The full USADA report on Alberto Salazar has been leaked - Here it is

jewbacca wrote:

its been said before wrote:

Giving someone prescription strength supplements, when you are not a Dr, is illegal

Are you sure about that? Prescription strength ibuprofen is 800 mg, yet I can hand my wife 4 200 mg tablets and no crime has been committed.

Not only that... I just checked, and there are a lot of choices for 50,000 IU Vitamin D capsules/tablets/softgels on Amazon. The USADA called it prescription strength, but you definitely don't need a prescription to get it.

Vitamin D is the only supplement that I take. I live in AK, where sunlight is scare in the winter.

Lapped Miler wrote:

rojo wrote:

I am all for medical privacy. WE're not talking about releasing them to the public. We're talking about releasing to USADA.

A) You could redact anything sensitive and

B) We're talking about sharing reports with your visits to Dr. Brown.

They wouldn't have to release they terminated a pregnancy two years ago.

If this were a telegram, the first line would read:

I'm all for medical privacy. STOP.

Stop, as in no compromise. The first five words define what I believe in, not that it defines the ultimate outcome every time in court.

Redact something, and when it gets out on LetsRun that something has been redacted, well...WELL...let the Doubting Thomases go at sub-4 pace on the keyboard to protest.

Trust USADA? And who's responsible for the leak of this USADA report, by the way? Mr. Obvious touched on this back on Page 4.

The same reasons for not talking to police applies to not releasing your medical records. They are only going to use it to try to bust you, even if you are totally, 100% innocent. They are going to ignore anything in it that makes you look innocent.

Watch this:

MurphMurph wrote:

Salazar dumped 5,000 documents on USADA 3 days before his interview.

They then write he is not cooperating? 5,000 f'n documents isn't cooperating?

Cooperation can't be measured in pages. I think you know that.

Harambe wrote:

Filtered Summary wrote:

Yup, that is what he wants. An ostrich summary.

Has anyone changed their opinion of NOP after reading this?

We already know they were firmly in the grey area.

That either bothered you or it didn't. I don't see what is new....

With Rupp's testosterone lab chart, Ritz's infusion records make two episodes beyond grey backed by physical evidence. They can be explained, as can Mo's missed tests, and as can all evidence of doping. But they aren't in the grey area.

Any fleeting romantic ideas I may have held about pro distance runners training like animals have been replaced by images of secret flights to Houston to guzzle sugary drinks with needles attached to their arms.

The Nike Androgen Project wrote:

With Rupp's testosterone lab chart, Ritz's infusion records make two episodes beyond grey backed by physical evidence. They can be explained, as can Mo's missed tests, and as can all evidence of doping. But they aren't in the grey area.

Indeed. Nobody can claim anymore that Salazar would never break WADA rules (only custom rules, and prescription rules, and USATF rules). Now the line of defense is that others are doping more, so NOP is fine.

If USADA will be able to prove testo doping (see this report, see NY Times, and see Rupp's suspicious test results in early 2016 etc.), then the fans here will claim that others do the same, so NOP is fine.

The resemblance with Armstrong is canny, though this here moves faster (e.g. Rupp is still active; USADA waited in Armstrong's case until way after his retirement).

Mr. Obvious wrote:

LetsRun.com wrote:

Ritz felt like Salazar was having him be on the thyroid for performance, particularly before the 2012 Trials, which contradicts how Salazar said in his Open Letter after the ProPublica report where Salazar wrote, "Galen takes his thyroid medication so that his body can function normally – not for any competitive advantage."

1. Thyroid isn't bannned, so it is irrelevant to any sort of doping violation.

Obvious, Obvious. They can change the rules at any time if they deem an unfair advantage is being had.

Athlete Support Personnel wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

No they don't. You are making that up.

You are the one making things up. Read about "Athlete Support Personnel" in the WADA Code. Dr Brown is considered as an "Athlete Support Personnel".

Nothing in the WADA code requires athletes to share medical information when they compete in sanctioned events. Nothing. Stop making things up.

sound and fury, signifying . . wrote:

A couple hundred pages of innuendo

A chickensh*t performance by USADA

Go away Lindsey. You lost.

Stolen document. wrote:

habs wrote:

For those annoyed by the Google Drive viewer, I uploaded a real (semi-searchable) PDF to my website here:

http://habs.sdf.org/USADA%20Report%20On%20Alberto%20Salazar%20And%20NOP.pdf

Here is a plain text transcript of the entire report:

http://habs.sdf.org/USADA%20Report%20On%20Alberto%20Salazar%20And%20NOP.txt

Hope that helps everyone. I have a few of my own thoughts about this which I plan on publishing soon.

Thanks boss, the lawyers will thank you for publishing stolen works.

Did you convert that w a fully licensed copy of Adobes software?

You Nike tools are getting desperate aren't you? Fook off.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

1. Thyroid isn't bannned, so it is irrelevant to any sort of doping violation.

Obvious, Obvious. They can change the rules at any time if they deem an unfair advantage is being had.

They can't change the rules at any time. They could add thyroid to the banned list for 2018 if they chose. However WDA has considereed adding thyroid medication to the banned list on multiple occasions, most recently in 2015 in response to a request from UKAD. WADA does not consider thyroid a performance enhancing medication. You can think they are wrong, you can think it is unsporting. However, regardless of how you feel about it, the WADA stance on thyroid medication is unambiguous.

rojo wrote:

Most of the group isn't cooperating fully in the investigation. If you've got nothing to hide, why not let them have full access?

Because it's none of their business. The criteria to compete is to take drug tests, not turn over full medical records.

To give you something more concrete, there are many things that might be embarrassing in one's medical records. Maybe someone has an STD. Maybe someone is being treated for having an eating disorder. Maybe an athlete and their spouse have fertility difficulties.

It's entirely reasonable to not give your medical records to anyone. I certainly would not, and it has nothing to do with doping.

$$ made them do it wrote:

nothing here wrote:

other than the excessive infusion, is there any violation?

not that i see.

l-carnitine and vitamin d are like water: they are legal. taking more doesn't make you a doper. in fact, athletes have special fluid mixes to enhance performance. why not take more l-carnitine if you think it will help you? it's a legal substance, like kale.

why not try to increase levels of testosterone through legal means. you'd be a fool not to.

This this this. It seems like everybody, both in and outside of this forum, are seriously grasping for straws trying to implicate NOP with doping. Definitely not a fan of Salazar, but the sensationalism by both LRC dwellers and the media on this "case" is seriously getting a little absurd.

^

Good jncd wrote:

rojo wrote:

Most of the group isn't cooperating fully in the investigation. If you've got nothing to hide, why not let them have full access?

Because it's none of their business. The criteria to compete is to take drug tests, not turn over full medical records.

To give you something more concrete, there are many things that might be embarrassing in one's medical records. Maybe someone has an STD. Maybe someone is being treated for having an eating disorder. Maybe an athlete and their spouse have fertility difficulties.

It's entirely reasonable to not give your medical records to anyone. I certainly would not, and it has nothing to do with doping.

I completely agree with you. This report is case and point. It was leaked to the public before it became official. Should athletes trust that their personal health information will be safe when clearly there is a risk it could be leaked to the public? I wouldn't. I would only give what is required.

I'm all for accountability and am fine with the USADA performing an investigation to uncover the truth, but I think it is pretty low to have someone leak out a draft like this. Some may say it is a random employee or anonymous source doing what is right, but to me it looks like someone at the USADA trying to control the public narrative. This makes the USADA look like the NFL in terms of credibility with their investigations. It makes me think, are they looking for the truth as an objective third party or are they going to massage the truth to fit their conclusions?

wrong there wrote:

cooperated? She lied and said she had never seen Dr. Brown. Then later, after USADA had evidence of her lying, admitted that she had seen him. She lied to investigators.

jewbacca wrote:

Oh you mean like Tara Welling? Sounds like she cooperated and they're dragging her through the mud. After reading this, if I were an elite athlete I'd refer all USADA queries to my lawyer.

... in the morning - it smells like victory!

All those athletes at some point answered questions under oath. Looks like some of them perjured themselves.

A lot of the information in the report is circumstantial. Some of it, significant parts of it, is backed by hard evidence.

People get convicted of murder purely on circumstantial evidence. All the time. Every day. Think about it.

USADA has more that is being held back for now.

Have a nice day!

We've read the 269 page report and have summarized 6 key takeaways from it.

They are as follows.

1) USADA presents strong evidence that all of the Nike Oregon Project runners that received L-carnitine injections from Dr. Brown – Dathan Ritzenhein, Galen Rupp, Tara Edrmann (now Welling), Lindsay Allen, Alvina Begay, and Dawn Grunnagle – committed anti-doping violations

2) Alberto Salazar misled athletes about his interactions with USADA (and the treatment they were receiving)

3) Alberto Salazar had no problem playing doctor and both he and Dr. Jeffrey Brown showed little regard for the health of NOP athletes

4) Athletes were diagnosed with hypothyroidism even if their thyroid levels were within normal ranges

5) Salazar was obsessed with trying to improve his athletes’ testosterone levels

6) Nike CEO Mark Parker was kept informed of Alberto Salazar’s L-carnitine discoveries

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/05/usada-appears-highly-likely-6-nop-athletes-including-galen-rupp-dathan-ritzenhein-violated-anti-doping-rules/

Flotrack got access to it and has posted it in its entirety.

Update: We've read the 269 page report and have summarized 6 key takeaways from it.

They are as follows.

1) USADA presents strong evidence that all of the Nike Oregon Project runners that received L-carnitine injections from Dr. Brown – Dathan Ritzenhein, Galen Rupp, Tara Edrmann (now Welling), Lindsay Allen, Alvina Begay, and Dawn Grunnagle – committed anti-doping violations

2) Alberto Salazar misled athletes about his interactions with USADA (and the treatment they were receiving)

3) Alberto Salazar had no problem playing doctor and both he and Dr. Jeffrey Brown showed little regard for the health of NOP athletes

4) Athletes were diagnosed with hypothyroidism even if their thyroid levels were within normal ranges

5) Salazar was obsessed with trying to improve his athletes’ testosterone levels

6) Nike CEO Mark Parker was kept informed of Alberto Salazar’s L-carnitine discoveries

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/05/usada-appears-highly-likely-6-nop-athletes-including-galen-rupp-dathan-ritzenhein-violated-anti-doping-rules/

Here is the report

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B12sfJ8SraVNTW9nU3puUklyRzQ/view

http://www.flotrack.org/article/56468-this-may-be-the-usada-report-on-alberto-salazar-and-the-nike-oregon-project#.WSRsBmgrLmE

spinoza wrote:

USADA cannot keep confidential documents they have been trusted with confidential. Their rank incompetence casts extreme doubt on any findings or opinions they have. No credibility. No expertise. Probably corrupt. No reasonable athlete would cooperate with the USADA in any way, shape, or form.

So by your logic, I hope you voted for Trump and never vote Democratic because Fancy Bears also hacked the DNC. Donald Trump is the president of the US because these guys are such good hackers.

Yes, i'm not a doctor. That's why I talked to a medical professional today and he laughed when I asked if it was possible it was under 50 ml.

He said to me,. "Do you have any concept of how little 50 ml is?" So I looked it up. It's 1.7 ounces. He's like, "Yep. Of course they had way more than that."

So you think it's possible to take 1/10th of a coke can and raise your Carinitine levels from 50 to 2000?

I don't . Maybe the guy I talked to is wrong but he works in the field and you and I dont and he said it was crazy.

Now you are in total la-la-land. Your first statement may have simply been because you are scientist but the second is foolish. They didn't violate the spirit of the law? They 100% Did.

The anti-doping rules whole spirit is simple. They want competition to be about who is the best naturally. They don't want people taking potentially dangerous things that give them an athletic advantage.

Taking such a huge amount of L-Carnitine in an untested manner in such a short period of time to suddenly take 2-3 minutes off your marathon time is 100% in violation of the spirit of the law as it's both dangerous and designed to give you a huge, unnatural advantage.

From the report. "Potential side effects noted in the product literature for Carnitor® injectable L-carnitine include injection site reactions, adverse gastrointestinal reactions and seizures...Even in 50 mL of infusion solution (which the records provided to USADA by Dr. Brown deny was given), 9.67 grams of L-carnitine would be at the highest concentration level commercially available and far above (about 25 times higher than) the concentration recommended for infusion in humans."

The spirit of the law was broken a long time ago by Salazar - whether it's a doping violation or not. He's doing what every doper does - looking for a chemical way to increase performance regardless of health costs.