OH BABY WHAT A MEET. Official 2019 Shanghai DL Discussion Thread

I think she is in a good spot and will be ready to really rock and roll later in the season. Before posting my first post, I hadn’t read the full preview to see that she already has a 54.lo hurdle this year. That, paired with today, seems to indicate she is doing pretty well. On its own, I might not have thought that about today.

rojo wrote:

Kejelcha's confidence is growing, "I am amazed by my performance today. I felt very relaxed for all of the race and my power is so much better at the end of the race. I am very confident now."

Here's my hypothetical. If Kejelcha becomes a world beater under Salazar does that make you more likely to believe that Farah was totally on the up and aup under Al Sal? I was thinking one coudl argue, "Wow there really is something to his training," but ten I realized one could also could say that about any sort of other things they are doing.

To me , I guess it does.

I think the key really is mental. He has a plan. You can tell him, "Hey we're working on your speed." Etc.

I don't think AlSal ever doped Farah in a meaningful way. The sketchiest allegations re: AlSal have all been in relation to Galen, who was clearly given special treatment among the NOP athletes (including the more successful ones like Farah and Centro). Go back and read Josh Rohatinsky's comments on the ProPublica report for more insight on this.

The biggest issue with Farah is his relationship with Jama "Hotel Room Full of EPO" Aden, which is undeniable:

lnol at all the fools who expected that 5000 to smoke just because everyone fast was in it. They gotta all be in shape first.

Samba could have ran that 400h in 46.50 if he'd been trying.

Bad Wigins wrote:

lnol at all the fools who expected that 5000 to smoke just because everyone fast was in it. They gotta all be in shape first.

Samba could have ran that 400h in 46.50 if he'd been trying.

1) I liked the field being a little tactical as that's what you'll get a worlds. If anything worlds will be slower.

2) Samba was trying. He ran all the way through the line. Watch the replay. I thought he let up but rewatched it.

In the women's200, the last lap leader to leader was 61.47 and I had the final200 in 29.9.

I've been posting under a registered name but am hiding it here. Anyone think Hobbs could be XY?

rojo wrote:

Kejelcha's confidence is growing, "I am amazed by my performance today. I felt very relaxed for all of the race and my power is so much better at the end of the race. I am very confident now."

Here's my hypothetical. If Kejelcha becomes a world beater under Salazar does that make you more likely to believe that Farah was totally on the up and aup under Al Sal? I was thinking one coudl argue, "Wow there really is something to his training," but ten I realized one could also could say that about any sort of other things they are doing.

To me , I guess it does.

I think the key really is mental. He has a plan. You can tell him, "Hey we're working on your speed." Etc.

Look at what he did with Rupp and Centro. Is it really that hard to believe he could do it with athletes the likes of Farah, Hassan and Kejelcha? Unless you want to think it’s the largest doping cover up in history, the NOP program is obviously producing great results.

American Alexa Efraimson, whos PR of 4:03.39 dates to 2015 and came in after a win in Drake, came close to to her PB with a 4:04.53. Her splits were 66.4, 65.3 (2:11.7), 65.0 (3:16.7) and 47,7. Her last 400 was a 64.5.

The best way to run a1 500 is for the first lap to be slightlly faster so maybe she can PR.

100 fan wrote:

I've been posting under a registered name but am hiding it here. Anyone think Hobbs could be XY?

No.

Next question.

So we go 1-2-3 in the DL 400 and yet we lost the 4 x 400 last week at World Relays? Who did we lose to again?

definitely a good run by efraimson, maybe this is the year she can PR and breakout of that 5-8 mass she has been stuck in at USAs.

rojo wrote:

Kejelcha's confidence is growing, "I am amazed by my performance today. I felt very relaxed for all of the race and my power is so much better at the end of the race. I am very confident now."

Here's my hypothetical. If Kejelcha becomes a world beater under Salazar does that make you more likely to believe that Farah was totally on the up and aup under Al Sal? I was thinking one coudl argue, "Wow there really is something to his training," but ten I realized one could also could say that about any sort of other things they are doing.

To me , I guess it does.

I think the key really is mental. He has a plan. You can tell him, "Hey we're working on your speed." Etc.

I can see that argument. It's also quite possible Kejelcha was going to become a world beater regardless - you guys knew he was very talented from a young age and he had flashes of brilliance.

Your 2nd point I definitely agree with as a coach. Farah, Rupp, Kejelcha - all seem to have a strong belief in what they're doing with Salazar, and that mentality leads you to truly believe you're doing training that specifically will help you kick faster, etc. The psychological benefit is on par of importance with doing the actual training. Magness had a good article on an athletes perception and how it relates to how you feel during and after a race - he talks about a workout right before an important race and making sure the athlete does something they can do fairly easily. Because it goes smoothly, the athlete feels confident and their perception is that they are in great shape! He did a better job explaining it, but it seems logical!

also hasnt been mentioned, but chase Ealey beating gong lijiao on her home turf is a stunner.

Lyles over Coleman, both at 9.86. Lyles was looking over at Coleman as he barely passed him in the last 5m. Lyles is going to be a stud at 200m this year. That was a 100m PB with a terrible start. Coleman had the best start of the field

rojo wrote:

So we go 1-2-3 in the DL 400 and yet we lost the 4 x 400 last week at World Relays? Who did we lose to again?

You really are clueless

[quote]rojo wrote:

What the hell happened to the Americans. CHelimoe 1313 and it look like Mead dropped out before 1k? How do you fly all the way to China and drop out before 1k. I hope everything is ok as you've gotta be really sick or injured to drop out before 1k.

Did anyone see Mead step off the track? Maybe I'll go rewind it.

1. They said someone fell, but never heard who. Maybe Mead?

2. Mead was 16th in 13:23. If that’s dropping out I would love to drop out sometime in 13:23. :-) Good early season time. If he fell, amazing early season time! But guessing it was someone else.

Carl Lewis 2.0!

What a race. Simbine looked great throughout, maybe a bit tight at the end as he tried to keep pace with Lyles.

Su did only what he came here to do, run that 10.05 qualifier. Maybe the smartest one of the bunch, along with Prescod.

Prescod huge opener, but he still has no transition. He needs a real coach—like CL he has this one glaring weakness that hasn’t seemed to have gotten any better. He should be up there in 9.8-mid.

CC, same as always, relying on his first half and then hanging on. Got nipped this time by a better, faster, more confident sprinter. IMO he will get faster this season as his fitness improves, based on last season...also IMO he will continue to sustain injury with that overpowered eggbeater style.

Lyles! Lyles! Shades of Gatlin 2015, opening in a fast PB. Absolutely beautiful maintenance, just like Lewis. Like somebody said, his 200 is going to be nuts this year. Good form, too, hopefully he can stay healthy.

Lyles will need to go on anchor leg just like Lewis, his finishing speed will be just too much to handle going into an exchange—plus with all anchors having no blocks and having to accelerate more upright, Lyles will have no relative weakness. Just like Lewis, he will run down other anchors if he needs to. Amazing-looking anchor legs coming.

Would be really nice to see splits from this race.

After all the fanboy hoopla with Benjamin, he's a dud. The doped up Samba destroyed him and will likely be a consistent low 47s all year.

Looks like Chelimo is done. Don't think he's even top 5 in the US now.

Great meet overall, I was a bit disappointed with the no shows with Gardiner, Bloomfield, and Manyonga. I think that the mens 400 shows why Kerley thrives at the DL level, He won 2 of the meets last year and only ran 44.3 last year. I liked the womans race though it seemed that Sydney was waiting for Wimbley and Naser to make their moves before she responded. I was not surprised about the 5k, its early season and we only had one race last year where 13 minutes got broken. The 400mh went as expected with a meet record and Samba with the win. It looks like Rai still has some work to do since like in the 400 earlier this season he tailed off the last 100m but I think this might be his third ever sub 48 run. Sifan Hassen did not look good in the 1500, while there were 6 women who were between 4:01 and 4:02, her race did not loo that impressive and might be the result of training for longer distances. The mens 100m was amazing, I thought that Coleman had the race in his hands coming in but it seems like Noah Lyles fine tuning with his early races helped him prepare for it. Now I'm more eager than ever to see the Norman vs Lyles match up. We will get some insight into what Norman is capable of tomorrow when he runs at Osaka.