Another run across America underway - is it legit? Boots currently on the ground

Yep, what I mean by down to 7 was that 3 had given up on any competitive aspirations, almost at once. Hats off to Mirna for being there of course. And maybe they'll fight back, but 16 hour marathons are a bit disappointing really. None of the 10 will card a dnf, as in this event there's no such thing, you're just awarded your distance.

Anyway, the rest are fighting the good fight, I'll give them that.

According to Mirna's coach, the plan is for her to do two 25k blocks a day with a decent rest in between.

To help her accomplish this, she's got a crew of 7, including 2 crew specialising in 'emotional support'. What an extravagant waste of resources.

Does she have an emotional support animal?

That'd be admiral for Mirna, but the next 7 have all had poor to average days. You need to get a bit of distance covered on day 1 really... ie way above average total goal.

Maybe the best story will be the cracking battle developing between Devon and Leah, who have now surely been left behind by Camille. Held on for a while though.

No sign of Paul 36 minutes into day 7. Tic toc. Both the crew got back to me with my WG observations. They're too tired for them, and don't care, but then appreciated my follow up remarks that cheating influencers in endurance sport is a huge story worldwide and they're giving us priceless data as to how this should really look. "Cool beans", Rob replied.

It's a wild presumption that anybody has been left behind on Day 1. At the EMU 6 Day in Hungary, 2021, Camille left everyone behind at the start and then folded after 100k. I wouldn't be in the slightest bit surprised to see Leah or Devon win. But I wouldn't be surprised to see then all crash and burn either! It's a brutal event.

New thread has been created for the Lululemon Further 6 Day race and Cammille Herron's world record attempt.

Well, I now realise that the level of debate in that thread is not particularly high. It doesn't seem to invlove many that know anything about ultramarathons.

I think it's the word extravagant that's prescient. Real runners who are serious are generally not extravagant at all. When you see all of PJ's gear and those ludicrous vids of him preparing for a run, he is painting running as a really complicated thing where you need loads of gear. This is the total opposite of what running is, and a bitter insult to the sport coming from enemy lines.

But if you want it there's a piece of flash gear for every part of the body. And the influencers are there to sell, sell, sell, and of course lie, lie, lie about how good they are in order to inspire people to try and ape them.

Meanwhile, the day started an hour ago, but still no sign. This may start to unravel fast now, because 50 days will start to disappear in the next 48 hours, [of course it has to us lot already], they're having crew problems, he can't hope to beat Goodge's 55, even 60 will be a fine result. But that would be 140 extra days of their lives they all need to conjure up between them, not be earning elsewhere, extra rents on equipment etc etc.

Life lessons being learnt for sure - they're even having trouble disposing their sewage.

Great, no more Lulu chat on here, as entertaining as it is.

Meanwhile I have been sent the cadence for those missing miles yesterday. There isn't one. I think it's simple: He had a stomach emergency, they're driving at 5mph anyway, hop on for 5-10mins, hop off. The tracker and garmin aren't going to fail together.

They won't have banked on a neurotic freak in South London keeping tabs.

2:15 into the day now. Still no sign. They have to have a hard stop somewhere along the line, with the US Govt needing him back. If 60 days isn't comfortable for them to be out for, they should can it.

Between where and where are the missing miles? Is this not uploaded to Strava?

I see his cadence is visible on strava but I can't see a missing cadence period

Hi all.

I think we could well be seeing the final embers of a rather seamy saga. I have more to share, but it's all been superb insight into how runfluencers are trying to rob the sport blind, but have no clue how to actually do it.

This brilliant insight from an experienced Transconner:

"What experienced Transconners know is that your biggest asset is routine. Routine takes all the thinking out of the process. You get up at the same time. You start up the same way. You take breaks at the same time. You eat the same stuff. You wind down at the same time. Lights out at the same time. You might adjust things an hour or two to account for traffic, heat or cold, etc but you don't constantly flip things around. Your body is looking for homeostasis and routine will provide this. This is why he's struggling more than he should.

17 days is what it takes roughly to reach this equilibrium. By not developing a routine you are delaying this adaptation. ANY Transconner will say this and you learn it by talking to those that have done these things. A critical missing piece by PJ and WG.

The best thing he could do for himself is send that van 5 miles down the road and get on with running. Even WG was smart enough to do that when he wasn't riding in it. If it's always there you will eat too much, drink too much and take too many breaks.

I think he is eating way too much of all the wrong things. If he's still drinking sh*t like tailwind he should stop and I've already mentioned the problem with always changing up the approach. He doesn't have what it takes to keep going. Simply lacks the experience and grit."

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And regarding yesterday's missing mile or two:

"I do think the rolling caravan at 4 mph and PJ running on the wrong side of the road constantly makes taking a ride too easy. "It's only a couple of miles" I can imagine them saying. Remember. He works for the US govt. his time away from his duties is not endless. He will have a hard stop date at some point.

So if he isn't making the miles his option will be "quit or cheat". Neither is good for runfluencer sustainability.

WG caravan also loaded with runners to pick up his slack for 5k here or there. All dressed in black. Impossible to distinguish. Impossible to find on the road without notifying them in advance. Comparing the two outfits allows one to see how well thought out the WG scheme was and how ill conceived the current "sh*t show" (literally) is playing out."

Not really important to the matter but I'll explain. An API is, like, a way for two (or more!) computers to communicate with each other. You ever see a Twitter bot that tweets something at the same time every day? That's done using Twitter's API. Someone writes a bit of code to run on their computer, it sends a message to Twitter and says, "Hey, I have this information and these credentials, you take it and do what you're supposed to do with it."

The API for all the tracking data is being called every single second. Every second your browser is saying, "Hello Further tracking service, give me an update." and this service they're using gives them all these details back. Every. Single. Second. That's just inefficient.

Thanks.

The data between 11.3 and 26.2kms is certainly peculiar for that speed. Both HR and cadence. Could it be that the watch is put in a pocket or bag for this section?

This is just bad. Agreed, crazy.

bonkers indeed. Gotcha, thanks.

The key is the tracker and watch both spouting garbage together. That is no coincidence, that's a ride, baby!

But they have bigger fish to fry.

Right!! The best multiday runner in the world, by 5%, is on the dancefloor [3 hours later than advertised]. First 20 minutes... 0.83 miles. Could be a long, slow dance. With lots of smooching.

Why wouldn't that just be explained by him dealing with the rolling hills on that section? His cadence speeds up on the downhill grades and decreases on the uphill.

Go look at the actual chart. His cadence goes from 180 all the way down to 100/not measured. This isn't explainable by running uphill. He would have to be slowly bounding or something to cover the same distance as running now on a 100 cadence (now with 45% less steps)

In addition, if he is going uphill, at a faster pace than on the downhill, why would the heart rate magically go lower? Especially if his running form is an inefficient (I'd say impossible) 100 cadence?