SEC sprint update Laird, Boling, and Steiner

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Indoors is one thing, outdoors another. I don’t really put any outdoor weight on indoor 200’s—for instance, I was great at indoor 200’s😂.

But like everyone is saying, the conditions haven’t been equal. Maybe Boling will show something special and run away from a field at some point—I just don’t see what that something special will be.

And as for him coming close to Kerley—it’s KERLEY in a 200. Since when did he become the elite standard? He should have dispensed handily with Kerley.

Of course everyone can have an off-day. Can’t wait for more races.

coming close to kerley? lolz moran they werent even in the same race. boling was in the college race with .2m/s wind and kerley was in the olypic development race with .9m/s wind...laird was at the fast texas relays track with .8m/s wind. kerley has 43 mid PR so you know his 200 potential has to be better than his 20.24 from 4rys ago...i would say if it wasnt rain and soggy he would have PRd with at least a 20 flat...anyone have vids of the races that would help a ton on digesting the times.

or was anyone there that can tell us about the two races? did boling tie up on the straight like he did at SEC? or did he take off too slow? how did kerley look?

Sprintgeezer wrote:

"Indoors is one thing, outdoors another. I don’t really put any outdoor weight on indoor 200’s—for instance, I was great at indoor 200’s😂."

Yep. Outdoor 200s are much faster given the more gentle curve. Boling ran 20.19 indoors one month ago. The WR outdoors is 19.19. Indoors is 19.92. Are you really going to claim Boling's 20.20 indoors is not worth sub 20.00 outdoors?

"And as for him coming close to Kerley—it’s KERLEY in a 200. Since when did he become the elite standard? He should have dispensed handily with Kerley."

Actually he did not race Kerley. Kerley has run 10.03 for the 100m and 43.64 for 400m. His 100m PR is faster than Michael Johnson's. Kerley is clearly a world class 200m guy.

"Of course everyone can have an off-day. Can’t wait for more races.

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Today's 100m ought to be interesting. Bolinger had a bad 200m at SECs and then came back to run a great lead-off leg in the 4 x 400m relay at the same meet and to beat Laird (by a whisker) at the NCAA indoors. Let's see how he goes today. He will be facing the guy who beat him in the 200m, Lance Lang (who was nowhere near Boling and Laird indoors in the 200m). I do think Bolinger had an off day yesterday.

I keep calling Matt Boling Matt Bolinger.

Mental block

The Unkle wrote:

I keep calling Matt Boling Matt Bolinger.

Mental block

lolz i keep doing "boiling"...yes when is the 100m?

and for the love of LR why isnt there anyone with info on the 200's? no youchoob vids or spectators who saw it?

bannnned i got wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

I keep calling Matt Boling Matt Bolinger.

Mental block

lolz i keep doing "boiling"...yes when is the 100m?

and for the love of LR why isnt there anyone with info on the 200's? no youchoob vids or spectators who saw it?

Yeah would be really nice to have some vids👍.

Anyone? Bueller?

bannnned i got wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

I keep calling Matt Boling Matt Bolinger.

Mental block

lolz i keep doing "boiling"...yes when is the 100m?

and for the love of LR why isnt there anyone with info on the 200's? no youchoob vids or spectators who saw it?

I think that's great with the name.

I didnt realize he was running th 100 too today. I'm not expecting much out if him right now; he's essentially I dictating 10.25/10.20 ability right now.

He was running consistent sub 10.2 "basics" TWO years ago off HS non-100m specific training, so....assumptions can run wild off that. Either he's officially stagnating/regressing already (which would seem a stretch to assume to me) or he's "rust busting" a lot right now (which is a fanboy-ish take), or he's had an injury setback at some point between indoors and now and he's just getting going again (which is wild speculation).

Regardless, him running a mid-to-high 10.1x in basic today would essentially be PROGRESS for him. Give him a sunnier/"nicer" day today (I dont know the weather, tho) and a regular-ish wind and a 10.18 in basic becomes a 10.13/10.12 for him. That would probably lose him his heat, frankly, but that would be intriguingly be a new legal PR for him (but not in "basic").

I dunno. That wouldn't inspire me much, but it WOULD indicate he's starting to trend back up a little bit. If he barely breaks 10.3 and the weather is fairly nice....he may well be in some trouble. It's still pretty early, admittedly, so he might still have plenty of ceiling in his season, I suppose, regardless of unflashy results. Unless there's some injury story going on that isn't being managed well and/or isn't responding well.

paris2024hawk wrote:

With Bednarek, Lyles, and Laird there wasn't any spots anyway except the alternate spots.

Bednarek is not a prospect for medaling in Tokyo. I would prefer to see Slade, Knighton, Laird or Boling get those spots as they have more potential. Bednarek had his chance at Worlds and did nothing. I guess who ever brings his A game at Nationals...

Actually, I forgot he (Boling) has a 10.11 official and wind legal to his name, so a 10.12 WOULDN'T be a PR.

NY guy, I'm always bewildered by your anti-Bednarek bias. Trust me, he's gonna beat your high schoolers.

I’m no NY guy, but for me, IIRC Bednarek’s 19.8 was really sloppy. I wonder about the accuracy of the timing.

His turn was nice but he just flopped all over in the straight—overstriding the whole time, too much backside action which led to external rotation of the upper leg, giving him a washing-machine inefficiency. IDK if his arm action led or followed, but it was also way to the backside. Honestly, he looked like junk.

Maybe I am remembering wrong.

In any case, Laird looked way better to my eye.

Yeah, here it is. Looks like a typical sloppy-but-fast HS kid looks, who never ends up on the very top after HS:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jefAShYy-Jk

Walter Dix needs to help him out with his 200m form😁

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Walter Dix needs to help him out with his 200m form😁

That vid is from his nationals win in 2019. I cant find mich other good vid on him as judging him SOLELY on that run seems disingenuous, especially since it's essentially two years old now and he's even run faster than that since.

Idiot Savant wrote:

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Walter Dix needs to help him out with his 200m form😁

That vid is from his nationals win in 2019. I cant find mich other good vid on him as judging him SOLELY on that run seems disingenuous, especially since it's essentially two years old now and he's even run faster than that since.

Hell, here is him running "slower" that same year and he looks -frankly- quite a bit "cleaner". I think at least SOME of the form aesthetic we saw in the vid that gets the "hype" on his form could be the results of circumstances: that was his nattys final after a bunch of other running AND his body had churned out a 19.49 prior to. YES, it was altitude and wind aided....but the BODY doesn't neccesarily care about that.

I think some of that "look", form wise, was just him coping and surviving, frankly. Might also go a long way into explaining why he broke down with the hammy situation later; might not have been as much (or solely) form "flaws" as just the old NCAA grind blew him up.

Which would, to me, argue that he has a lot more resiliency than the NYWhatevers give him credit for. And he's certain ly got a lot more to offer RIGHT now than the HS kids. He's a front runner for the spots and -ultimately- medals. It's just fact.

He was injured there genius.

NYDC guy you have a weird hate for KennyB

Cant wait to see him shut you up at the trials

Sprintgeezer wrote:

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

He and Jaylen Slade are the two to watch.

^this.

Especially Slade, IMO.

BUT look at Jereem Richards, who was once considered the wunderkind, IIRC. Has so far maxxed-out at 19.97. Never can tell.

Ah, but look at Bolt and Lyles. As you see, it can go either way. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for these two teens.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Indoors is one thing, outdoors another. I don’t really put any outdoor weight on indoor 200’s—for instance, I was great at indoor 200’s😂.

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Couldn't agree with you more. I had one debate with a guy on another thread who was converting Boling's indoor times to out door and had Boling running sub 19.9. No amount of my telling him that I would not give any weight to those indoor races made any difference.

Would I love to see Boling run sub 19.9? Absolutely. He and all US 200M specialists, so that we can sweep in Tokyo.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

bannnned i got wrote:

lolz i keep doing "boiling"...yes when is the 100m?

and for the love of LR why isnt there anyone with info on the 200's? no youchoob vids or spectators who saw it?

Yeah would be really nice to have some vids👍.

Anyone? Bueller?

We should start our own site dedicated to sprinting. The preponderance of articles and posts on long distance races, on this site is annoying.

Heres Bolings 100m opener last week:

https://youtu.be/mjzBYjjnJj4

All kindsa weird. No part of his race looks all that great, frankly. And that's weird cause I've pinned him as a great finisher and he looked nothing like that here. Buuuut, a lot of that REALLY could be from his training through and working kinks out. Which would bode well for later on in the season. But only time will show the accuracy of that assumption.

Definitely not seeing anything other than 10.2/10.1 from him today, with the sole exception of a big tailwind benefit.

Idiot Savant wrote:

NY guy, I'm always bewildered by your anti-Bednarek bias. Trust me, he's gonna beat your high schoolers.

I call em as I see em. If he beats my schoolers, this year, so be it. They are just 17 and he should. But this is his best chance to do so.