to 1200 meters the speed is roughly the same. While Ingebrigtsen loses about 0.5 seconds to the world record holder in the last 300 meters. And this is where the key to breaking the record lies. A little faster at the start and end, and you're there.”

In this thread I pretty much said the same thing but, included an estimate with Half Marathon and Marathon. And with the 3000 being 7:18.

and With Grant Fisher in Lieven I was wrong, he totally flopped.

But hey. I'm glad you love to follow my posts. Want my address next?

It's not overrate. See that 3;29:51 in the second attempt after 3 days of race?
It's you fans with the obsessive idea to see Jakob alone in the area.

Remember when after winning the Euros 5,000m dad Gjert said Jakob could run sub 13 and most laughed? Well, Dad said a few years back that Jakob could run a half under 60 mins and it was based on scientific analysis

Do you have problems with the memory too?

You wrote this the 21st of March this year:

"
As much as I'd like for Ingebrigtsen to be the #1 Mid Distance Runner
in the world. I just don't see it happening. He'll likely peak by 2028
Olympics and Based on how he has ran since 2020, It could be something
in the realm of:
1500m (3:27.50-90) Current: 3:28.32
Mile
(3:45.90-Current PB) Current: 3:46.46 — He needed a Pacelight +
Supershoes to barely be below the European Record of Cram in Oslo. Don't
see a race that'll give him better conditions and exact pacing. Though,
if he has yet to reach his peak, I can definitely see him going under
3:46. But, I'd be a betting man to say he'd likely never go under 3:45.
Given what Jakob needed to hit 3:46 mid. It's unlikely he'd compete with
El G, Noah Ngeny, or Noureddine Morceli. Plus, for someone like Jakob
to have a 1% Increase in PB at his age and level of fitness would be
doping levels of Insanity. His 1500m PB under the greatest momentum at
the Olympic Finals only transitions to 3:43.51 *If he held it an extra
109.344m*. At age 23, Hicham DID have a similar 1500 PB to Jakob at
3:28.91 BUT, Hicham was already a 3:44 Miler. So his strength was
Certainly better.
2000m (4:50.01 — Unlikely to PB on a rare event)
3000m
(7:25.60 - 7:26.50) — He's a strong runner but I definitely don't see
him going below 7:25. Given his focus on the 1500m will be his downfall.
He does have Sub-7:25 potential if he smartly shifts from the 1500.
Two
Miles (8:03-8:05) — Hitting a Sub-8 just isn't in Jakob's capacity. Guy
barely dipped below 4:00/mile pace for 3K let alone hold it another
200m
5000m (12:40-12:45) — IF he plays it smart and starts
focusing on the 5K like Komen did around the same time he was in his
1500 prime. He definitely could go below 12:40. But, I feel like Yared
Nuguse's rise and Getting upset by Jake Wightman at World's is certainly
getting to Jakob. So he'll most likely be laser focused on the 1500
especially with World's and Olympics in the next Two years.
10,000m
(Sub 27:10) — For some reason It's pretty rare for many Sub 3:30
1500/13:00 5K runners to actually perform well at the 10K level. Only
exception was Mo Farah. But beyond him — Komen (27:38), Lagat (27:47),
and a couple others. ***Granted, I do believe Gebrselassie in 1998
(3:31.76 Indoor 1500) would've been a Sub-3:30 guy but, we never got to
see it.
and Given The usual patterns of Distance greats, I don't
see Jakob becoming a road runner or Marathoner. Atleast not while he's
in his 20s by his 30s he'd probably fade and be like 1:00-1:02 Half
Marathon / Sub-2:10 Marathoner and Just call it quits. Huge speculation
but many Greats rarely care for the Marathon."

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Do you understand why it is difficult to see you as a serious poster?

By the way:

I have no idea about what you wrote about Fisher.

I saw your above post when I recently revisited that thread and I noticed your naughty posts about K. Bekele and then saw your predictions on this thread.

I think you understand that I don´t love your posts but I find it interesting that some people write non sense posts with so much confidence.