2018 Tokyo Marathon - Live Stream, Results, Official Thread

Awesome. Be sure to cheer for the tall guy rolling through around 2:40-2:45.

Deena Kastor in London - of course! That was in 2006, though.

kanny wrote:

The guy said major marathons. Just responding to his statement. How many Americans have won major marathons outside of the US?

Big Mac 1 wrote:

So basically nothing outside of Asia since 2005? It’s 2018 just in case you forgot...

Moo Goo wrote:

Did he really carry a phone?

It looks like a phone holder, but it looks like it has an empty GU wrapper in it. He moved it after drinking at the last water stop. He carried his own GUs is my guess.

We can also compare the 2014 Chicago marathon, where Kipchoge (2:04:11) handily bested Kitwara (2:04:28) and Chumba (2:04:32).

These men covered 30-40k in 29:08, 29:13, 29:14 respectively; remember Rupp's 30-40k was (15:22+14:25 = 29:47).

40k-finish was 6:18 (Kipchoge), 6:29, 6:31 for the others. Rupp - 6:13.

Oh, and Kipchoge, Kitwara, Chumba came through halfway in 62:11, compared to Rupp's 66:11.

Of course Rupp probably waited much later than he needed to to move, and so maybe could have matched these guys' last 12.2k had he went earlier. Undoubtedly he can run faster than 2:09; but the notion that his close was earth shattering and unheard of ability really is not accurate. It's not that out of line from what 2:04/2:05 men do in their 2:04/2:05 performances, and one can only imagine what Kitwara and Chumba would have been capable of in the last 10k had they come through halfway *four minutes* slower than they did.

Unfortunately, everything is idle speculation until Rupp goes for it in rabbited race; but, in my opinion, the available evidence doesn't at all point to Rupp being a 2:04 guy capable of competing with the best (sans Kipchoge), as some seem to claim.

The Japanese cheat their courses my little friend.

These are a reprehensible people who are not even allowed to have a military.....

Frank ran Fukuoka there back in the day, and did a road workout over one of their '10k' courses a week before the marathon and ran 25:45....

Ahh, they cheat.

It turns out that Kenenisa Bekele (2:03:03) and Eliud Kipchoge (2:03:05) run the entire 26.2 miles at 29:09.7 10K pace, which is just under 70.0 seconds per 400m for the entire 26.2 miles.

That is going to be a really fun marathon pace for the first 18.6 miles, which is a warmup pace for Galen to launch his sub-28:30 final 10K to destroy Kenenisa Bekele and Eliud Kipchoge at the same time to become famous!

When will Galen be running his famous world record marathon race against Mr. Kipchoge and Mr. Bekele?

kanny wrote:

Deena Kastor in London - of course! That was in 2006, though.

kanny wrote:

The guy said major marathons. Just responding to his statement. How many Americans have won major marathons outside of the US?

Whoa what? Seriously? When we are generally asking these questions they usually relate to the current time frame. Results that are up to maybe a couple of years old, maybe 5, maybe even up to 10, but back to 2005, 2000, 1993??

Since you're gonna go there. Just for Boston on the men's side the winners that the US has: 1897, 1899, 1902-1906, 1908-1909, 1911-1913, 1916-1919, 1921-1925, 1927-1928, 1930-1931, 1933, 1935-1936, 1938-1939, 1941-1942, 1945, 1957, 1968, 1973, 1975-1976, 1978-1980, 1982-1983, 2014.

Similar amounts on the women's side. Now you also have tons in Chicago, tons in NYC, tons in the Olympics...forgetaboutit

It's Egun wrote:

The Japanese cheat their courses my little friend.

These are a reprehensible people who are not even allowed to have a military.....

Frank ran Fukuoka there back in the day, and did a road workout over one of their '10k' courses a week before the marathon and ran 25:45....

Ahh, they cheat.

7/10

good

in japan wrote:

They're even stronger at the half distance. Their college and corporate teams train mostly for the half distance, since that's usually the distance of each of the runner's legs (~20-22km) in their relays.

Check out this video. Tachikawa, west of Tokyo has the deepest half marathon in the world.

Winner in 61:36, then watch them flood in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuZmTo6llNE&t=300s

Then go to 32:43 and watch the first American cross the line. Still a respectable 1:19.

lol wtf ... a bunch of dwarves

Try.again.Ivy.League.joke.com wrote:

May 24, 2013:

Kaori Yoshida was stripped of her fourth-place finish in December’s Honolulu Marathon on Thursday, when the Japan Anti-Doping Agency revealed she had tested positive for a banned substance.

Yoshida, 32, received a one-year suspension from the agency after testing positive for the performance-enhancing drug erythropoietin (EPO) at the Honolulu race. The ban is retroactive from Jan. 18.

According to the agency, Yoshida had received medication from a doctor in November to treat anemia (just like 2:05 Kenyan marathoner Wilson Erupe only used EPO...to treat his anemia...which was caused by a recent episode of malaria)... and it was unknown to her the prescription contained... EPO.

Considering the circumstances of her first drug offense, what would normally be a two-year suspension... was reduced to a single year.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/feb/13/first-doping-case-of-2018-winter-olympics-sees-japanese-athlete-sent-home

ha ha ha

Sounds like the Japanese doping authorities concluded it was inadvertent, because she had a legitimate prescription, but I actually didn't know about that case. So good for you for finding it. Still, ONE, inadvertent T&F doping case on record for a country of 127 million people? That says a lot of good things about the national character.

And no, speedskating is not T&F ("track & field," for the uninitiated). Ha. Ha. Ha.

It's Egun wrote:

These are a reprehensible people who are not even allowed to have a military.....

Not allowed? Who's stopping them? Hate to break it to you pal, but MacArthur's been dead for 50 years.

Besides, they do have a military. They just don't call it that. And they don't plow half their national budget into it because they'd rather have things like the superb national healthcare system they have. But if it pleased them, they could revise their Constitution and become U.S.-style international belligerents tomorrow. And, as a whole, they're a helluva lot more honest and honorable than Americans. There's no such thing as a Japanese global-warming denier.

nice recap of Tokyo Marathon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6Gu6qDZEs

top results from Tokyo:

http://www.watchathletics.com/article/10399/results-tokyo-marathon-2018/

One can look at doping in relation to a culture of corruption. Japan is #17 out of 174 nations on "perceived corruption in business".

https://reliefweb.int/map/world/world-corruption-perceptions-index-2012

#174? Somalia *cough Mo cough*

Man - Shitara's cadence is ridiculously high - especially since he's not *that* short.

YMMV wrote:

One can look at doping in relation to a culture of corruption. Japan is #17 out of 174 nations on "perceived corruption in business".

https://reliefweb.int/map/world/world-corruption-perceptions-index-2012

#174? Somalia *cough Mo cough*

What, exactly, constitutes corruption?

Many would consider lobbying, PACs, and unlimited political campaign contributions to be obvious forms of institutionalized corruption, but the U.S. State Dept. somehow manages to produce a list of corrupt states every year, and for some reason it never includes the U.S.