WADA needs to throw in the towel. It is apparent they have lost. Track is no different from WWE.
Official 2022 Monaco DL Discussion thread: Will Grant Fisher break the 3000 AR, Will Faith Kipyegon break the 1500 WR?
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Spikezah wrote:
Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Hahahahah - "4-7 seconds over 3000m?!" I legitimately laughed out loud at that. And what evidence do you base that nugget of elite scientific insight off?
The shoes are worth 1 second every 400-600 meters. It’s a fact. Only idiots think otherwise.
It's not a fact. If this is true, the mens 1500 is ridiculously historically bad right now.
inefficient runners may get that 1 second. the guys at the very top aren't getting anything close to that.
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At the rate Fraser-Pryce is improving she will finally take Flojo's record at 40.
The Chinese runners from the '90's want to know what is Kenyan for "caterpillar juice".
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a low 2:13 garners an American the NR 😏 and when are the American records ever gonna fall in the 600m, and 2000m too lols
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Armstronglivs wrote:
At the rate Fraser-Pryce is improving she will finally take Flojo's record at 40.
The Chinese runners from the '90's want to know what is Kenyan for "caterpillar juice".
Monaco is known to be a fast track.
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THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
High hopes wrote:
It was stated in commentary that he was injured for World's. Let's not go throwing accusations about a guy just because you haven't heard of him. Wait and see what else he does
He is not in the AIU RTP but this win will land him there assuredly.
His profile is interesting, Pre-super spikes he ran 13:27 at age 18 and 7:41 at age 21 and was 9th at World Cross in 2019. This year a huge breakthrough season. He had a hamstring injury ahead of Worlds but 3 DL starts indicates he’s not dodging testing. Based on Spain for a number of years evidently, and not a ton of great racing opportunities in some past years.
Right, and he'll certainly be tested after that victory. 9th at World XC is an impressive result, especially at Aarhus, I'm fairly sure Jakob wouldn't be top-10 at World XC if he ran it today. I think Ndikumwenyano deserves the benefit of the doubt until there's any reason to think otherwise, like all athletes
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Armstronglivs wrote:
At the rate Fraser-Pryce is improving she will finally take Flojo's record at 40.
The Chinese runners from the '90's want to know what is Kenyan for "caterpillar juice".
Correct.
At 50 she runs sub 10, and at 100 she is faster than speed of light. Than further improvement becomes difficult. Without you, Army, the forum just wouldn't be as good as it is.
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Fishiest track in the sport.
Gives all the dorks and weenies a big b*ner.
LRC mods have a problem with the word b*ner.
Dorks and weenies.
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No he is mostly under suspicion because his coach backs convicted doper houlihan, brings her to altitude and gets her jobs at the university. His coach also pretended not to have heard of nandrolone.
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Nice to see Jonathan Gault back from vacation in the write-ups!
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slowwer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
At the rate Fraser-Pryce is improving she will finally take Flojo's record at 40.
The Chinese runners from the '90's want to know what is Kenyan for "caterpillar juice".
Correct.
At 50 she runs sub 10, and at 100 she is faster than speed of light. Than further improvement becomes difficult. Without you, Army, the forum just wouldn't be as good as it is.
So, you, too, find the continuing improvement with age in a sprinter to be less than plausible. The Gatlin effect.
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workingclasshero wrote:
No he is mostly under suspicion because his coach backs convicted doper houlihan...and gets her jobs at the university.
Jobs, plural? Really? When did this happen? Source?
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Armstronglivs wrote:
slowwer wrote:
Correct.
At 50 she runs sub 10, and at 100 she is faster than speed of light. Than further improvement becomes difficult. Without you, Army, the forum just wouldn't be as good as it is.
So, you, too, find the continuing improvement with age in a sprinter to be less than plausible. The Gatlin effect.
What ever you wanted to tell me with this nonsensical sentence - I completely agree.
And the further improvements until age 40 are made possible by what - can you please go little bit into detail here?
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slowwer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
So, you, too, find the continuing improvement with age in a sprinter to be less than plausible. The Gatlin effect.
What ever you wanted to tell me with this nonsensical sentence - I completely agree.
And the further improvements until age 40 are made possible by what - can you please go little bit into detail here?
Chemical enhancement. You've never heard of that? Commonly called doping.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
slowwer wrote:
What ever you wanted to tell me with this nonsensical sentence - I completely agree.
And the further improvements until age 40 are made possible by what - can you please go little bit into detail here?
Chemical enhancement. You've never heard of that? Commonly called doping.
Good to hear what "going into detail" means for you.
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slowwer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Chemical enhancement. You've never heard of that? Commonly called doping.
Good to hear what "going into detail" means for you.
Are you planning to do it yourself? Otherwise, what "details" do you need to know before it becomes doping? Testosterone, human growth hormone, IGF-1, speed peptides - there are hundreds of substances available and most of them can't be tested for.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
slowwer wrote:
Good to hear what "going into detail" means for you.
Are you planning to do it yourself? Otherwise, what "details" do you need to know before it becomes doping? Testosterone, human growth hormone, IGF-1, speed peptides - there are hundreds of substances available and most of them can't be tested for.
So she was clean until now and starts now doping and improves further until age 40? Or she always was doping and has some special stuff which gives her further improvement while getting older? What has her beeing faster at age 35 than at age 30 to do with doping? Plese enlighten us.
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slowwer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Are you planning to do it yourself? Otherwise, what "details" do you need to know before it becomes doping? Testosterone, human growth hormone, IGF-1, speed peptides - there are hundreds of substances available and most of them can't be tested for.
So she was clean until now and starts now doping and improves further until age 40? Or she always was doping and has some special stuff which gives her further improvement while getting older? What has her beeing faster at age 35 than at age 30 to do with doping? Plese enlighten us.
You really are as your user name suggests - slow. I didn't say she was clean until now. But to be performing at a higher level at 35 than previously in her career - and a level that matches the best authenticated level of a doped world record-holder - easily suggests doping. It also suggests that as she is improving with age she may continue to do so - which doping also can enable. Natural physical decline begins in the late twenties - but you know nothing about that.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
slowwer wrote:
So she was clean until now and starts now doping and improves further until age 40? Or she always was doping and has some special stuff which gives her further improvement while getting older? What has her beeing faster at age 35 than at age 30 to do with doping? Plese enlighten us.
You really are as your user name suggests - slow. I didn't say she was clean until now. But to be performing at a higher level at 35 than previously in her career - and a level that matches the best authenticated level of a doped world record-holder - easily suggests doping. It also suggests that as she is improving with age she may continue to do so - which doping also can enable. Natural physical decline begins in the late twenties - but you know nothing about that.
You havn't answered the question. You probably havn't understood the question at all - as so often.
What enables her to run faster at 34 and 35 than ever before?
When you just say doping, than you clearly state she didn't dope before.
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slowwer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You really are as your user name suggests - slow. I didn't say she was clean until now. But to be performing at a higher level at 35 than previously in her career - and a level that matches the best authenticated level of a doped world record-holder - easily suggests doping. It also suggests that as she is improving with age she may continue to do so - which doping also can enable. Natural physical decline begins in the late twenties - but you know nothing about that.
You havn't answered the question. You probably havn't understood the question at all - as so often.
What enables her to run faster at 34 and 35 than ever before?
When you just say doping, than you clearly state she didn't dope before.
I am not saying that, you doofus. She could have doped previously in her career - I expect she did - but whatever she has been taking has enabled her to continue to improve as she ages. But doping isn't like taking a course of anti-inflammatories; there is no one prescription - it will change as drugs evolve so as to both maximize performance and avoid detection. But you know nothing about any of that.
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