Official 2019 Boston Marathon Live Discussion Thread

Ward and Fauble still in lead p[ack, mid 2:08 pace

Sarah Sellers update?

Fauble back to the front of the chase pack! Ritz dropping off, about 10m behind the pack now.

In case you are joining us late:

Start temps in Hopkinton for the women (same for the men):

56 F

93% humidity

Wind 6 mph out of the SE

Women

Mile 1: 5:47

Mile 2: 5:40 (11:27)

Mile 3: 5:34 (16:59)

5K: 17:34 Degefa now pushing the pace, Dibaba follows behind, so does Cherop. They get a gap of a few meters on the rest of the field.

Mile 4: 5:23 (22:22) Degefa has a couple meters on Cherop/Dibaba and about 30 meters on the rest of the pack. Hall getting dropped from main pack.

Mile 5: 5:16 (27:38) Degefa now leads by about 30 meters over Cherop/Dibaba, and another 30 over lead pack.

Mile 6: 5:13 (32:50)

10k: 33:58 (16:24) Degefa has a lead of 14 seconds on Cherop/Dibaba and another 15 on chase pack.

Mile 7: 5:18 (38:08) 20-second lead. Degefa grabs at her hip.

Mile 8: 5:15 (43:23)

Mile 9: 5:16 (48:39)

15K: 50:21 (16:23) She is 1:24 ahead

Mile 10: 5:21 (54:00)

Mile 11: 5:21 (59:20) Huge lead still for Degefa

Mile 12: 5:20 (1:04:39)

20K: 1:06:59 (16:28)

Mile 13: 5:25 (1:10:04)

HALF: 1:10:40 Degefa leads by 2:27. Chase pack is 10 women, including Hasay and Linden.

Mile 14: 5:17 (1:15:21)

Mile 15: 5:34 (slight uphill). Slowest split since mile 3. Des now taking the lead of the chase pack and starting to push.

25K: 1:23:43 (16:44) She’s now up by 2:43.

Mile 16: 5:13 (1:26:09) (downhill)

Mile 17: 5:19 (1:31:38)

Mile 18: 5:38 (1:36:18)

Mile 19: 5:29

30K: Degefa’s lead is up to 2:59 as Des has dropped off of the chase pack

Men

Mile 1: 4:49

Mile 2: 4:55 (9:54) Desisa moves to the front, gets a small gap but eggleston and one other go with him.

Mile 3: 4:54 (14:39)

5K: 15:10 (2:08 pace). Large pack -- 30+ guys within 5 seconds of the lead.

Mile 4: 4:51 (19:30)

Mile 5: 5:00 (24:30)

Mile 6: 4:49 (29:19)

10k: 30:21 (15:11) Elkanah Kibet leads a pack of roughly 27 men.

Mile 7: 4:44 (34:03) Kibet opens a gap but it closes back up. There’s a big gap back to the top Americans (apart from Kibet and Maiyo).

Mile 8: 4:54 (38:57)

Mile 9: 5:10 (44:08)Americans have closed the gap up and it’s one big pack again now just before 9 miles

15K: Ritz leads a pack of 25.

Mile 10: 5:02 (49:11) Ward takes over the lead at 52:30 point. Gets a gap of a few meters.Now 15m up at 54:53

Mile 11: 5:02 (54:13)

Mile 12: 4:50 (59:04) Desisa and Berhanu now closing gap to Ward

20k: Ward leads pack of about 20 Stringing out now just before halfway with kirui, Berhanu, and Rono pushing up front.

Mile 13: 4:51 (1:03:04)

HALF: 1:04:28

Mile 14: 4:46 (1:08:43)

Mile 15: 5:08 (1:13:34) Ward and Kibet the only Americans up there. Fauble, Ritz, and Biwott working together to bridge the gap.

Mile 16 4:55 (1:18:29) Ritz, Biwott almost back the leaders.

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Madridrunner wrote:

Fauble back to the front of the chase pack! Ritz dropping off, about 10m behind the pack now.

Fauble looks strong. He is USA's top runner, most likely

Yeah still 2:54 gap at 20 miles, they're not closing

Ritz hanging off the back

5:45 mile 20 for Degefa. Now she's even looking at her watch.

But 20 is UPHILL and 21 is EVEN MORE Uphill. So expect a slower 21st mile. Real question is what she runs on mile 22.

Clam Evans wrote:

What if the women's chase pack doesn't know that Degefa is ahead? They're running a tactical race 3 minutes back

I've never understood this issue of 'I didn't know there was someone ahead'.

Catherine Ndereba got Silver in Beijing Olympics because 'she didn't know that Domescu (or whatever her name was) was ahead.

Question, how did she (the winner) slip out of everyone's attention?

The american men are showing up today!!! This has been a fun race so far

SS rocks wrote:

Sarah Sellers update?

More than 5 minutes back of Hasay at 30k.

Split Time Diff min/mile miles/h

5K 00:17:36 17:36 05:40 10.60

10K 00:35:07 17:32 05:39 10.64

15K 00:53:05 17:59 05:47 10.38

20K 01:11:25 18:20 05:54 10.17

HALF 01:15:27 04:02 05:55 10.15

25K 01:30:01 14:34 06:01 9.99

30K 01:49:10 19:10 06:10 9.73

She may get caught. But they noted her lead was shrinking as she was moving up the hill and they were still on the flat. She does finally look like she is slowing down, but that was a false comparison for sure.

Degefa is now starting to pay the price -- lots of spitting, almost continual nose blowing, and stride seems to be shorter. She may still hang on for the win, but those last 5 miles will be tough.

Leading men at 25km

pos / name / bib / pred fin / pred time / diff / split

1 Kibet, Elkanah (USA) 25 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

2 Kirui, Geoffrey (KEN) 11 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

3 Rono, Philemon (KEN) 12 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

4 Cherono, Lawrence (KEN) 2 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

5 Inoue, Hiroto (JPN) 14 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

6 Ward, Jared (USA) 24 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

7 Mesfun Teklebrhan, Daniel (ERI) 30 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

8 Hayle, Lemi Berhanu (ETH) 4 02:08:56 12:08:56PM +00:00 01:16:23

9 Kipkemoi, Kenneth (KEN) 7 02:08:57 12:08:57PM +00:01 01:16:24

10 Desisa, Lelisa (ETH) 6 02:08:5712:08:57PM +00:01 01:16:24

cheers.

NativeSon wrote:

Clam Evans wrote:

What if the women's chase pack doesn't know that Degefa is ahead? They're running a tactical race 3 minutes back

I've never understood this issue of 'I didn't know there was someone ahead'.

Catherine Ndereba got Silver in Beijing Olympics because 'she didn't know that Domescu (or whatever her name was) was ahead.

Question, how did she (the winner) slip out of everyone's attention?

Education system in Africa isn't the best

Ritz running the tangents

kmaclam wrote:

Ritz hanging off the back

I've always thought that in a tailwind situation it makes some sense for an elite to hang a few meters behind the pack so he can hit the tangents exactly. Which you can't do in a big pack. Can make back 100 meters that way, I bet.

Fauble at the front of the race, Jared ward still in the lead pack too and Dathan just a few steps behind. All on ~2:08 pace. Definitely can't complain about the US men not going for it today. Fun to watch