Now 1,000 Americans are dying a day, will the deniers apologize?

What is the source of your claims? Have your fact checked it and reviewed how they tested and what they tested for?

by the time this is over it could do the damage of an entire flu season in a week. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but that's the level Europe is getting to right now.

Spain just lost 1,000 people today with a population 1/7 of ours.

That converts to 49,000 a week in the US when adjusted for population.

I don't think that will happen, but very clearly the potential for that is there....it's happening in Spain right now.

not just the flu

No because there is still a belief, and rightly so, that many non-COVID deaths are being reported as COVID deaths.

now's the time wrote:

by the time this is over it could do the damage of an entire flu season in a week. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but that's the level Europe is getting to right now.

Spain just lost 1,000 people today with a population 1/7 of ours.

That converts to 49,000 a week in the US when adjusted for population.

I don't think that will happen, but very clearly the potential for that is there....it's happening in Spain right now.

not just the flu

It all depends on whether or not you believe the authenticity of the numbers. A coroner could write anything on the death certificate especially if they're part of pushing the agenda themselves.

Math Professor wrote:

What is the source of your claims? Have your fact checked it and reviewed how they tested and what they tested for?

This is a perfect example of how deniers will hide behind the scientific method forever and weasel their way out of accepting the truth.

I can tell you one thing for certain, the 2021 US team for mental gymnastics will be STACKED. Four medals in every event.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

now's the time wrote:

by the time this is over it could do the damage of an entire flu season in a week. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but that's the level Europe is getting to right now.

Spain just lost 1,000 people today with a population 1/7 of ours.

That converts to 49,000 a week in the US when adjusted for population.

I don't think that will happen, but very clearly the potential for that is there....it's happening in Spain right now.

not just the flu

It all depends on whether or not you believe the authenticity of the numbers. A coroner could write anything on the death certificate especially if they're part of pushing the agenda themselves.

So far, the only report related to death classification is that Covid 19 deaths were missed, and classified as the flu and other respiratory issues. This means if anything, Covid 19 deaths are underreported.

They're busy still denying it.

James Woods doing some denying on twitter TODAY. Todd Starnes did a denying report a few days ago. Denier Trish Regan was fired. The deniers are still out there. They won't apologize.

Trish, Todd and James Woods? wrote:

They're busy still denying it.

James Woods doing some denying on twitter TODAY. Todd Starnes did a denying report a few days ago. Denier Trish Regan was fired. The deniers are still out there. They won't apologize.

It's okay to deny it when you don't have a primary source. And an unnamed spokeserson quoted in CNN or NYTimes does not count as a primary source.

The primary sources are rarely cited in media so media as a whole is questionable. If Americans had more intellectual rigor, they would pull coroner's reports and do actual primary source validation.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

now's the time wrote:

by the time this is over it could do the damage of an entire flu season in a week. Hopefully it doesn't get that bad, but that's the level Europe is getting to right now.

Spain just lost 1,000 people today with a population 1/7 of ours.

That converts to 49,000 a week in the US when adjusted for population.

I don't think that will happen, but very clearly the potential for that is there....it's happening in Spain right now.

not just the flu

It all depends on whether or not you believe the authenticity of the numbers. A coroner could write anything on the death certificate especially if they're part of pushing the agenda themselves.

With that logic though, there isn't a single scenario in which you would ever be convinced it was a problem until millions of people were dead and it was too late to take preventative measures. Seems like a faulty approach.

You should read Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" to learn how the media operates. I is had to read it in college.

now's the time wrote:

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

It all depends on whether or not you believe the authenticity of the numbers. A coroner could write anything on the death certificate especially if they're part of pushing the agenda themselves.

With that logic though, there isn't a single scenario in which you would ever be convinced it was a problem until millions of people were dead and it was too late to take preventative measures. Seems like a faulty approach.

I appreciate that you’re doing your job, but you should go tell Vlad that the act is not believable anymore. You need to change tacks. Maybe you can push a narrative that the vaccine will make things worse. Anything would be more credible than this. I guess you can’t act for a bureaucracy like yours to be nimble and to change tactics when conditions change - but jeez.

Few of these dinosaurs gave a sh-t about the deaths during the last ~ 30 years of war.

“I is had to read it in college.”

No doubt.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Trish, Todd and James Woods? wrote:

They're busy still denying it.

James Woods doing some denying on twitter TODAY. Todd Starnes did a denying report a few days ago. Denier Trish Regan was fired. The deniers are still out there. They won't apologize.

It's okay to deny it when you don't have a primary source. And an unnamed spokeserson quoted in CNN or NYTimes does not count as a primary source.

The primary sources are rarely cited in media so media as a whole is questionable. If Americans had more intellectual rigor, they would pull coroner's reports and do actual primary source validation.

Johns Hopkins, Worldometer get reports sent from state hospitals. Not sure what other source you would consider if not the hospitals and coroners.

Your real stance is: “Unless I, Bart, armed with only a paucity of medical experience and an abundance of skepticism, can acquire HIPAA-incompliant access to individually-identifiable private health information of those allegedly fatal victims of Covid, I will not agree that any Covid deaths are anything more than mid classifications of pre-existing conditions.”

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Trish, Todd and James Woods? wrote:

They're busy still denying it.

James Woods doing some denying on twitter TODAY. Todd Starnes did a denying report a few days ago. Denier Trish Regan was fired. The deniers are still out there. They won't apologize.

It's okay to deny it when you don't have a primary source. And an unnamed spokeserson quoted in CNN or NYTimes does not count as a primary source.

The primary sources are rarely cited in media so media as a whole is questionable. If Americans had more intellectual rigor, they would pull coroner's reports and do actual primary source validation.

What would be the motivation for all these governments all over the world to independently create a hoax? That is what you are implying.

A worldwide coordinated hoax in involving tens of thousands of hospitals, across all continents, a hundred governments, millions of care workers speaking dozens of different languages all coordinated a hoax that was going to cost most of the involved a great personal financial loss.

So you believe that is the more likely scenario?

rather than a virus acting like a virus?

Sure, it's the same as the media hoax denying the flat earth.

Yeah, because the media never promoted the idea of something like Saddam being responsible for 9/11 or having WMD that we needed to go in and destroy...yes, the media would never mislead us.

suresure wrote:

Sure, it's the same as the media hoax denying the flat earth.

If Earth is was really round then why is people on bottom half not fall off?

You’re getting desperate bro! Our medical ICU, which normally has 34 beds, has expanded to 60. We have about 50 patients in right now, 30 are on vents w COVID. I don’t even live in one of harder hit states!