Paula Radcliffe: "I can look people in the eyes and say that I ran my whole career clean"

Not Racist but.... wrote:

According to Let's Runs racist trolls she can't be guilty because she is White. But then again again according Let's Runs Black supremacist trolls she has to dope because she is White..... Wow what a conundrum.....

According to LRC misogynists no one really cares because she's a she.

trollism wrote:

brogan1 wrote:

Didn't Lance, and many other cheats, make the same claim? I'm not saying she is a cheater, but thinking this quote is worth anything is ridiculous.

Nah, Lance's famous quotes were always along the lines of 'I've never failed a drug test'.

I find it hard to believe he never directly denied PED usage. He did at least volunteer to be tested more often, correct? It was all a charade to make him look innocent.

Either way, if I was the type of person that would secretly take PEDs to acquire an unfair advantage, I would also be the type of person that could look somebody in the eyes and deny cheating. I also would not admit my PED usage to my closest friends and family. The less people know, the safer the secret.

Paula may be clean (I hope), but this quote is worthless. Being a nice person doesn't change anything either.

No one here has ever once posted a shred of evidence that Radcliffe was a drug cheat. Not a shred.

brogan1 wrote:

He did at least volunteer to be tested more often, correct?

I never heard him say that.

The RW article talks about her relationship with Muller Wohlfahrt. Here is an ESPN article (a bit older) about this doc and his controversial methods:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7324261/germany-dr-hans-wilhelm-muller-wohlfahrta-great-healer-quack-hyperactive-syringe

Not a Shred wrote:

No one here has ever once posted a shred of evidence that Radcliffe was a drug cheat. Not a shred.

2:15:25

ask 'theraceradio' on twitter about PR

Her protests with the sign at the track was what year..? Her running really took off what year...? How much protesting did she do after she began her crazy series of marathon performances..?

Augusto E. Perez wrote:

runDirtyrun wrote:

Armstrong was quite vocal about anti-doping. So was BALCO scandal loser Marion Jones.

No, they weren't. Saying, "I've been tested so many times" is not being vocal about anti-doping. Paula brings up the subject often and unprompted and visibly protested when a competitor who had been allowed off an EPO ban was allowed to race in Edmonton. Armstrong and Jones did nothing like that.

Her sign said "EPO Cheats Out" - why did she limit her protest to just EPO? Is blood doping ok with her?

German Guy wrote:

The RW article talks about her relationship with Muller Wohlfahrt. Here is an ESPN article (a bit older) about this doc and his controversial methods:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/7324261/germany-dr-hans-wilhelm-muller-wohlfahrta-great-healer-quack-hyperactive-syringe

Well if you use steroids, EPO etc homeopathically you are basically injecting pure water!

Of course Paul is guilty under Letsrun Rules:

Fast times = Doper

Convicted Doper - eg Gatlin 1st test,, Merritt = Clean,

You lot are too ignorant to even raise the real question as to where she could have been bending the rules.

shred presenter wrote:

Not a Shred wrote:

No one here has ever once posted a shred of evidence that Radcliffe was a drug cheat. Not a shred.

2:15:25

So what, she ran fast? Does prove anything.

DC Area Runner wrote:

L L wrote:

Can she say it like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

Or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ1UMaAosV8

Yes, that's a nice video. He stares down and points his finger.

Now, if somebody was accusing. I would just say, "no", I've never taken PED. I wouldn't really know what else to say... Kind of nothing else to say. I wouldn't be staring down. I would point my finger aggressively...

Again, if somebody was asking me the question. I wouldn't say "I can look people in the eyes and say I ran my whole carrier without PED"

Why would I even think of saying "my whole career"? Why would I even say that I "can look people in the eyes"?

These are kind of all extra words that I wouldn't think of saying...

I would say. No, I've never taken PED. I know people that did (and do). I was never really tempted since I guess that I never really had it in me to try...

I would never say "I can look people in the eyes and say that I ran my whole career without PED"

It kind of makes her sound guilty. Like that baseball player that was starring down and pointing his finger...

It's just not normal behaviour.

Lada wrote:

shred presenter wrote:

2:15:25

So what, she ran fast? Does prove anything.

No, it doesn't prove anything. Do we have any reason beyond the strength of her marathon performances to believe she was doping?

Here's a few more quotes that PR can use:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jan/18/lance-armstrong-doping-denials-quotes

libs = liars wrote:

Heck Man wrote:

Bill Clinton can look people in the eyes and say that he never had sex.

Sure. But he's a liberal. I'm not sure about Paula's political affiliation.

Um no. He's a moderate. Always was. Just ask the conservatives that agreed with him most times.

Don't forget drug cheat Dieter Baumman the first white guy to break 13 (with the aid of drugs) was constantly ranting against drugs. So much so he formed an German Anti-Doping Alliance but then got busted for steroids and then further humiliated himself by saying a rival spiked his toothpaste. Also Carl Lewis was always railing against drugs, but of course he was a drug user and and we later found out he failed a drug test at the '88 OT. Just like some of the most virulent anti-gays later turn out to be closet gays themselves. Paula has been one of the most vocal anti-drug crusaders in the sport, which to me means she is likely a drug cheat herself.

runDirtyrun wrote:

remy74 wrote:

... i believe her more because she seems very pro active in fighting drugs in sport, something armstrong, gatlin etc has never been, and paula's always backed it up with action...

Armstrong was quite vocal about anti-doping. So was BALCO scandal loser Marion Jones. Lie detectors! Most tested athlete! Lawsuits! Money for anti-doping!

Meanwhile, the federations were hiding positives. The way the IAAF is aggressively protecting Radcliffe reminds me of the cycling federation protecting Armstrong.

Of course, she could release her test data to show the world what an elite clean athlete's biological profile looks like.

mark b wrote:

It's the same only to the extent that I am expressing an opinion. There are ways to express an opinion; even if you believe Radcliffe to be the biggest cheat in the history of organised sport and genuinely hope she is caught and appropriately punished, civilised debate should be conducted in language that accepts certain boundaries, conventions etc.Hoping that someone should be jailed/tortured whatever surely goes well beyond those boundaries and conventions.

You're right there are ways to express an opinion, like calling the killing and maiming of innocent people 'collateral damage', it's still the killing and maiming of innocent people but couched in different words. And why would you get your knickers in a knot and take seriously some half wit idiot who comes on to an anonymous message board and says she should be "jailed/tortured whatever"?.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

Of course Paul is guilty under Letsrun Rules:

Fast times = Doper

Convicted Doper - eg Gatlin 1st test,, Merritt = Clean,

You lot are too ignorant to even raise the real question as to where she could have been bending the rules.

The extent of your argument is clear - you are from the UK, she is from the UK, therefore she is clean.

mark b wrote:

even if you believe Radcliffe to be the biggest cheat in the history of organised sport and genuinely hope she is caught and appropriately punished, civilised debate should be conducted in language that accepts certain boundaries, conventions etc. Hoping that someone should be jailed/tortured whatever surely goes well beyond those boundaries and conventions.

I'm pretty sure Rojo said all drug cheats should spend the rest of their lives in prison, which apparently doesn't apply to their friends.