Jakob Ingebrigtsen takes down WR holder Samuel Tefera (and his big brother) in battle of teenage stars in Dusseldorf 1500

Coevett wrote:

exrunner wrote:

So let me clarify:

You are now insinuating that your opinion that Tefera is on EPO actually has nothing to do with his performance a few days ago? Jakob can beat him and Tefera can only keep up BECAUSE he is on EPO? So what you are saying is that Africans can only keep up with White runners if they take drugs, because it is assumed that the White runners are superior to the Africans by default?

You have a White runner who beat an African in a race, and your thought process is that the only reasonable conclusion is that the African must have been doping to have even a CHANCE of matching the White guy?

VERY interesting.

It's you whose obsessed with race, mainly to apologize for a huge and obvious doping problem in Africa (and recognized by the IAAF and the entire world outside this forum).

What the hell is your logic (that Rojo is so impressed by)? If a suspect athlete loses then it means that the guy who beats him must either be dirty too or both must be clean?

So Kyle Langford lost to Bett by 1/100th of a second in 2017. Does that mean we can assume Kyle is clean, but if he ran 2/100ths of a second faster and beat Bett then we'd have to assume he's dirty too?

Why don't you petition the IAAF to introduce a rule that any athlete beating another athlete who subsequently fails a doping test must be assumed to be a doper too and suspended as well? Or maybe only if it's a white runner beating a doped up African guy, because we know it's impossible for white people to run fast, and therefore Jakob must be dirty (and anyone who says differently is racist like Coevett).

Tefera is suspicious because he comes from a corrupt Third World country with no WADA lab, apparently no testing, and EPO on sale in every pharmacy. He's suspicious because of his inconsistent performances, such as his ability to win world senior championships and break world records indoors in the winter and fail to even medal in Junior championships in the summer. He's suspicious because he looks at least 25 and he's competing as a teenage junior. He's suspicious because he broke a 22 year old world record without apparently even needing to breath at the end or even change his facial expression.

Coevett wrote:

exrunner wrote:

So let me clarify:

You are now insinuating that your opinion that Tefera is on EPO actually has nothing to do with his performance a few days ago? Jakob can beat him and Tefera can only keep up BECAUSE he is on EPO? So what you are saying is that Africans can only keep up with White runners if they take drugs, because it is assumed that the White runners are superior to the Africans by default?

You have a White runner who beat an African in a race, and your thought process is that the only reasonable conclusion is that the African must have been doping to have even a CHANCE of matching the White guy?

VERY interesting.

It's you whose obsessed with race, mainly to apologize for a huge and obvious doping problem in Africa (and recognized by the IAAF and the entire world outside this forum).

What the hell is your logic (that Rojo is so impressed by)? If a suspect athlete loses then it means that the guy who beats him must either be dirty too or both must be clean?

So Kyle Langford lost to Bett by 1/100th of a second in 2017. Does that mean we can assume Kyle is clean, but if he ran 2/100ths of a second faster and beat Bett then we'd have to assume he's dirty too?

Why don't you petition the IAAF to introduce a rule that any athlete beating another athlete who subsequently fails a doping test must be assumed to be a doper too and suspended as well? Or maybe only if it's a white runner beating a doped up African guy, because we know it's impossible for white people to run fast, and therefore Jakob must be dirty (and anyone who says differently is racist like Coevett).

Tefera is suspicious because he comes from a corrupt Third World country with no WADA lab, apparently no testing, and EPO on sale in every pharmacy. He's suspicious because of his inconsistent performances, such as his ability to win world senior championships and break world records indoors in the winter and fail to even medal in Junior championships in the summer. He's suspicious because he looks at least 25 and he's competing as a teenage junior. He's suspicious because he broke a 22 year old world record without apparently even needing to breath at the end or even change his facial expression.

Phantasy Star wrote:

exrunner wrote:

So let me clarify:

You are now insinuating that your opinion that Tefera is on EPO actually has nothing to do with his performance a few days ago? Jakob can beat him and Tefera can only keep up BECAUSE he is on EPO? So what you are saying is that Africans can only keep up with White runners if they take drugs, because it is assumed that the White runners are superior to the Africans by default?

You have a White runner who beat an African in a race, and your thought process is that the only reasonable conclusion is that the African must have been doping to have even a CHANCE of matching the White guy?

VERY interesting.

Tefera is probably capable of a 3:41 clean. Aged 25 years or so.

Jakob is simply a better athlete.

The gap becomes closed when EPO is introduced into the mix.