Jakob 3:30!!

mooonshot wrote:

you guys are up to date on the science, right? Hematocrit of 53 means nothing. Geb had a HCT of 42-44 and still ran world class times.

Well good for him. ? Btw, where did you get his #'s from (verified or someone's estimation?)...do you have link Joe?

douglas burke wrote:

Kenya Is THEE Dominant Nation in the Middle-long Distance, What has Norway Done in Distance running besides Waitz and Kristiansen and 800 runner Rodal and now the Ingebrightsens? I mean HIGH WORLD CLASS? they have had a few other good runners, Svenoy 8:12 steepler, Bakken 13:06 for 5000, Douglas-1:43.6 for 800 runner

as For Kipchoge if he was 6 years older than when he was 18, that means HE HAS TO BE 6 years older than he claims to be now, so he is what 39- 40 running 2:01 Marathons

Perhaps age cheating itself plays a large part in Kenya and East Africa's domination. Non-African juniors are denied the chance of vital major championship experience (and wins) in their teens by having to compete against pumped up twenty year olds. Not to mention it must be demoralizing as hell.

Norway has a great middle-and long distance resume for a country of 5 million (as compared to Kenya's 70+ million).

Especially when you consider that 90+% of their high vo2 max athletes go into cross country skiing (which they dominate like Kenya dominates long distance running), whereas 100% of Kenya's athletes go into distance running.

Absolute nonsense. The biggest sport, by far, in Kenya is soccer. Running is a sport practised by a number of tribes on the Kenyan highland.

Coevett wrote:

Perhaps age cheating itself plays a large part in Kenya and East Africa's domination. Non-African juniors are denied the chance of vital major championship experience (and wins) in their teens by having to compete against pumped up twenty year olds. Not to mention it must be demoralizing as hell.

That might be the most snowflake excuse/whine I've ever read on this site.

LOL, well no more snowflake excuses needed when Europe has two of the greatest (genuine and clean) teen talents in history (Jakob and Max) and Kenyans are getting busted like clockwork, as well as finally being called out over the rampant age cheating.

well,, wrote:

Absolute nonsense. The biggest sport, by far, in Kenya is soccer. Running is a sport practised by a number of tribes on the Kenyan highland.

You have any actual statistics to demonstrate that?

Every Kenyan schoolboy might dream of being the next Lionel Messi, but the fact is the odds of that happening are millions to one, whereas every Kenyan schoolboy and his teacher knows the odds of making a decent living from running are quite good, especially with a bit of Italian assistance.

Kenyan soccer matches draw pitiful attendances. The attendance at the Junior championships in Kenya last year set a new world record.

Some of you have an almost fanatical need to believe in genetic supremacy of black men. Being called a racist by you guys is similar to an average Joe being called a fat sexual predator by Harvey Weinstein.

douglas burke wrote:

Kenya Is THEE Dominant Nation in the Middle-long Distance, What has Norway Done in Distance running besides Waitz and Kristiansen and 800 runner Rodal and now the Ingebrightsens? I mean HIGH WORLD CLASS?

Sondre Nordstad Moen

Coevett wrote:

Some of you have an almost fanatical need to believe in genetic supremacy of black men.

Oh my......this coming from one who somehow believes that if one is white one does not cheat. It is comical how you embody the modern racist with seemingly no awareness of it.

Coevett wrote:

Norway has a great middle-and long distance resume for a country of 5 million (as compared to Kenya's 70+ million).

Norway: 5.4 million, Kenya: 51.2 million.

it was discussed several times with Coevette

Semiler wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

Kenya Is THEE Dominant Nation in the Middle-long Distance, What has Norway Done in Distance running besides Waitz and Kristiansen and 800 runner Rodal and now the Ingebrightsens? I mean HIGH WORLD CLASS?

Sondre Nordstad Moen

Good Call, I know him, but was not thinking, Thank You 59:48 and 2:05.48 is indeed World Class

new nostradamus wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Norway has a great middle-and long distance resume for a country of 5 million (as compared to Kenya's 70+ million).

Norway: 5.4 million, Kenya: 51.2 million.

it was discussed several times with Coevette

That's the official population figures, which are likely to be highly accurate for Norway, and highly inaccurate (under representing) for Kenya.

Interestingly, Renato basically acknowledged age cheating with one exception, Bekele, he is a few months younger than his listed age. He was something like 15 years old and some change and they didn't grant visas back then to any one under 16, so he exaggerated his age. The irony. It's the Robertsons who claim Kipchoge is 40, though they did live with him.

Coevett wrote:

new nostradamus wrote:

Norway: 5.4 million, Kenya: 51.2 million.

it was discussed several times with Coevette

That's the official population figures, which are likely to be highly accurate for Norway, and highly inaccurate (under representing) for Kenya.

Yeah, and therefor you put 70+ directly out oft your a...

douglas burke wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

He ran much of the race in lane two, where's Ventolin go time us the DVAT.

Hopefully he goes for a fast time in Monaco next week, The European Record for 1500 is 3:28.81 (Farah) and the WORLD Junior Record as well (Kwemoi), I heard that Lagat's 3:27.40 is the American Record (Decided a couple of months ago) and that would be the fastest time by a Non African, so 3:27.39 or better would be the new non African Record even Though Lagat ran 3:26.34 when he was a Kenyan.

Also maybe 2 Ingebrightsens go sub 3:30 next week?

Wow. Citizenship takes the ancestry right out a of a person. Lagat has been de-Africanized?

new nostradamus wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Norway has a great middle-and long distance resume for a country of 5 million (as compared to Kenya's 70+ million).

Norway: 5.4 million, Kenya: 51.2 million.

it was discussed several times with Coevette

There's always an extra 20 million in Kenya who are not yet registered births until they see their "junior" potential first.

He should move to the steeple. Can you imagine?

Coevett wrote:

well,, wrote:

Absolute nonsense. The biggest sport, by far, in Kenya is soccer. Running is a sport practised by a number of tribes on the Kenyan highland.

You have any actual statistics to demonstrate that?

Every Kenyan schoolboy might dream of being the next Lionel Messi, but the fact is the odds of that happening are millions to one, whereas every Kenyan schoolboy and his teacher knows the odds of making a decent living from running are quite good, especially with a bit of Italian assistance.

Kenyan soccer matches draw pitiful attendances. The attendance at the Junior championships in Kenya last year set a new world record.

Some of you have an almost fanatical need to believe in genetic supremacy of black men. Being called a racist by you guys is similar to an average Joe being called a fat sexual predator by Harvey Weinstein.

You can become a soccer pro in a country like Denmark and make more money than a guy like Farah. The market for soccer professionals in the world is endless. You don´t have to be Messi to make millions every year.

New nostradamus wrote:

Coevett wrote:

That's the official population figures, which are likely to be highly accurate for Norway, and highly inaccurate (under representing) for Kenya.

Yeah, and therefor you put 70+ directly out oft your a...

Not only this but consider that Kenya has 3,000,000 hard at work to be a runner, while Norway has aprox 2,000 hard at work to be a runner. It's no surprise when all of a sudden you're going to have a phenom like Jakob pop up when you have such low numbers of participants.

SDSU-

You have anger issues. This board should not get you so worked up. I am willing to pay your copay for a psychologist.