Loyola Marymount Cuts XC & Track

Fox is a few light signals from LMU. ESPN is a few miles from LMU. It was inevitable after DISNEY-ESPN and FOX SPORTS assumed operational control of the conferences.

Even crappy schools have acceptance rates well below 100%. Track does not bring additional students to the school because the school is turning thousands of students away. Loyola Marymount turns away about 7000 potential students.

When bad athletes play the victim role and bad journalist print clickbait to make themselves feel important… there are CONSEQUENCES

A false victim narrative by Rosie Cruz and terrible “journalism” by Elizabeth Carey/Dyestat have the blood of this cancelled program on their hands.

Cancel culture victims will eventually cancel us all.

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Sad day and could be the first of many cuts due to NCAA's new proposal of paying half of athletes at each D1 university $30,000 (aka NCAA's bid on staying relevant). This proposal should pass next August: NCAA proposal to Modernize

All D1 mid-majors and some power 5 schools are in panic mode.

Yes, XC/Track are cheap (LMU's XC/TF budget around $200,000 according to LMU Data) but the more significant savings is cutting down on participants and writing less $30,000 checks to athletes (LMU will save 2-3 mil / year). Other proposals that student-athletes have pushed to the NCAA (mental health support, medical insurance post grad, etc) will also cost.

These costs are somewhat significant but could probably be afforded if administration really cared about non-basketball/football athletes, but they don't and many lazy and/or greedy ADs will use this as a way to cut teams (similar during covid) and tell themselves they are being fiscally responsible to their board, they will tell this same board that the only way to get proper "exposure for the university" is to spend on new facilities/contracts/tournaments for basketball/football.

The NCAA president needs to realize that his new proposal is going to end many programs who are now incentivized to get to NCAA minimums and reduce participants. But again, NCAA presidents do not care about that, like your AD they only care about not getting sued! Title IX remains the only way to preserve half of our sport, and in this unique case, LMU women's XC survives!

Hope the women join the men in the portal and bail immediately.

the hollywood streaming TV conglomerates forced a new business model on DI after realignment.

athletic departments have to make a profit now.

the streamers operate for-profit day to day.

no more charity teams for DI colleges.

killed off two coaches.

Why do you hope for that? The school won't care.

That's what the school wants! If you choose to leave, LMU is off the hook for any athletic financial aid promises made. These athletes have tough decisions to make. Women distance runners are in a better position since cross country wasn't cut.

Uhhhh....and can't do what she loves to do. So I guess she'll just give up rowing?

Idiot.

Because I want they/hem on my squad.

Darn. As a club runner at UCSB, I beat a couple of LMU (then Loyola) runners on the UCSB XC lagoon course.

they're honoring scholarships for the remainder of the time there

That wasn't his complaint. Post reported for personal attack.

Except for people who love their job. If I was told I could have free tuition to a college but in order to take those Dollars, I was not allowed to compete at the peak of my athletic career, I would NOT take that deal. I would also not let my kid take that deal.

"Free college" is not why I ran cross country and we are not so hard up financially that my kid runs "for the money."

Also, I am loyal to my alma mater, my team and my teammates. I LOVED my cross country team (they are still my best friends 30 years later). I would have been crushed if we were told to transfer. That sucks.

in this scenario you've turned an 8 school fight for a full ride athlete into either a guilty full ride but no rowing or a partial/walkon role at another school that was a second or worse choice for someone who was a full ride level. it is laughable to suggest that's a great situation.

this is a nightmare scenario like my pro baseball prospect cousin breaking his throwing arm his senior year.

i also wonder if you played college sports because anyone who did would think about it as they lost their full ride, because the whole point is they want to play in college. when someone says i was looking at LMU and 7 other schools to row, you notice there are no schools on that list not rowing. the non-rowing schools aren't an option. LMU joined the non-rowing schools when it made its decision. other than trying to gig them about leaving that guilt-ridden full ride on the table, what's your point?

D1 school admits me and makes me a pretty good, perhaps second best, financial aid offer. their soccer coach comes and watches me play. we win the game in a blowout and i thought i looked good. couple other lower division coaches raved, including one from the school i attended. D1 guy is very meh and says, well, you're in for admissions, and you can try out in the fall. given broader interest plus the 2 positive coaches same game, i go other direction. anyone who played sports and wants a good school choice would appreciate the decision. they go with the D2 guy offering money or the D3 guy offering a starting spot. only a troll would be like, oh, you should have taken that good financial aid offer and seen what happened. pffft are you serious.

A full ride rower doesn't become a walkon at a different school. That is like a 4:40 female miler coming out of high school.

"nobody is harmed?" why do you think they are offering full rides? goodness of their heart? they are afraid of being sued by committed recruits who were led to believe there would be a 24-25 team in their sport.

to be fair, there is a broader market in, say, running or swimming, than rowing. incumbent athletes would have college track records and HS kids could shop their times around to the many other running and swimming schools.

i still think this is a raw deal this late in the year. a year or two lead -- or even in the fall -- and people can adjust, transfer, commit elsewhere. for example, if TF was going away, i might have wanted to transfer this winter and be on the new team now, as this will be a lame duck effort. i mean, they didn't even announce it winter break, they did it after classes started and people came back. and you would avoid the ire of the parent if you did it in the fall where commitments could be done with the decision in mind as opposed to derailed by it.

personally i think an ethical school would notify and moratorium the programs on the chopping block. to me it's more ethical to turn the tap back on to programs who get a reprieve, than to leave the recruiting tap on for programs that then cease to be.