Breaking Paul Chelimo has been DQd from Zurich and It Cost Him $20,000

Anybody else think Chelimo is doping?

I agree with the DQ but I think it is more Edris's fault then Chelimos. Edris was to the middle/outside of lane 2 going down the stretch. He then moved back to the inside to cut Chelimo off. Edris also started to slow down when he started to fall.

I'm not sure what Chelimo was supposed to do there. It may look like Chelimo was pushing Edris but to me it looked like unavoidable contact when Edris started going down.

Pappy wrote:

I agree with the DQ but I think it is more Edris's fault then Chelimos. Edris was to the middle/outside of lane 2 going down the stretch. He then moved back to the inside to cut Chelimo off. Edris also started to slow down when he started to fall.

I'm not sure what Chelimo was supposed to do there. It may look like Chelimo was pushing Edris but to me it looked like unavoidable contact when Edris started going down.

I guess we're gonna ignore Chelimo yanking on Farah's right arm/shoulder?

moose wrote:

Anybody else think Chelimo is doping?

No, not really. A Kenyan-born man running low 13's for 5K is not out of this world.

the real deal wrote:

moose wrote:

Anybody else think Chelimo is doping?

No, not really. A Kenyan-born man running low 13's for 5K is not out of this world.

2011 - 14:03

2012 - 13:23

2013 - 13:36

2014 -

2015 -

2016 - 13:03.90 (Olympic silver)

Nothing to see here, huh?

Never won anything in college. 2nd place at NCAA 5000m twice. 1500m PR in college was 3:40, and now he can suddenly close in 52 off a honest pace in the 5k? And came out of nowhere to grab silver in Rio?

Just another Kenyan (doper), I guess.

That is great, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Edris was intentionally initiating contact and running in on Chelimo (he did the same thing to Kejelcha before the final turn (only worse). I would not want to be in a race with someone like that. That being said, Chelimo may have had enough of an opening to run inside of Farah (ala Jenny Simpson / Emma Coburn). But hindsight is always 20/20.

Idiot wrote:

Same thing you cannot wear any military attire oversee. Not even oversee. People target military personnel more than civilians.

Not even close to being true.

pretty obvious

Is it just me or does Chelimo always run on the edge of a DQ? I am all for pushing boundaries, but maybe he needs to tone down the pushing and elbowing, because with his developing reputation, he's not going to get the benefit of the doubt in the future.

Look at the long vid at the bottom of the race recap:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/08/great-mo-farah-ends-track-career-epic-win-one-craziest-finishes-weve-ever-seen/

At 3:09 you can see there was plenty of room for Chelimo. But...things get crazy at the end of a race when everyone is gassed, so Edris drifted a bit. So what. Once again a stupid DQ that should've just been left alone.

That being said, Chelimo needs to stop getting mixed up in all this crap. This happens to him way too often.

different wrote:

Look at the long vid at the bottom of the race recap:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/08/great-mo-farah-ends-track-career-epic-win-one-craziest-finishes-weve-ever-seen/

At 3:09 you can see there was plenty of room for Chelimo. But...things get crazy at the end of a race when everyone is gassed, so Edris drifted a bit. So what. Once again a stupid DQ that should've just been left alone.

That being said, Chelimo needs to stop getting mixed up in all this crap. This happens to him way too often.

I guess we're gonna ignore Chelimo yanking on Farah's right arm?

Pappy wrote:

I agree with the DQ but I think it is more Edris's fault then Chelimos. Edris was to the middle/outside of lane 2 going down the stretch. He then moved back to the inside to cut Chelimo off. Edris also started to slow down when he started to fall.

I'm not sure what Chelimo was supposed to do there. It may look like Chelimo was pushing Edris but to me it looked like unavoidable contact when Edris started going down.

If you watch all views (several times, you can see what is happening.

Yes, Edris drifted all the way out to the far edge of lane 2. Chelimo was half a step behind, but not yet gaining. Edris started drifting back to the inside of lane 2.

Chelimo gained a half a stride on him. Edris brushed Chelimo's leg and started losing his balance. This, IMO was incidental contact and was mostly Edris's fault. Now Edris started drifting even more inside to lane 1 completely cutting off Chelimo's path (which, franking was already mostly cut off once Edris got to the inside of lane 2). Now Edris was falling/slowing down and Mo was completely tying up and slowing down too.

Chelimo was slowing down less than everyone else now. If he'd had the open lane, he would have won. He tried to poke his way through. Reaching out and pushing both Mo and Edris.

If anything he pushed Edris forward, causing him to fall across the line. But it was the incidental contact which did Edris in. Not the push.

Here's the thing. Edris cut off Kejelcha with about 200 to go. Completely slowing his progress and costing him about 1/2 second or so. If not for that Kejelcha might win. Edris drifts out giving Chelimo a lane which he could not completely take advantage of, but he really did not have room move back into the spot he did. Eventually causing the incidental contact with Chelimo.

Mo wins because he had the inside lane and because Edris impeded two other competitors.

However, it hard not to DQ Chelimo because he did reach out and push both Mo and Edris.

I really want to like Chelimo. He's obviously very talented and hard working and outgoing. But he needs to learn how to run in traffic and not get involved in this kind of crap and potential DQs. I also did not like the throat slashing gesture before the 5000m final in London, especially in front of a large international audience.

His coach needs to sit Chelimo down and talk to him about how best to represent the Army and the USA. He's essentially getting paid to advertise the Army and that means acting in a way that creates a favorable impression. Take a page from Sam Kendrick's book if you want a good example of how to act.

rojo wrote:

I think it's fairer to say it cost him $10,000 or even $6,000. He reall didn't have room to get 2nd. So third is $10k, 4th is 6k. I do think it's harsh to DQ him.

I've always said I wish officials could say, "There is no way you were worse than 4th. You made a foul but we won't DQ you but we'll put you 4th."

This is what they usually do in cycling. If you leave your line in a sprint you get relegated to the back of that particular group. Although if race jury thinks it's egregious enough (Sagan this year TdF) they can DQ you.

Chelimo is becoming the Abdoujaparov of the athletics track. He needs to rewatch the videos of his races and learn how to conduct himself because he is spoiling races for others.

I've been learning a little bit about F1 (Formula 1) recently and under those rules Edris might have been disqualified as well.

The rule is something like, if you're in front, you're only allowed to make one lateral move on a straightaway. So you're allowed to impede the guy behind you a little, but not a lot. In this case Edris moves out to lane two and back towards lane one, which might be counted as two lateral moves.

In running there's also a rule that you can move out as you approach the finish but not back in. Although in this case he obviously didn't move in very much.

Anyhow, I think the race made the right decision to disqualify Chelimo and not Edris. But I'm a huge Chelimo fan and hope he has better luck next time.

Rojo -- you always said not to panic in traffic because a lane will open up to you eventually -- I guess it backfired for Chelimo here. What do you think?

Yeah I watched it a few times and and thought thats what happened but it still not very clear. The impact was minor and it was not very blatant but it did happen. Chelimo really needs to get his tactics sorted. He always seems to get boxed in on the inside or blocked by runners at dash to the end. Needs to be more dominant. Should be moved hack to 4th.Not DQed.

[quote]ggfsgasdfs wrote:

In running there's also a rule that you can move out as you approach the finish but not back in.

Is this an actual written rule? Just curious.