Time to get Vaccinated

comedyre1!3f wrote:

how long wrote:

How long until this thread is deleted, yet the many COVID misinformation threads allowed to stay up.

Youtube suspended Rand Paul for citing two peer reviewed studies that essentially confirm that cloth masks don't really work. Misinformation is a gray area.

You absolutely should listen to your doctor over Fox news medical experts and CNNs medical experts as they are biased. Science can be trusted but scientists are man and should not always be as all men are fallible and can be bought . Every vaccine that comes along is, in a sense , experimental. Rand Paul should Not be censored any more than Dr. Fauci. This virus happened during an election year and politicians ruined it on BOTH sides.

Arrhenius wrote:

If 95% of the folks getting covid and in hospitals now are unvaxxed, what do you care? You are vaxxed, so you should be happy and have absolutely nothing to worry about. I am unvaxxed and am more than willing on taking on the risk of getting the delta, delta+, lambda, or whatever new variant comes our way. My salvation is from Christ, not from some man-made vaccine! I don't live my life in fear!

I care because I choose to be a health care provider and have served for 24 years. I worry that because, due to the lack of vaccinations, our country and world will get 'shut down ' down again resulting in more damage than the virus ever could do. I am a Christian and will NEVER apologize for being so.

snowflake hunter wrote:

Cleverly focusing on the bullet that makes your smooth brain happy

"The CDC said that new evidence shows that breakthrough infections among those who got their two shots may be as transmissible as those in unvaccinated people."

while ignoring

"The CDC acknowledges that it is struggling to communicate that breakthrough cases are "rare" or a "small percentage" of total cases."

Being vaccinated is still much much safer and less likely to cause transmission than not being vaccinated.

I bet that you are a liberal. However, I agree with you on this. We can do more of this.

snowflake hunter wrote:

Cleverly focusing on the bullet that makes your smooth brain happy

"The CDC said that new evidence shows that breakthrough infections among those who got their two shots may be as transmissible as those in unvaccinated people."

while ignoring

"The CDC acknowledges that it is struggling to communicate that breakthrough cases are "rare" or a "small percentage" of total cases."

Being vaccinated is still much much safer and less likely to cause transmission than not being vaccinated.

You got caught in a lie and now want to change the topic.

Typical of a Covid Believer. Can never admit they were proved wrong,

Tommy2Nuttz wrote:

no peace until wrote:

While there is tons of misinformation coming from BOTH sides and very mixed scientific messages, ......

Kindly get lost with your "both sides" nonsense.

Tell us which Left wing argument has resulted in people literally killing themselves with Covid.

This lies ENTIRELY on the Republicans and epecially on the ignorant Trump voters. Its people like you who wont clue them into the realities of the Deltavariant,.

Its YOUR PARTY that is getting YOUR OWN BASE killed and spreading it to the rest of us.

And you're busy whining about the both sides crap.

I am urging people, as not only a conservative, but also a health care provider, to get the damn vaccine and this is your take on it?

no peace until wrote:

Arrhenius wrote:

If 95% of the folks getting covid and in hospitals now are unvaxxed, what do you care? You are vaxxed, so you should be happy and have absolutely nothing to worry about. I am unvaxxed and am more than willing on taking on the risk of getting the delta, delta+, lambda, or whatever new variant comes our way. My salvation is from Christ, not from some man-made vaccine! I don't live my life in fear!

I care because I choose to be a health care provider and have served for 24 years. I worry that because, due to the lack of vaccinations, our country and world will get 'shut down ' down again resulting in more damage than the virus ever could do. I am a Christian and will NEVER apologize for being so.

Let me know when Amazon and Walmart get shut down.

Stop being a sucker

Flagpole wrote:

flyingfrog wrote:

Plea from healthcare provider "100% of abrtsn are fatal. All of the victims are young children. Please stop this before you get your vaccination."

A fetus is not a child, so, you lose.

If you don't abort it it will be.

OOOf, thisthat wrote:

no peace until wrote:

I am a health care provider in the south. Right now, we are exploding with in patient Covid + patients. 95% or so are non vaccinated. I am a staunch Conservative. I hate that the virus and vaccine have become so politicized. While there is tons of misinformation coming from BOTH sides and very mixed scientific messages, the vaccine is the best tool we have to combat the virus and get back, or at least close to, normal. It's not perfect, but it is very effective. I got one and urge you to. Please consider.

No, not being fat or diabetic is the best tool we have to combat the virus and get back, but nobody mentions that.

Ok, obesity is mostly a choice. Diabetes is mostly not a choice.

dex wrote:

OOOf, thisthat wrote:

No, not being fat or diabetic is the best tool we have to combat the virus and get back, but nobody mentions that.

well that eliminates 90% of anti-vaxxers

LOL. It's funny 'cause it's true!

From what I've read, those viruses weren't able to cause global calamity so they didn't get the attention and funding that Covid has. Not that I agree with it, it is what it is. Plus, the lethal viruses tend to kill off their hosts and limit their own destruction.

I think this is reasonable, and reasonably presented. Thank you.

This guy gets on effing nerves, but he is mostly right here. Lol

Yes. Tribalism will destroy US way quicker than Russia, China, The Virus, or even Climate Crisis

The Unkle wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

A fetus is not a child, so, you lose.

If you don't abort it it will be.

+1

The Unkle wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

A fetus is not a child, so, you lose.

If you don't abort it it will be.

People refer to abortions as "killing children" (as did the fool above) and that's not accurate. A fetus is not a child. And beyond that, not all would become children either, so you are also wrong.

I understand that it is difficult to convey tone in text, so I want to preface by saying I don’t intend for the following to be argumentative: I think either I am misunderstanding your response, you misunderstood the question I was trying to pose, or a little of both.

Various vaccines for coronaviruses have been attempted before. Not a single one was brought past trial stage due to various complications, most notably, ADE.

This was being investigated and discussed in academia early on in the Covid-19 vaccine development. Here is a link to an article from Nature last September with several quotes copied/pasted below:

“ Antibody-based drugs and vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) are being expedited through preclinical and clinical development. Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials.”

“ ADE has been observed in SARS, MERS and other human respiratory virus infections including RSV and measles, which suggests a real risk of ADE for SARS-CoV-2 vaccines and antibody-based interventions. However, clinical data has not yet fully established a role for ADE in human COVID-19 pathology. Steps to reduce the risks of ADE from immunotherapies include the induction or delivery of high doses of potent neutralizing antibodies, rather than lower concentrations of non-neutralizing antibodies that would be more likely to cause ADE.

The Unkle wrote:

snowflake hunter wrote:

Cleverly focusing on the bullet that makes your smooth brain happy

"The CDC said that new evidence shows that breakthrough infections among those who got their two shots may be as transmissible as those in unvaccinated people."

while ignoring

"The CDC acknowledges that it is struggling to communicate that breakthrough cases are "rare" or a "small percentage" of total cases."

Being vaccinated is still much much safer and less likely to cause transmission than not being vaccinated.

You got caught in a lie and now want to change the topic.

Typical of a Covid Believer. Can never admit they were proved wrong,

Incredible amount of projection. Cognitive dissonance hurts so you just ignore anything that doesn't fit. The unvaccinated are vastly more likely to have transmissible levels of virus as indicated in your own article but when presented with this, your frontal lobe gives into the lizard brain and you lash out rather than bothering to understand.