At his best, absolutely. He would have destroyed this field today. BUT, he is currently coming back from injury and I don't think he would've won with the current training he has had. Would have finished 2nd where Kerr did which would still be absolutely awesome.
Sorry but at his best, Jakob lost an Olympics to both Kerr and Hocker…
And I’m confused about the jogfest vibes complaints. Yeah 8:07-8 isn’t top gear but it converts to a 7:31-2 3,000m. That’s tactical but not really a burnup.
In the immortal words of Hobbs Kessler "I don't think anything over 7:30 is fast"
When you have people saying it's the greatest indoor field of all time going after the WR, and then they run that much slower - people are going to be disappointed. It's not like the finish was blazing either. People have run faster final 400s while running 7:17
In the immortal words of Hobbs Kessler "I don't think anything over 7:30 is fast"
When you have people saying it's the greatest indoor field of all time going after the WR, and then they run that much slower - people are going to be disappointed. It's not like the finish was blazing either. People have run faster final 400s while running 7:17
It wasn’t fast but it was good racing and Hocker ran 13.29 last 100 which is an important data point. All the guys were trying to time it right, reminded me of the Worlds 5,000 which I also enjoyed. So no Grant was a bummer but still a good race, if not completely up to the hype.
You could see how frustrated Hocker was to get run down by Beamish two years ago at world indoors. It was that senseless defeat that caused Hocker to improve his tactics going forward. Now he rarely gets it wrong when the race means something to him.
What improved tactics? His fitness is great, but he's still employing the high risk `sit on the rail and hope things open up and he can pass on the inside' strat that often loses him races.
Yes, if things open up then this is more efficient than going wide. But if they don't then it leads to him getting boxed in and losing or DQ'd, like what happened in essentially every 1500m race he ran last year.
We just saw championship style tactics in a year with no championships. Instead of this being a year to "try new things" and "have fun experimenting", we just got a tired, re-run of the pre-Jakob days which seemed like an era that would never end.
I wonder a contributing factor was not the way the race was not hyped as a sort of championship of who's who in track middle distances. Perhaps that is why just a win would be a rrelief. If it was mainly billed as a record atttempt with less.overemphasing the depth and greatness of the runners and bettting on who might win things might have turned out differrently. They were more focussed on each other than on the time. Then again, maybe it would not
We just saw championship style tactics in a year with no championships. Instead of this being a year to "try new things" and "have fun experimenting", we just got a tired, re-run of the pre-Jakob days which seemed like an era that would never end.
I wonder a contributing factor was not the way the race was not hyped as a sort of championship of who's who in track middle distances. Perhaps that is why just a win would be a rrelief. If it was mainly billed as a record atttempt with less.overemphasing the depth and greatness of the runners and bettting on who might win things might have turned out differrently. They were more focussed on each other than on the time. Then again, maybe it would not
Sorry for the typos. One would think a 7:27 and a closing 32 for the 218 wpuld not be too much to ask from guys allegedly jn sub 7:25 shape. If Hocker can gesture as though sleeping at the end not only was he the best on the day. He was also not leaving everything on the track. If anyone running 400m and longer doesnt collapse at the end they mistimed effort or could not mentally hacl maximal.output. If you look at some female 1500m runners like Laura Muir finishing, that level of exhaustion should he the default setting for pros. That's giving it all you got. Now this showboating nonsense. One never knows when the final opportunity presents itself and injury ends it all. Run yourself into the ground or GTFO.
Once again, Hocker gets himself trapped in lane 1 which he does in most of his races. And rather than accept his mistake, he makes contact with Wolfe and Blanks at 7:26 to try to force his way out. Wolfe was passing on the outside of lane 2 and was absolutely not crowding Hocker. Blanks nearly went down when he was tripped from behind.
I am so tired of seeing this crap from Hocker. He even acted like he was being persecuted in interviews when he got DQ'd at Worlds. I can't wait to see someone get tired of his nonsense and faceplant him.
Such a sense of entitlement... more DQs please!
This seems like the most important point to me. Hocker once again gets boxed in and when he tries to make a move, he kicks Blanks, who stumbles right at the moment when he might cover Kerr and Wolfe's move. Poor tactics and poor sportsmanship by Hocker.
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We just saw championship style tactics in a year with no championships. Instead of this being a year to "try new things" and "have fun experimenting", we just got a tired, re-run of the pre-Jakob days which seemed like an era that would never end.
I thought the same thing but they have a lot of time to run fast times.
It's looking like it's going to be an exciting summer- WR in the 1500 and maybe a couple sub 1:40's
Once again, Hocker gets himself trapped in lane 1 which he does in most of his races. And rather than accept his mistake, he makes contact with Wolfe and Blanks at 7:26 to try to force his way out. Wolfe was passing on the outside of lane 2 and was absolutely not crowding Hocker. Blanks nearly went down when he was tripped from behind.
I am so tired of seeing this crap from Hocker. He even acted like he was being persecuted in interviews when he got DQ'd at Worlds. I can't wait to see someone get tired of his nonsense and faceplant him.
Such a sense of entitlement... more DQs please!
What a bunch of whiny clowns. Obviously you've never ran in a competitive race before. Hocker is a boss and if he keeps getting away with it, it's only because his competitors can't stop him. I'll enjoy watching the legend continue to live rent free in your heads.😂
Ofc they’ve never raced competitively, they’d have to leave their mom’s basement in order to do that 🤣
WTF gives with these splits (posted in results on MileSplit)?
Using the times below, Hocker's final 800 looks like 1:56.37...but these splits are wonky and they stop short. During they race, the announcers never even mentioned their split for mile 1...but it looked close to 4:07 (as indicated below).
Curious what happened to Strand? Almost everyone was predicting him top 3 (with Fisher gone) myself included.
well, no one can be peaked ad infinitum. aka, all the time. I think that group (Nike training group in Flagstaff) peaked for Worlds, in order to grab a world medal which is more prestigious (probably more of a bonus financially as well). Millrose is a fun meet, but it is obvious from some of the results - not just the Nike training group, but other groups as well, like ON - they weren't peaking for the Millrose games. For example, if you look at Geordie Beamish. I.M.O. they all went back to a training block.
It's too bad the U.S. couldn't grab a medal for world XC mixed race, they were close. Strand ran a particularly impressive leg. Strand put the U.S. into gold medal position, and Porter put them back into the bronze medal, IIRC. I though Strand and Porter both ran phenomenal races at World XC, but the women were just okay that day, which wasn't good enough for a medal, unfortunately.
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oh wait, I just read the article on the front page. parker wolfe did take two weeks easier before Worlds in order to run a good race there, so I would assume ethan strand did the same.
Nope, Olin Hacker was not even in the race. If not running at all is what running really savvy is all about, then I ran a really savvy 2 mile at the '26 Millrose Games.
At his best, absolutely. He would have destroyed this field today. BUT, he is currently coming back from injury and I don't think he would've won with the current training he has had. Would have finished 2nd where Kerr did which would still be absolutely awesome.
Sorry but at his best, Jakob lost an Olympics to both Kerr and Hocker…
Which is irrelevant to the main point. Glad to know that the comment stung you enough to introduce a strawman though.
Isn't it kind of ironic that the big winner of the Millrose 2-mile is ultimately the guy that scratched? I think more people respect what Grant does for the sport now then they would have if he had raced and gotten 2nd place behind a WR.
100% I was thinking of starting a new thread about it, but I will just say it here: is Grant Fisher currently one of the most influential track distance runners?
He pulls out of a race, and literally everyone's tactics changed. Not even Blanks with the best 5K PR in the field took the initiative to take it on.
Everyone said in their post-race interview that they were ready for a fast race, but reverted to Plan B. If you were ready, why waste the opportunity to run fast?
