Loyola Marymount Cuts XC & Track

wow, just as they were picking up some steam

Not surprised. LMU XC/TF has been in shambles ever since zarb cousin left

That's simply not true, they had their strongest team showing this year under Coach Curtis and Pickhaver, with Adam Trafecanty breaking the school record 8k, and with the best regionals showing in school history

butt kisser

Not shocked. Ever after Zarb cousin left, LMU XC/TF has been in disarray.

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You’re telling me that the University that charges it’s students 60k a year and pays for the chancellor’s million dollar home can’t afford the XC/TF team?

I wonder if they will keep a coach on staff full time for women’s xc… could be a cool gig if you don’t mind it just being a run club… I’m sure there are no competitive expectations and your only job is to by fun and encouraging. Can possibly be full time right? Does anyone know what single gender xc only schools do?

I know Northwestern views their women's XC team (the only one they have) as a real team and then track is like ea high level track club. But they will have certain allures - a Northwestern diploma - that Loyola Marymount won't have

Congrats to Rosie Cruz. She broke an entire program.

Zarb kept that shat hole together when it should have fell after RC killed Scott. Zarb found a great spot with a group of great kids at UCSB and is the man.

I thought this same thing. Rosie Cruz finally got what she asked for.

generally run slow. The athletes you get are ones who can't walk on anywhere else. Every now and then you get one fast athlete who is there for academic reasons or someone who becomes fast because they suddenly get a spark of motivation or find the college so boring they want to do nothing more than train.

Incorrect. Northwestern went to nationals a year ago and finished 3rd at regionals this year. Recruits are typically 4:50/10:30 types.

How terrible is this. My kid accepted a scholarship from them to row and now they inform us they are canceling rowing. She turned down offers from 7 schools and now we are left with no place to go because everyone has filled their spots. They didn’t even tell us this was a possibility. This didn’t happen over night. Thanks for ruining this for my family. We depended on this scholarship money. Now we are left with nothing

You either lie or didn't read the notification they sent you. This is a great situation for your daughter because she will receive a scholarship without any obligation to train or compete.

This is chilling. I dug into the document "Strengthening Competitive Excellence" and, in a nutshell, determined that LMU is cutting these sports because they anticipate larger costs for the remaining sports going forward. Due to NCAA changes and legal actions, it looks like D1 member institutions could be on the hook for:

Alston payments of up to $5980/year for student-athletes regardless of athletic aid.

NCAA proposals requiring minimum investments/educational trust funds in all student-athletes.

Lots of language regarding "quality of student-athlete experience". My interpretation is that if other schools in your conference have fully funded programs, then your programs must also be fully funded. The "savings" from cutting sports are just being put into surviving sports to keep pace with conference rivals.

The NCAA wants D1 member institutions to provide health care insurance to athletes for two years after graduation/leaving school and provide funds for up to a decade for degree completion for athletes that leave school and then wish to return at a later date.

Preparation for a potential court ruling that defines student-athletes as employees of the university. Student athletes may then be entitled to salary, benefits, retirement contributions, and union membership.

Loyola Marymount may be on the cutting edge here. The NCAA Transformation Committee, NCAA modernization proposals, court cases, etc. are going to make college sports far more expensive than a lot of institutions can afford. I wouldn't be surprised to see others make very similar moves. Track and XC are in the crosshairs because of their large rosters. I also wouldn't be surprised if walk-ons become a thing of the past if certain legal decisions are made. Schools will keep revenue producing and prestige sports plus just enough women's offerings to stay Title IX compliant.

Exactly, This is unfortunately just the beginning. As the big ball sports' athletes get their $$$ the Olympic sports will be squeezed out. Classic rich get richer scenario (given that these sports already have inflated budgets)

Our university views xc/track as a money maker/ revenue generator. We have 60 athletes. 2 coaches. 3 scholarships per gender. School is 70k/year. Do the math.

Cuts like this are going to be more and more frequent moving forward.

I understand the old NCAA system was taking advantage of a few and spreading the wealth to many but so many “athlete welfare” measures have been passed that the NCAA is going to die out soon.

First it was cost of attendance, transfer portal, NIL, various law suits, COVID, college football playoff breaking away.

The whole revenue vs non revenue is the dumbest argument as well. Outside of 10-15 teams nationally, no one finishes with profit. It’s doesnt take an accounting degree to look at these athletic departments spending 50 million and 49 million of it is given to them by the university

Give it some time and it’s going to be a DIII model across the board. Well funded clubs.