We've closed this thread to new posts. Please discuss this topic in a new thread given the fact she just won the race outright in 2023. Does that mean that the 2022 cheating allegations definitely have no merit?
I like how you give yourself an upvote on your posts. Got to get rid of that 0.
I'm there only one posting logically and not erroneously assuming Ashley cheated with no evidence of cheating. If I wasn't posting in this thread, you all would be sharpening your pitchforks and salivating at the chances to harrass her based on your and Derek's ridiculous conspiracy theories.
I like how you give yourself an upvote on your posts. Got to get rid of that 0.
I'm there only one posting logically and not erroneously assuming Ashley cheated with no evidence of cheating. If I wasn't posting in this thread, you all would be sharpening your pitchforks and salivating at the chances to harrass her based on your and Derek's ridiculous conspiracy theories.
She is the one that has cheated on multiple occasions in the past. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
I like how you give yourself an upvote on your posts. Got to get rid of that 0.
I'm there only one posting logically and not erroneously assuming Ashley cheated with no evidence of cheating. If I wasn't posting in this thread, you all would be sharpening your pitchforks and salivating at the chances to harrass her based on your and Derek's ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Ashely...do you know any dentists in Genesee Co MI by any chance?
I'm there only one posting logically and not erroneously assuming Ashley cheated with no evidence of cheating. If I wasn't posting in this thread, you all would be sharpening your pitchforks and salivating at the chances to harrass her based on your and Derek's ridiculous conspiracy theories.
She is the one that has cheated on multiple occasions in the past. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
And another stooge arises that didn't read this thread. Do you even know what supplement contamination is that they filled occurred resulting in the reduced sanction? Do you even know you publicly posted that she mistakenly went off course at one half marathon? Do you even know she ran 2:40 at Olympic Trials? She runs much faster than you and have so for a long time at the real elite level.
Do a simple Google search and it will publicly show that Garmin Connect shows "Summary Data: Edited" for lots of simple innocuous things like changing the share permission on the activity or even having elevation corrections on:"
She is the one that has cheated on multiple occasions in the past. Once a cheater, always a cheater.
And another stooge arises that didn't read this thread. Do you even know what supplement contamination is that they filled occurred resulting in the reduced sanction? Do you even know you publicly posted that she mistakenly went off course at one half marathon? Do you even know she ran 2:40 at Olympic Trials? She runs much faster than you and have so for a long time at the real elite level.
Edit: Ashley ran 2:44:50 at the Olympic Trials. Do you also think she cheated at Olympic Trials with all the other national level elites?
If you go to the Garmin "heart rate" tracing from the end of the race (18.56 mile segment) set "pace" as an overlay. Change the bottom tab to "Over Distance." Now go look at the picture of the watch face, in the Marathon Investigation article. Notice the portion of the watch to the left and below where it shows "131." It appears to say "18.22." Now, go back and try to toggle back to 18.22 miles on the HR tracing. You'll notice it won't stay right on "18.22." It alternates between 18.21 and 18.23. Notice that 18.21 lists a HR of 130 at that moment. When you toggle over 18.23, it shows a HR of 132. Assuming the finish line shot was right at the moment between 18.21 and 18.23 miles, which would be the "18.22" on the watch, that would match up with a HR of 131. 131 is exactly what appears to show on the top of the watch.
Do a simple Google search and it will publicly show that Garmin Connect shows "Summary Data: Edited" for lots of simple innocuous things like changing the share permission on the activity or even having elevation corrections on:"
These links are two people asking questions about Garmin data showing as Edited.
Neither post was addressed.
The first post has one response -- telling OP they posted in the wrong place.
The second post has no response at all.
The posts are also "over 5 years ago" and "over 8 years ago".
If bugs were behind their issues, Garmin has had the better part of a decade to fix them.
This does not seem to be smoking gun evidence that recent Garmin logs showing "edited" are likely not edited.
Anything more recent and informative?
Damn, man. You really don't know anything about technology and have no business even pretending to be "analyzing" the data. You really show you are a newb and think all quirks in software get fixed.
I have followed her on Instagram for a while. No doubt some of these races she threw down impressive times and no way with the amount of people around could she be cutting the course especially the Olympic trials… but I will say about the “twin” she was wearing in her video a hoodie for part of it… that would cover up the hair. And obviously she had to change shoes several times that normal in those races but notice her “twin” did too on both of their instagrams… with the new watches out there and she has one one… and she knows she’s doing this race… a need to recharge it mid race seems VERY fishy and charge it for only 17 minutes when you have 4 hours left of racing. The edited data also looks suspect in the middle of this. And the being soo public to not have your Strava data for the race public… I’m not a Strava expert and I agree women should not have it just public at all times but I thought you can change the privacy for atleast this race to public. If it quacks like a duck…
If you go to the Garmin "heart rate" tracing from the end of the race (18.56 mile segment) set "pace" as an overlay. Change the bottom tab to "Over Distance." Now go look at the picture of the watch face, in the Marathon Investigation article. Notice the portion of the watch to the left and below where it shows "131." It appears to say "18.22." Now, go back and try to toggle back to 18.22 miles on the HR tracing. You'll notice it won't stay right on "18.22." It alternates between 18.21 and 18.23. Notice that 18.21 lists a HR of 130 at that moment. When you toggle over 18.23, it shows a HR of 132. Assuming the finish line shot was right at the moment between 18.21 and 18.23 miles, which would be the "18.22" on the watch, that would match up with a HR of 131. 131 is exactly what appears to show on the top of the watch.
Cue the conspiracy theorists and Derek to say she edited the data to match the photo.
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If you go to the Garmin "heart rate" tracing from the end of the race (18.56 mile segment) set "pace" as an overlay. Change the bottom tab to "Over Distance." Now go look at the picture of the watch face, in the Marathon Investigation article. Notice the portion of the watch to the left and below where it shows "131." It appears to say "18.22." Now, go back and try to toggle back to 18.22 miles on the HR tracing. You'll notice it won't stay right on "18.22." It alternates between 18.21 and 18.23. Notice that 18.21 lists a HR of 130 at that moment. When you toggle over 18.23, it shows a HR of 132. Assuming the finish line shot was right at the moment between 18.21 and 18.23 miles, which would be the "18.22" on the watch, that would match up with a HR of 131. 131 is exactly what appears to show on the top of the watch.
Cue the conspiracy theorists and Derek to say she edited the data to match the photo.
Have you nothing better to do? How much time have you spent here? Almost as if it is personal to you.
And another stooge arises that didn't read this thread. Do you even know what supplement contamination is that they filled occurred resulting in the reduced sanction? Do you even know you publicly posted that she mistakenly went off course at one half marathon? Do you even know she ran 2:40 at Olympic Trials? She runs much faster than you and have so for a long time at the real elite level.
Edit: Ashley ran 2:44:50 at the Olympic Trials. Do you also think she cheated at Olympic Trials with all the other national level elites?
Edit: you copied what a poster said pages ago. But you blew it. She ran 2:40:07 at the Trials. I too was there and have a finish line photo. She didn’t cheat there, 100 percent. You posted her qualifying time. Fail buddy
Damn, man. You really don't know anything about technology and have no business even pretending to be "analyzing" the data. You really show you are a newb and think all quirks in software get fixed.
Oh, was my math wrong, or a statement factually incorrect, or logical inference flawed?
If so, please post those corrections.
Back to the question regarding Garmin data possibly showing as "Edited" when it was not...
I will agree with you on that thought since American is the land of Lance Armstrong, Barry Bonds, Marion Jones, etc... who would sell their souls to the devil.
But in the case of Ashley Paulson it was ruled accidental supplement contamination but only because of the strict liability rule that she received any sanction at all.
And then in this case of Badwater, there is zero evidence I've seen thus far from anyone of her cheating. I'm all for logic and truth, I do not put effort into threads full of supposed assumptions and conspiracies, especially if the likes of Derek are used as a means to harrass the subject into giving up.
Exactly I think she handed it off to “twin” possibly and maybe use the charging in van as an excuse during the hand off while she rested in van before going back out at some point. And for that last splits I’m guess it was more than 17 min rest.
