Now 1,000 Americans are dying a day, will the deniers apologize?

Bye bye Boris.

Breaking: Boris Johnson Moved to Intensive Care

Stupidity killed wrote:

Giles Corey wrote:

Every week more restrictions.

Here in MA....parking lots to beaches closed down last Friday.

Now curfews in some towns, talk of requiring masks to go outside.

The Hell with this nonsense.

Not surprised to see you're a Masshole.

Where as you are one without the lead M

[quote]real info wrote:

All these "But Fauci said in January" retorts from the anti-vaxxers are idiotic.

It's a new disease. We still know very little about it. We don't even know for sure if recovering from the disease makes you immune, like chicken pox, or not, like the common cold, or if it's something in between like the flue.

So you have no issue with The Expert making definitive comments in Late Jan and early Feb that America has no real worries over this disease and then making a 180 degree turn a few weeks later?

Nothing suspicious about that at all?

coronasceptic wrote:

You're right, in the US it's a one day decline but a decent one AND deaths in almost every major country have declined for the last few days. And worldwide yesterday was 1,200 below three days ago. It's early to officially call the top but it's looking like one....

Hell, they have been telling us for a while that the first two weeks of April will be the worst and then things will get better.

They are sticking to the narrative.

Facts Matter? wrote:

I was asked a while ago at what point I would admit I was wrong, so I'm well on record. The answer then was the same as it is now. If the coronaviorus kills 61,001 people.

ok

Lenny Leonard wrote:

Yessiree Bob wrote:

Give it a couple of weeks.

You keep saying that. We are basically at the peak now. In a couple weeks we will be breathing a sigh of relief. There will still be many sick, but this thing will be losing serious steam.

ok Lenny

promises matter wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

You keep saying that. We are basically at the peak now. In a couple weeks we will be breathing a sigh of relief. There will still be many sick, but this thing will be losing serious steam.

ok Lenny

that was from 4/01....Lenny saying we'd all be breathing a sigh of relief by 4/14

nope

slippery wrote:

Anyone who adopts the handle “Armstonglivs” is very clearly immune to bull poop, sees right through it, doesn’t waste time with cheating losing or corruption

+1

Lenny Leonard wrote:

The total deaths is increasing, yes, but that is a given.

The deaths/day is remaining stagnant or decreasing. If this was cancer, we would say it is in remission. Not cured, but not getting worse. Moving in the right direction.

Plus, I’m gonna pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans or “moving the posts.”

Two weeks ago.

That didn't age well.

realism smacks you in the mouth wrote:

Lenny Leonard wrote:

The total deaths is increasing, yes, but that is a given.

The deaths/day is remaining stagnant or decreasing. If this was cancer, we would say it is in remission. Not cured, but not getting worse. Moving in the right direction.

Plus, I’m gonna pistol whip the next person who says shenanigans or “moving the posts.”

Two weeks ago.

That didn't age well.

This website is a cesspool. The anonymous, difficult to navigate nature of the message boards means that persistent posters like Facts Matter and Bad Wiggins can make up facts, move goalposts, and ignore posts that refute or discredit their claims. Letsrun will directly contribute to the reelection of Trump.

promises matter wrote:

promises matter wrote:

ok Lenny

that was from 4/01....Lenny saying we'd all be breathing a sigh of relief by 4/14

nope

Where's Lenny now. Lenny is not only an idiot but he is a psychopath in the mold of his lord god Trump. "What happens in New York is irrelevant to me". Really? I bet he can't see how fched up that statement is.

Yes, the Financial Times (very conservative) said over 20,000 uncounted deaths possible so far just in UK.

jesseriley wrote:

Yes, the Financial Times (very conservative) said over 20,000 uncounted deaths possible so far just in UK.

What are they attributing those POSSIBLE deaths to? How do they know there are 20,000 if they are uncounted? Or, are they not sure they are actually dead, just possibly?

Words matter wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

Yes, the Financial Times (very conservative) said over 20,000 uncounted deaths possible so far just in UK.

What are they attributing those POSSIBLE deaths to? How do they know there are 20,000 if they are uncounted? Or, are they not sure they are actually dead, just possibly?

It's based on the number of registered deaths with and without Covid-19 as a contributing factor. The last 2 weeks have had the highest numbers of deaths recorded in the last 40 years (Feb 1976 sounds like a rough time).

Covid-related deaths account for something like 65% of the increase above average, so the mystery is the remaining 35% - were they not tested for Covid? Were they as a result of people not seeking treatment for other illnesses? Were they related to the lockdown? Is there something else going on?

priv wrote:

Words matter wrote:

What are they attributing those POSSIBLE deaths to? How do they know there are 20,000 if they are uncounted? Or, are they not sure they are actually dead, just possibly?

It's based on the number of registered deaths with and without Covid-19 as a contributing factor. The last 2 weeks have had the highest numbers of deaths recorded in the last 40 years (Feb 1976 sounds like a rough time).

Covid-related deaths account for something like 65% of the increase above average, so the mystery is the remaining 35% - were they not tested for Covid? Were they as a result of people not seeking treatment for other illnesses? Were they related to the lockdown? Is there something else going on?

All the above :).

Loser OP was just looking for attention like I said weeks ago.

Coronavirus is bullchit.

Well....... wrote:

priv wrote:

It's based on the number of registered deaths with and without Covid-19 as a contributing factor. The last 2 weeks have had the highest numbers of deaths recorded in the last 40 years (Feb 1976 sounds like a rough time).

Covid-related deaths account for something like 65% of the increase above average, so the mystery is the remaining 35% - were they not tested for Covid? Were they as a result of people not seeking treatment for other illnesses? Were they related to the lockdown? Is there something else going on?

All the above :).

Just to actually answer a bit more in depth, as am in the UK, here's what I think... There's some things I think the UK has actually been ok with, but they've screwed up on others.

The number one issue imo, is care homes not being protected. This is a tricky one, as they are often privately funded and cost a lot of money, and normally provide their own PPE (afaik and they should with the extreme costs for a lot of them). However, with the contention for resources with other NHS equipment, the care homes have struggled.

So I'm guessing, a reasonable amount of that figure is from care homes, who haven't had proper resources. Some are already on deaths door, and would probably be guided to not send them to A&E. I'm guessing this is the same in various countries.

Then because of the media frenzy, everyone is scared of going to hospital for other conditions now, and lots of other essential treatments have been blocked, so cancer patients etc start to suffer. The government has tried to address this somewhat, but realistically no one wants to go to hospital now, and I don't blame them. They'd rather die at home for another condition rather than get CV at the hospital, and this is one of the other issues with the lockdown and why we actually need to try and get a semblance of normality into peoples lives, so they don't feel afraid to get treatment etc.

promises matter wrote:

Facts Matter? wrote:

I was asked a while ago at what point I would admit I was wrong, so I'm well on record. The answer then was the same as it is now. If the coronaviorus kills 61,001 people.

ok

Lets see we are at 47k dead and running ~2k/day for the last 2 weeks. Does any person out there think we aren't going to blow past 61k in the next 2 weeks? Some how I doubt we are going to get an an apology.

The good news is that it looks like we are going to be much closer to 100k dead than 250k dead that models were spitting out at the start of the month if we follow the curves of italy, china, and spain. Obviously there is always the chance we get some crazy outbreak elsewhere (i.e. we are a big country. Having someplace weeks behind the rest wouldn't be absurd)