Did I somewhere say I ran the 2:43?
Did I somewhere say I ran the 2:43?
Trials Wannabe wrote:
Do you really think that those that are left that haven't qualified yet are really concerned with putting on a good show at the Trials?
Probably not, but . . .
JimG wrote:
Trials Wannabe wrote:Do you really think that those that are left that haven't qualified yet are really concerned with putting on a good show at the Trials?
Probably not, but . . .
it's a concern, but not as big a concern of getting to the trials. the concern showed as quite a few guys went to grandma's. borderline or fringe guys need good conditions and a good course to have a prayer. i'd rather take my chances of not running well at the trials than running a few weeks earlier in another boiler of a marathon and get left on the sideline. that said, recovery after chicago will be a lot easier than recovery after one of those downhill freakshow type of marathons. jim g, keep us posted. if enough guys are interested, i'd go up there and then if it's hot or not happening, drop early and head to chicago.
i'm also sorry for hijacking the west thread, but i figure most from the south, east and west will end up in the midwest together in early october.
JimG
I'd consider this if you are serious. However, it'd be better to have a group. Please send me your contact info. so I can fish around for others who may be interested and contact you with a list etc...
eric lavigne
Joshua Tree wrote:
JimG
I'd consider this if you are serious. However, it'd be better to have a group. Please send me your contact info. so I can fish around for others who may be interested and contact you with a list etc...
eric lavigne
I'm going to noodle around over there this weekend after the Fairfield Half and see how tough it would be to add on the extra 12.195km.
There's a chance Jason Lehmkuhle, who's running Cow Harbor the day before, might come up and do the 30km as a long run; I'm trying to see if his Team USA Minn. partner Chris Lundstrom might want to come also. Those 2 could make a nice pacing tandem for the first 30km, then we could toss in some fresh local rabbits for the last 10km.
I'll post something soon when this becomes definite; in the meantime feel free to email me. Below is the link to the 30K info
Joshua Tree wrote:
JimG
I'd consider this if you are serious. However, it'd be better to have a group. Please send me your contact info. so I can fish around for others who may be interested and contact you with a list etc...
eric lavigne
I'm pretty sure Eric Blake would be interested.
I ran a 2:24:47 at Boston this past spring and am also interested in all options. Anyone considered that maybe 5-6 weels would be less optimal than the 4 weeks that Chicago/Twin Cities provide?
This is new territory for me, but it seems viable that you could recover in 4 weeks from a marathon, and not lose fitness. With six weeks, you've got to pack some QUALITY training in there, but before you know it, you're already tapering again, as opposed to just 4 weeks of recovering.
I have considered flying to Berlin to get an extra week of recovery, but then I ask myself, what exactly am I going to be able to achieve in one week? Gain fitness? I don't know... I'd be curious to say what everyone thinks about this.
i am definitely hoping for people to run with in september/october7th!
jerry ross
Jim,
It sounds like a good idea but Im pretty sure Im going to run Chicago. The 3 advantages i see in the Fairfeild race would be:
1) if having an off day than drop out and run Steamtown or something else 2 weeks later. It may be tough to enter Chicago 2 weeks before and secure tranportation etc.
2) no travel (at least for me)
3) 2 weeks more recovery for trials. This is not near as important as #1 because at this point it is more about getting to the trials. I wish that was not the case but it is.
But I think i would rather just give it one shot for all the marbles (all my eggs in one basket). Its either in the cards or not. I also have never run Chicago and would like to do it.
I could help out pacing for a portion of the race if needed.
Eric
All good points. In the end, the extra 2 wks. probably don't make a big difference. The main advantage for doing this in Fairfield is runners could plan to run it, then, based on the weather forecast early in the week, either continue their taper or else ramp their training back up for Chi., etc. 2 wks. later (heck, just come and run the 30K as a pace run for that). You don't have to pre-enter, it's only $15 instead of close to $100 like other marathons, finding a place to stay won't be a problem (there are lots of hotels in the area geared to work week business travelers that offer cheaper rates on weekends), etc.
I wouldn't expect anyone to travel much out of the Northeast for this, but I'm sure there are a bunch of guys in the area within driving or train distance who might benefit.
Anyone interested in putting on the Pines to Palms with me? We can see what we can run...
Its not the west but the best bet is Toronto or Chicago because you can guarantee having people to run with on a good course. It gives you 5 or 4 weeks to recover. This can be done but you will need a serious rest after the OT.
Pines? wrote:
Anyone interested in putting on the Pines to Palms with me? We can see what we can run...
As I said, if the date's right, I'll come out and time it gratis.
I've seen results of guys running back to badk fast marathons within 4-5 weeks of each other. Maybe it was Bill Rodgers or Jack Foster or some other old school guy, dunno.
Alan
I was part of the Grandmas carnage and am hoping to get into Chicago. They only take 100 Elite. Maybe they'll add more since Grandmas was a bust.(going for women's trials) I've heard a bunch of talk on St. George and Twin Cities. Which of the 3 is the best?
dragons wrote:
I was part of the Grandmas carnage and am hoping to get into Chicago. They only take 100 Elite. Maybe they'll add more since Grandmas was a bust.(going for women's trials) I've heard a bunch of talk on St. George and Twin Cities. Which of the 3 is the best?
Chicago, Twin Cities, and St. George are all full. Theres a chance you may not get into any of them. You may want to email all 3 race directors with your times and intention of qualifying. The other options are Toronto on September 30 if you like flat courses or Steamtown on October 8 if you like downhill courses.
JimG - thanks for your commitment to the sport and your generous offer in CT (not that I'm anywhere close to qualifying). One thing though - tossing in some "fresh local rabbits for the last 10k" may violate some USATF rule. I'm not sure, but I thought that rabbits had to start the race at the start of the race. Not being critical, I'd just hate to see your efforts be wasted. Thanks again.
Pine to Palms sounds great to me. I'd pay any price for a plane ticket to run a course like that. What do we have to do to make this race happen?
This is directed more at anyone looking to run a trials qualifier in the east or midwest, but I will be attempting to run a qualifier at Erie/Presque Isle Marathon on September 9th. I ran 2:24.44 at Chicago last year. The course is two loops around Presque Isle and is completely flat, and it's nearly two months before the trials so it will give you a decent amount of recovery if you qualify. The weather could be questionable, but you'll have that anywhere that time of year. If anyone is interested in this race, I left my email.
-Kevin Pool
ultra wrote:
JimG - thanks for your commitment to the sport and your generous offer in CT (not that I'm anywhere close to qualifying). One thing though - tossing in some "fresh local rabbits for the last 10k" may violate some USATF rule. I'm not sure, but I thought that rabbits had to start the race at the start of the race. Not being critical, I'd just hate to see your efforts be wasted. Thanks again.
Good catch, that's probably true. However, if some guys like Joe LeMay "just happened" to be out for a 12K tempo run on Sunday, and "just happened" to be at the 30K mark around that time - well, what a coincidence!